: Extended Cab Shortbed Trucks, Is It More Dangerous To Tow With Them?
getpower 04-24-2007, 12:06 AM What I mean by the question is that if you have a big toy hauler, can the extended cab, shortbed configuration tow it SAFELY? We all know that it can tow it, but I'm talking more about the ability to stop the trailer in an emergency situation. BTW, I'm talking about a 34' Weekend Warrior or something like that.
Reineke 04-24-2007, 12:55 AM The trailer should have brakes and if you have a good quality brake controller and set up properly, why should an extended cab have anything to do with it?
dogger 04-24-2007, 01:05 AM Do not see why you would have a problem. I would use a WD hitch
Reineke 04-24-2007, 01:08 AM Do not see why you would have a problem. I would use a WD hitch
:exactly: And the stabilizer bar couldn't hurt either
haulin-rv 04-24-2007, 07:08 AM The shorter trucks will be less stable in the wind, the longer trailer will also push you around more. An ec/sb truck is not the ideal truck to tow a 34ft trailer. I tried a quad cab/sb and the difference was unreal, for me a crew dually is the only way to go.
getpower 04-24-2007, 08:12 PM That wind thing was what I was thinking about. That can't be safe at all.
So, how long would you go for a bumper-pull trailer before you aren't safe anymore-personal opinions.
OldSoldier 04-24-2007, 08:31 PM The shorter trucks will be less stable in the wind, the longer trailer will also push you around more. An ec/sb truck is not the ideal truck to tow a 34ft trailer. I tried a quad cab/sb and the difference was unreal, for me a crew dually is the only way to go.
Agree, the longer the wheel base, the more stable the truck. Also, I would guess a loaded trailer that long will have a pin weight that will go way over the cargo capacity of a 3/4 ton truck.
btfarm 04-24-2007, 08:45 PM I don't think I'd want to go over about 22' with mine. I've pulled that much enclosed with a good load of furniture (around 10k) in windy conditions and it was pretty stable but it had me a bit nervous.
haulin-rv 04-24-2007, 08:56 PM That wind thing was what I was thinking about. That can't be safe at all.
So, how long would you go for a bumper-pull trailer before you aren't safe anymore-personal opinions.
If I had you truck I would be looking at no more than 30ft or less and it would be a fifth wheel (5ers are much more stable and less affected by wind)w/ with the cropped front corners. I would install a pull-rite slider 5th wheel hitch and run an extended pin box on the trailer. Also I would looking at the "light" lines of trailers, not a 15k toy hauler. With that set-up you should be in the comfort zone, its no fun towing 500 white knuckled and uncomfortable with your rig!
Farmer Dave 04-24-2007, 09:04 PM I've pulled a 25ft travel trailer before for a freind with no load leveling hitch and that thing scared me. Now my freind got a half ton ford with a load levelling hitch and he pulls that trailer all over the place. He says it lacks power but does a great job of handling it. I would go with a fifth wheel if you havn't bought the trailer yet, the floor plans are generally alot better and they tow sweet. Once you go to 5th wheel you won't go back. Just my $.02
Farmer Dave 04-24-2007, 09:06 PM If I had you truck I would be looking at no more than 30ft or less and it would be a fifth wheel (5ers are much more stable and less affected by wind)w/ with the cropped front corners. I would install a pull-rite slider 5th wheel hitch and run an extended pin box on the trailer. Also I would looking at the "light" lines of trailers, not a 15k toy hauler. With that set-up you should be in the comfort zone, its no fun towing 500 white knuckled and uncomfortable with your rig!
:exactly:
gmcya 04-25-2007, 10:18 AM I agree with getting a lighter unit but with a good weight distrubution and sway bar setup correctly with a good brake controller I have no problem towing my 37' prowler except for the crappy GM mirrors.
Don't go cheap on the brake controller, the more expensive units are worth every nickel!! Been there...
txdutt 04-25-2007, 08:15 PM My Eagle is almost 35' total length & I have regular WD hitch w/1k LB bars & a single friction control--no issues at all with it!!
thejdman04 04-25-2007, 09:09 PM I agree, it should be ok if the brakes on the trailer work, but only takes one ground problem and you have no trailer brakes.
haulin-rv 04-26-2007, 05:02 AM My Eagle is almost 35' total length & I have regular WD hitch w/1k LB bars & a single friction control--no issues at all with it!!
There is a big difference between your trailer and a loaded toy hauler, plus Jayco's are some of the best towing trailers out there (thats all I haul now).
boondokr 04-26-2007, 04:32 PM I don't understand the problem. An ECSB has a longer wheelbase than a standard cab longbed.
CODMAX 04-30-2007, 09:44 PM I've pulled a 34 ft'r many thousands of miles and in some high wind situations with NO problems. It feels very secure. I am about 200 pounds over on the pin weight when fully loaded. If I carry a little extra water in the rear fresh water tank, I come pretty close to being within pin weight max.
I specifically went from a long bed EC because I got tired of the long turning radius. I do have to watch for interference with the rear window and have a slider which I have NEVER used just in case I need to get closer to the 90 degree turn. As is, I get about 70 degrees. Guess I should add that this is about the only thing the truck is used for.
DURAMAX3500 04-30-2007, 11:21 PM The shorter trucks will be less stable in the wind, the longer trailer will also push you around more. An ec/sb truck is not the ideal truck to tow a 34ft trailer. I tried a quad cab/sb and the difference was unreal, for me a crew dually is the only way to go.
:exactly: same here
moosecountry 05-02-2007, 10:57 PM I agree, it should be ok if the brakes on the trailer work, but only takes one ground problem and you have no trailer brakes.
I lost the brakes once on my 35' enlosed gooseneck (about 12-15K loaded for work). The truck stopped it I had some advance warning with the Prodigy lights so I planned ahead. I drove it home and fixed it there. I wouldn't recommend it on a daily basis, but these trucks can stop a lot of weight. Oh and mine is a shortbed 2500HD. I will tell you that the grade breaking helps out a TON.
Tim
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