Well i odered mine it should be here in a hour or so..
Ill let everyone know how they work..

Well just took it for a test drive!!!
Let me just say WOW..
It is very fast.. the defuels are a little ruff but other then that its sweet..

Which version did you get and on what truck are you running it on, you have nothing in your signature. What levels did you see defuel problems?

They're finally selling it, cool, keep us updated.

They're finally selling it, cool, keep us updated.

I honestly don't think he posted in the correct place so I asked him the questions that I did, think he has an 05 but not sure.

I think he has a LMM....;)

Sweet!!!

he does, new lmm straight piped with no dpf!! keep us updated!

Very cool, like to hear the results of the power and driveability of it.

Nice...keep us updated.

Well, I guess he's to busy thrashin his first set of tires to keep us updated!!!:rolleyes:

no dpf huh!! what do you need to do that, some kind of fooler like the boost stick in the lly.

Does it smoke??

Just put the ppe level 2 on my lmm, wow runs great good throttle response. Good work ppe

How much and what power can we get.

How much and what power can we get.

x 2

Well sry guys for no update i was in orlando.
I have it set one level 4 with straight pipe..
It runs like a raped ape.. The 3rd to 4th shift was kinda of long but its perfect now i guys putting miles on it worked it out..
I heard that PPE will tear up ur tranny so im going to order a trans go jr.
And my truck is a 07 LMM.. Im very happy with it..

Thanks
Tyler

P.S yes it smokes with no DFP AND MUFFLER.
And on a lug u can really get it to pour out..
The people on the interstate were a little upset from all the soot..:ro)

P.S yes it smokes with no DFP AND MUFFLER.


So you completely removed it? Isn't their a bunch of sensor's hooked up too it and (if) where did you put them?

You removed your DPF? Thats bad for the environment... haha jk. That is sweet that you can get rid of that, I wanted to see if you could take all that crap off and have the truck run right, can you post pics of your work?

How much $$$$

We are taking orders on them now. Please call for pricing.


Dan Grant
714-985-4825 ext 115

Awesome. So glad to hear that the trucks runs with out the stupid DPF on it.

This is great news! Just curious if you still like the programmer a lot? How are your EGT's? Is there any chance of getting some pics of your exhaust system? Are you throwing any sort of codes? Sorry for all the questions.

Well sry guys for no update i was in orlando.
I have it set one level 4 with straight pipe..
It runs like a raped ape.. The 3rd to 4th shift was kinda of long but its perfect now i guys putting miles on it worked it out..
I heard that PPE will tear up ur tranny so im going to order a trans go jr.
And my truck is a 07 LMM.. Im very happy with it..

Thanks
Tyler

P.S yes it smokes with no DFP AND MUFFLER.
And on a lug u can really get it to pour out..
The people on the interstate were a little upset from all the soot..:ro)

What exhaust system are you running? Is the PPE an ECM swap or a programmer?

What exhaust system are you running? Is the PPE an ECM swap or a programmer?
hand held tuner just like all there other products

Anybody intereseted in LMM tuners PM me...

Dan

good job! Glad it works out for the LMM guys!!!

he does, new lmm straight piped with no dpf!! keep us updated!

I wanna straight pipe my LMM how did he do it without shooting flames when the truck decides it is time to go into regen mode. Is there any tuning software out to stop the truck from going into regen mode?

I wanna straight pipe my LMM how did he do it without shooting flames when the truck decides it is time to go into regen mode. Is there any tuning software out to stop the truck from going into regen mode?

my understanding is that it will no go in to regeneration mode unless it thinks the dpf is getting full. maybe if it feels no pressure it will just think that it is clean and not want to regenerate?!?!?!!?

I was told that even if the computer does not sense the dpf needs to be cleaned it will go into regen mode after a determined amount of mileage. Even so what am I supposed to do with the sensors that that are left after I straight pipe it??

Is there ANY concern running these programs and destroying the Allison Tranny???

yes, the tranny is not different from the past ones i believe. always the thought of a limp.

