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: Is Heath a Vendor on this site?


Dieseldad97
04-20-2007, 06:59 PM
I didn't see the name on the vendor list. With as many people talking about the Heath TM they use on their trucks, I thought I'd order one myself. I figured it would be great buying from a supportive vendor. I just love this site, and it would be great to "give back" in some small way. :)

Dieseldad97
04-21-2007, 02:27 AM
Any other vendors that have a TM??

schulte
04-21-2007, 03:05 AM
I've never heard of anything besides the heath TM... I know of a few sites that aren't vendors, but I don't know of anyone on here who carries them.

ratlover
04-26-2007, 04:13 PM
Have you tried kennedy? He sells 6.5 stuff :)

Goldsburg
04-26-2007, 05:47 PM
Have you tried kennedy? He sells 6.5 stuff :)

Kennedy's position in the past has not been very favorable of the mechanical wastegate controller. He position is that he can program any boost you want into his chip (or reflash)...:rolleyes:

With that being said, I made my own mech. wastegate controller (no chip needed)...

Regards,

minisub
04-26-2007, 09:08 PM
Kennedy's position in the past has not been very favorable of the mechanical wastegate controller. He position is that he can program any boost you want into his chip (or reflash)...:rolleyes:


And he can.....;) :D

Not to take away from the TM, but I have no problem with my computer controlled, vacuum activated, wastegate with my KD chip.

I see both side of this debate, for me on the Tahoe, one less thing was well, one less thing....

Now, since I have my EGR defeated, if my vacuum pump ever takes a dump, I would look at things a bit differently...

JMJNet
04-26-2007, 10:36 PM
I think Kennedy sells it last time I checked his website.

Dieseldad97
04-26-2007, 10:49 PM
I guess the only good reason for going with the Heath TM would be the fact that I really don't want to run with guages. I understand from others on this site, that with his spring rate set properly, no boost guage is needed.

I know I can build one, but then I have to install the guage package.

jifaire
04-27-2007, 01:12 AM
To answer your question, Bill Heath is not a vendor on this site.

I know what you're saying, though... not having gauges is why I bought mine from Bill rather than building my own. Follow the directions, and you won't overboost things.

He is, however, a good guy. Tell him you're Canadian, explain the 'brokerage fees' problem, and ask him to send it up USPS. It'll save you some bucks.

LanduytG
04-27-2007, 05:27 AM
Whats this about gauges? Why do you need one if computer controlled. I've had my 95 since new and I have had the waste gate controlled both ways and I think the electronic is far more reliable and gives more consistent pressures.

Greg

Turbine Doc
04-27-2007, 10:16 AM
Gauges for home built TM are recommended Greg as with home built there is no known limiting factor to spring tension applied vs boost output (IMO not good to go running around "boost blind" with home made stuff), Heath TM has a established spring rate/length vs boost, as does a Kennedy fooler set & forget is acceptable for no gauge operation, (pains me to say that I like gauges)

For rest of audience:

IMO gauges are a diagnostic must, "coolness factor" aside; quickest way to know you are having problems is gauges, as many as one can afford, but then I'm data anal (some say just anal, but that's okay) I come from a background where health monitoring gauges are only way to operate. Turbines/jets/ship propulsion trains/poergen etc. have low tolerance for unattended little things, they rapidly become big ones. Boost & EGT would be/is my minimum preference.

Okay; If ones vac pump is working no need to swap to a TM as certain engine configs/ambient conditions and no reflash you may need to run both to keep from coding anyway (S truck pay attn) so advantage here leans toward fooling.

If vac pump/system is dead and you aren't S truck needing vac to control EGR, TM is way to go IMO for low cost solution, one not wanting to spend $$$ on another vac pump, or bad solenoid.

That said a electronic fooler is more readily tweaked for changing conditions like elevation and works with baro input to PCM for exisiting ambient condition influence on boost production.

TM is mechanical always at last setting & independent of what PCM wants for boost control.

Aadvantage one over other is subjective, reflash eliminates need for fooling or TM.

Kennedy's reflash requires no fooling unless vac system is down and no vac available to make OEM WG circuit work.

Heath prefers TM with his reflash but not required, but TM also eliminates failed WG solenoid or vac pump from ever impacting a trip.

This is difference as best I know/can explain decision which is best is now incumbent on you and one you choose, spend some time with vendor of choice on phone/email & make selection on your understanding of the way their stuff works.

Boost augment via fooling, or TM is a good relatively low $$$ way to get more from the 6.5, build your own of either (with gauges IMO) is lowest cost way to do it, if you gave access to a scan tool or a diagnostic vac/press gauge you can temporary run with these and set safe boost levels, and then I'd sort of feel comfy with running without gauges, but to each his own to gauge or not.

heathdiesel1
05-03-2007, 12:58 PM
To answer the initial question, yes we are a vendor on the site now and if anyone has any further questions please feel free to give us a call. We are in the shop monday - friday 8am to 5pm pacific.

Goldsburg
05-03-2007, 01:41 PM
Whats this about gauges? Why do you need one if computer controlled. I've had my 95 since new and I have had the waste gate controlled both ways and I think the electronic is far more reliable and gives more consistent pressures.

Greg

I am going to have to disagree with you there. I have owned (3) 6.5TD's and none of them had a working vaccum system when I bought them. I should further clarify by saying that (1) of the trucks was a 92 model and never had a vaccum W/G system anyway. When the other truck(s) arrived home, the vaccuum pump were summarily removed and thrown away.

As far as more consistent pressure, I will give you that. The vaccum system is computer controlled and therefore can adjust boost output to a consistent level based on several different inputs to the ECM.

Regards,

CanadianRigger
05-03-2007, 02:09 PM
The electronic is more reliable, but the WG selonoids are known to fail and that pump just wont last forever either, i'm sure i have replaced at least one pump on every vehicle at least once before i smartened up and did away with it.