I was told that even if the computer does not sense the dpf needs to be cleaned it will go into regen mode after a determined amount of mileage. Even so what am I supposed to do with the sensors that that are left after I straight pipe it??

I'd say to put the sensors back in the strait pipe. Man I'm curious if this is gonna work without setting all sorts of codes and going into limp. Someone needs to try it and tell us, could always go back to stock if it didn't work.

Will this new LMM PPE tuner work well with trucks that have stock exhaust, just see alot of comments about it with it staight piped, and how many levels are there and H.P. ratings?

Pretty quiet here for 3 days:confuzeld

Why isn't there any more responses on PPE's tuner for the LMM are there problems with it?:eek:

he came and wrote in the other thread he started about it. its in the exhaust section i believe, called lmm exhaust

Thanks Billygoat7c :ro)

Will this new LMM PPE tuner work well with trucks that have stock exhaust, just see alot of comments about it with it staight piped, and how many levels are there and H.P. ratings?


Yes! it will work with stock exhaust.

Sorry I have been out of town for a couple of days...

Dan

sorry to hijack, but what is dpf and regen mode?

DPF= Diesel Particulate Filter. It filters all the particulates from the diesel exhaust, very restrictive.

Regeneration Mode: The engine raises the EGTs very high to burn off all the particulates trapped in the filter.

What about onstar monitoring the vehicles performance records, will they be able to tell if there have been changes to your truck, like no DPF or a tuner on it. My girl friend has new Yukon and Onstar sent a E-mail showing all systems on vehicle were ok. They seem to know alot about the vehicle, just wonder how much they really can monitor? When I finally get my new LMM I want to add some performance to it but I don't want any problems with the 5yr. warranty.

What about onstar monitoring the vehicles performance records, will they be able to tell if there have been changes to your truck, like no DPF or a tuner on it. My girl friend has new Yukon and Onstar sent a E-mail showing all systems on vehicle were ok. They seem to know alot about the vehicle, just wonder how much they really can monitor? When I finally get my new LMM I want to add some performance to it but I don't want any problems with the 5yr. warranty.
On Star knows as much as your truck's computer does. Your truck sends all the infromation it knows to On Star for an evaluation.

On Star knows as much as your truck's computer does. Your truck sends all the infromation it knows to On Star for an evaluation.

:rolleyes:


say it once, say it a million times, Im a broken record....

you guys are all way too paranoid. OnStar doesnt know anything. Tune away, worry free.

Will you need an egr blocker plate and is there a finger stick for the new lmm. Does the new tuner have finger stick capability? The lose of the back press of the exhaust will it set egr codes.

DPF= Diesel Particulate Filter. It filters all the particulates from the diesel exhaust, very restrictive.

Regeneration Mode: The engine raises the EGTs very high to burn off all the particulates trapped in the filter.


Thanks!

well im at about 2500 miles now no dpf and im fine..
Chip still working great trucks pulls hard as ever and no problems..
I put in my shift kit and friday im ordering lift pumps and torque converter..

Thanks
Tyler

Walsh what did you do to the sensors on the straight pipe for the dpf and crap? Trying to do my Kodiak andthe exhaust shops around here are nervous to touch it without any insider about the sensors.

What horsepower levels are available and is the truck any louder with the new tunes?

I like how my truck e-mails me very month. I'm waiting for the one that says "Tom, I miss you. Come drive me more!". :)

Does anyone have the PPE tuner on the LMM with every thing else stock on the truck, and if so does it regen the same, temps, h.p. ratings, etc....? Oh ya, and how high can you set it to keep Alli out of trouble?

thanks

is it just me or is anyone else thinking were the heck are you guys getting all this money to buy a 50 grand truck and go right in to buying toys for it:cool: :think:

:funnypost Yeah, but then yah gotta think. Its only money, bank has plenty and will give it to anyone. :rolleyes:

does anyone have the ppe tuner on the lmm with every thing else stock on the truck, and if so does it regen the same, temps, h.p. Ratings, etc....? oh ya, and how high can you set it to keep alli out of trouble? thanks pm dan@ppe

is it just me or is anyone else thinking were the heck are you guys getting all this money to buy a 50 grand truck and go right in to buying toys for it:cool: :think:

Life is short so live good while you can! :)

yes i put my chip on my dads truck tonight and ran it..
He has a tahoe and he just got his new lmm..
It run a 15.226 at 89 in the 1/4 tonight.
Thats stock exhaust everything..
It did not throw any smoke.
On my truck with the straight pipe it puts out plenty of smoke.
But with a completly stock set up i think it would be impossible to get any smoke out or these things.
There to restricted..

Thanks
Tyler

i would think with a stock exhaust it would make it go into regen mode quicker but i would love to hear your truck bet it sounds good

yes i put my chip on my dads truck tonight and ran it..
He has a tahoe and he just got his new lmm..
It run a 15.226 at 89 in the 1/4 tonight.
Thats stock exhaust everything..
It did not throw any smoke.
On my truck with the straight pipe it puts out plenty of smoke.
But with a completly stock set up i think it would be impossible to get any smoke out or these things.
There to restricted..

Thanks
Tyler


Walsh can you give a little more info on your dads LMM with your tune in it, what level was it on to get 15.226 in the 1/4, and any more details

thanks

Walsh what did you do to the sensors on the straight pipe for the dpf and crap? Trying to do my Kodiak andthe exhaust shops around here are nervous to touch it without any insider about the sensors.

Come on answer the some of these question we would like to know how to do this to our trucks if you don't want to tell us then you should not have told us you did it :cool: I pm'd him and still no response walsh450mx21 that is

http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1725651#post1725651

First post..he says he took the sensors out, it throws a code but it runs fine...

patience my friend patience.

i had it on level 4.. leaving with no spool at a 0.031 r/t I killed the tree
On the exhaust i unplugged the sensors took the exhaust off then i cut the pipe from infront of the dpf and behing it were the sensors plug in..
i put straight pipe in between the two pipes.
Thanks i welded pipe were the cat goes and were the muffler goes..
i rehooked all the sensors..
It some times throws a code and some times it doesnt..
The truck has about 3k miles now since this was done.
No problems..
My truck with the exhaust air box mod and ppe level 4 ran a 14.4 with a 0.187 r/t.. in the 1/4..
I dont know what more u guys want and i awnsered every message i got..

So you straight piped the dpf and the cat and muffler. re connected the sensors back in the factory locations roughly. thanks for this info, now what CODE are you getting? and do you think that it is when the system tries to go into a regen mode?

Im not sure what code i am getting.
And no as soon as i started the truck it came up..
I dont think its because of regen mode..

Walsh you have a pm from me. Thanks

Ok didnt know if you had a number for it or not to see what it pulls up on my program is all fo rthe code. Thanks for the other info though.

is no one else gonna call bs? does anyone think gm will make it so if you cut it out the truck will be fine? post some pics.

somthing i fogot to add is that when u cut out the cat there is a smaller pipe inside the big one..
Im not sure what this is for and i didnt see how it could be removed..


Thanks
Tyler

is no one else gonna call bs? does anyone think gm will make it so if you cut it out the truck will be fine? post some pics.
I'll tell you tomorrow if you can do just that. Also, I'll be able to tell you at the end of the week just how good the PPE downloader is. I just ordered mine today ;)
Edit: I forgot to add that I talked to Dan at PPE today (placed my order with him) and he verified everthing "walsh" has been saying.

Yes I would not post a bunch of b.s because i dont not wanna be responible for alot of ppl *****ing up there trucks..

Thanks
Tyler

Thanks for the update:D :D So what about a 4" mbrp or other brand and put the sensors back in so if you need to take it back for warranty you could but the stock back on ???

I'll tell you tomorrow if you can do just that. Also, I'll be able to tell you at the end of the week just how good the PPE downloader is. I just ordered mine today ;)
Edit: I forgot to add that I talked to Dan at PPE today (placed my order with him) and he verified everthing "walsh" has been saying.

Thanks for you order! You will be very happy with it...

Dan

If the LMM PPE is anything like the LBZ version, your in for a treat

Put mine on my truck last night and it seems to run very well. I loaded level 4 and was wondering if there is any concerns that I neede to be aware of. DO I need a pyometer? I just hit it a few times for short burst:D. After I had it on for 30minutes. The DIC said clean exhaust filter. That wonderful DPF.:rolleyes:

Yes on my dads truck with the stock everything and the ppe on 4..
It said clean exhaust filter too.
But i kept driving and this message went away after about 30 mines..

Thanks
Tyler

I cut my cat and my dpf out today and put straight pipes in place. I left the sensors in the oem exhaust piping and also left my muffler in place. Drove for about 30-40 miles after I finished it with no SES light or anything. Then the next time I got in my truck the SES light came on as soon as I started it. The truck doesn't act different in any way other than the SES light is on. I'll have my PPE downloader tomorrow to combine with my exhaust. I can't wait!

-Billy Dawson

See i am not a bull****er.. Tyler

what are the code numbers for the SES lights if you get a chance to check it thanks.

what is the diameter of the stock exhaust system?

what is the diameter of the stock exhaust system?

looks like factory was 4" on my LMM. buts its ALL in the scrap yard now hehe

Code #2454 is the code on mine. Hope this helps.

-Billy Dawson

thanks for the numbers now got to see what it is saying.

Well, I got my downloader from PPE today and the truck runs great. I am having one problem, however. I'll start from the beginning so that those with knowledge can possibly help me. I cut my cat and dpf out yesterday and installed pipe in place of them (pics to come soon) and then drove for about 40 miles with no problems or SES light on. Then the next time I got in the SES light came on as I fully expected it to at some point. Drove about 30-40 more miles yesterday. Went to work this morning, which is about a 10 mile drive. I was driving pretty hard because I needed to get some work done early this morning that couldn't wait. While doing about 85 mph the "clean exhaust filter. see owners manual" message popped up. When I pulled into my shop I wanted to check for exhaust leaks so I left the truck running and got out. When I got out I noticed there was a cloud of white smoke behind my truck that smelled like kerosene. I thought maybe it was just because I had been driving hard for a few minutes.(?) Turns out, the truck had started to regen and the fuel that was being put into the exhaust was burning and causing the smoke. Now here comes the problem....it won't STOP regenerating. I drove a little over 100 miles today (approx) with it doing this. My fuel mileage has dropped from 13.0 to 12.4 now and seems to be staying there, but I'm hoping it doesn't drop any more. Plus the smoke coming out of it smells like **** and people seem to think I have something wrong with my engine (which I obviously don't). Any help would be much appreciated. I'm going to try taking the sensors out of the exhaust tomorrow and clearing the codes with my PPE and see if that works but any other ideas would be great.

-Billy

here are some pictures......


http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151092&page=5

here are some pictures......


http://dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151092&page=5

great looking truck.

Well, I got my downloader from PPE today and the truck runs great. I am having one problem, however. I'll start from the beginning so that those with knowledge can possibly help me. I cut my cat and dpf out yesterday and installed pipe in place of them (pics to come soon) and then drove for about 40 miles with no problems or SES light on. Then the next time I got in the SES light came on as I fully expected it to at some point. Drove about 30-40 more miles yesterday. Went to work this morning, which is about a 10 mile drive. I was driving pretty hard because I needed to get some work done early this morning that couldn't wait. While doing about 85 mph the "clean exhaust filter. see owners manual" message popped up. When I pulled into my shop I wanted to check for exhaust leaks so I left the truck running and got out. When I got out I noticed there was a cloud of white smoke behind my truck that smelled like kerosene. I thought maybe it was just because I had been driving hard for a few minutes.(?) Turns out, the truck had started to regen and the fuel that was being put into the exhaust was burning and causing the smoke. Now here comes the problem....it won't STOP regenerating. I drove a little over 100 miles today (approx) with it doing this. My fuel mileage has dropped from 13.0 to 12.4 now and seems to be staying there, but I'm hoping it doesn't drop any more. Plus the smoke coming out of it smells like **** and people seem to think I have something wrong with my engine (which I obviously don't). Any help would be much appreciated. I'm going to try taking the sensors out of the exhaust tomorrow and clearing the codes with my PPE and see if that works but any other ideas would be great.

-Billy

hey i got your pm. I am not having that problem atleast yet (knock on wood) what i did was unplug the before and aft sensors on the dpf and unplug the wires that go to the pressure module that the air tubes are connected to. This elimates the truck getting any info at allfrom the exhaust. seems to be working so far.

TRy going with the sensors unpluged..
My truck hasnt done this at all but before i cut the exhaust it used to regen and i hated it because everbody though u had a rag..

Thanks
Tyler

TRy going with the sensors unpluged..
My truck hasnt done this at all but before i cut the exhaust it used to regen and i hated it because everbody though u had a rag..

Thanks
Tyler

tyler whats your setup? you running any of the sensors or air pressure tubes? I got rid of all of it instead of trying to fool it. That seems to be working so far me how about yours and how did you do it?

Wouldn't it be cool to discover that GM made it that easy to defeat BS emissions. Maybe they think emissions are BS too and made it easy. I'm happy for the LMM ers

Took my sensors out this morning and it stopped regenerating. I believe it had to do with the off-road diesel I was running because of the higher sulfer content. It was probably sensing this and telling the truck to regen all the time to burn it off. My fuel mileage is going back up and the truck is running great. Big thanks to Dan at PPE for putting up with me calling him and asking questions.

Big thanks to Dan at PPE for putting up with me calling him and asking questions.
I rolled into PPE yesterday to pick up their programmer. They have a lot of trick doo-dads in their showroom. I was sweating profusely, and consider myself lucky to get out of there with just a programmer and gauge purchase:)

Took my sensors out this morning and it stopped regenerating. I believe it had to do with the off-road diesel I was running because of the higher sulfer content. It was probably sensing this and telling the truck to regen all the time to burn it off. My fuel mileage is going back up and the truck is running great. Big thanks to Dan at PPE for putting up with me calling him and asking questions.
Billy-
Did your truck stop smoking when you unhooked everything? I am just about ready to straight pipe mine and tear everything out and dual exhaust it but want to make sure I don't regret doing it.....Thanks

Billy-
Did your truck stop smoking when you unhooked everything? I am just about ready to straight pipe mine and tear everything out and dual exhaust it but want to make sure I don't regret doing it.....Thanks
Yep, just took my 02 sensors out and it stopped regenerating and stopped smoking. Now I constantly get the "clean exhaust filter" message on my DIC but I think if I unplug the pressure sensor tubes it will stop that as well but I haven't had time to do it yet because of having to spray on the farm but I will get to it sometime this week. You shouldn't have any problems.

-Billy

:D told ya!

can you guys break down what you took out for me for the tubes and such. Thanks

so it is really that easy to get rid of the DPF but just removing the filter and some connections? That seems to easy for all the hassle that the government made diesel manufacturers go through to tighten emissions, but im not complaining.

i have my sensors unpluged.
My truck never regended i dont think it just always seemed to put out some white smoke and once i unplugged my sensors it was fine..
is the white smoke regen??

Thanks
Tyler

Yes, the white smoke is indication of the regen happening. you can actually see it since there is nothing in the exhaust to catch the smoke. If you were to sit still with the truck in drive for a few seconds and let it build up a cloud of smoke you would notice that it smells like diesel.

ok iam new to this whole thing....my dad has the new lmm and i was wondering how or what you do to get the "clean exhaust filter" message...like what do you go to check the soot level of the dpf....do you just push a button and it gives you the readings????? thx