Hey Everyone,


Been looking at the new Quadzilla Tuner, I have the Predator just for Tire reflach, top speed de-limiter and scanning, currently running a HOT OJ stacking with a VA Pressure Box.


Still am waiting to see about some new tunes for the Predator but anyway anyone running that Quad Box yet???


GMChttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif

Have you had any problems with warranty work after sooping up your rig? What is the best to do first? What exhaust are you running?

How do you like the sound of you Banks? Did you install it? How long did it take?

Have you had any problems with warranty work after sooping up your rig? What is the best to do first? What exhaust are you running?





Out of sight and out of mind. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif


Everything is unpluggable, they don't see it, so I don't worry about it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif


GMC http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif

How do you like the sound of you Banks? Did you install it? How long did it take?





The BANKS was easy to install. If you get one take the passenger rear shock out as well as the passenger fender liner. A COUPLE OF BOLTS on the exhaust and it's done. Had it in and out 2 hours with the truck lifted by a jack only.


GMC http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley14.gifEdited by: GMC-2002-Dmax

Very nice! Thanks for the info! How do you like the sound? does it really cool your egt's?

bybycop,



Yes it does lower EGT's by at least 150-200 degrees at WOT.


Fit and finish is first rate.


If you buy one you will not regret it.


Buy EGT and Boost gauges before you put the exhaust on then see the difference yourself.


GMC http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley16.gif

I agree with GMC-2002-Dmax.. get the Banks. excellent product. great sound! Not annoyingly loud either. i got the gauges before the exhaust as i wanted to believe there was a difference.. which there WAS. about 150-200 just as stated above...


As for the quad box, none yet but i sure like that new predator.. i'd really like to run against someone with a quad.. just not king d...hehehehEdited by: Diesel Power

I have both the Hot Juice and recently picked up a Quadzilla Stealth Tuner, 135 HP model. I really like the Quad. They are very close in performance. My Hot Juice defueled allot on hard runs. I talked with Aaron about his and they really didn't have a cure. Said the Controller may have some features that could help this issue.


I towed with the Quad recently and it did a very good job. I'm liking the Quad allot, but am also waiting to see what the controller brings.

When you going to post some pics JIm?

Edited by: king d

ask away and il try and answer

The Stealth 135 is sweet! Has lots of power. And it runs cooler then the truck will run when in stock trim. I read that somewhere, and thought, "yea! right" but it really does. 50-100* cooler. and 200-300* cooler then the new 120+hp Predator. And has a little more power as well.

The Stealth 135 is sweet! Has lots of power. And it runs cooler then the truck will run when in stock trim. I read that somewhere, and thought, "yea! right" but it really does. 50-100* cooler. and 200-300* cooler then the new 120+hp Predator. And has a little more power as well. hey i posted that about it being cooler in my initial post on the stealth glad you can back me up,so folks dont think i am a liar...jess

Jess; you are the one I was talking about, but didn't want to name you.

How is the stealth 135 for towing? Doesnt it only go as low as 70 hp? Is it better to get that one or the 55-110hp?





Mike

The 70 hp setting should never give you any problems. I ran the Predator on the highest setting for more then 1400 miles while towing 10,000#. And the exhaust temperatures never were an issue. And the transmission only zinged once, and that was my fault for trying to push it a little to hard up a 4 mile 12% grade at 65 mph. I got in to it a little trying to force a down shift.


I do have a 4" Banks exhaust, and an AFE stage II air filter setup. I almost always run in the highest settings or the next to the highest. (unless I am expermenting with settings of different boxes)

Mike,


Thanks for the input. I know Im going to be the same way. I know that I will always want it in the highest setting. Im a speed freak, just worry about my tranny and engine?


With your AFE II did you see a differance in egt's? A guy at the GM dealer said any aftermart filter system will void warranty. He said you can change the filter but not the whole system. Thats a crock of sh%t if you ask me. Are you able to hear the turbo whine more? I sure hope so!


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The guy don't know his ass from a hole in the ground! If something happened to the engine and they could show that the air filtation system caused it then yes it would void the warranty. Such as debris going through the air cleaner and in to the engine.


I did not notice any difference in exhaust temperatures with the AFE. However, the turbo sounds like a very loud whistle now. Atleast 5-10 times louder now.


As for running on the higher settings, just make sure you give it a lot of time and miles for the truck and tranny to adapt to the new found power.


With the Quadzilla Stealth 135hp and 4" exhaust with a good flowing air filter, I can not see temperatures ever being an issue.

guys my service manager told me that gm rold them to void these trucks with aftermarket air intakes on them.he told me if it comes in for electrical leave it on if it comes in for engine related put stock back on....who knows,i feel like they are leveling with me but who knows.i do know for normal electrical things that have popped up have left nos and propane hooked up once,service manager ask me to please not bring it back in like that ,i told him i wouldnt but something came up that needed fixing asap......jess

You are a brave sole leaving propane or NOS on when going in for service. If they happen to note it, you would be screwed from then on. Not that you will ever have any problems with just using a few different minor modshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


Remember; Out of site, out of mind!

Mike,


Is it better to put the pyro before or after the turbo? Ive always thought before for the acurate reading but a guy last night that i met, who works in a diesel shop, said after the turbo is best. Where did you get your Stealth? Would you dare tow with the 70-135hp stealth?


Thanks,


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

You are a brave sole leaving propane or NOS on when going in for service. If they happen to note it, you would be screwed from then on. Not that you will ever have any problems with just using a few different minor modshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif


Remember; Out of site, out of mind! the owner of the dealership is on my side i told him what i wanted to do before i bought the truck...jess

the owner of the dealership is on my side i told him what i wanted to do before i bought the truck...jess


It's got to be nice to have a good dealer that will back you up!

Mike,


Is it better to put the pyro before or after the turbo? Ive always thought before for the acurate reading but a guy last night that i met, who works in a diesel shop, said after the turbo is best. Where did you get your Stealth? Would you dare tow with the 70-135hp stealth?


Thanks,


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I would think it is better before the turbo because once the heat has cooled going through the turbo you have no way of know if it was hot enough to do any damage to it. I know guys say to figure on reading about 200-400* cooler if you have the exhaust gas temperature probe (gauge reads much lower in this case) after the turbo, But that is just guessing in my opinion.


But any reading has to be better then no reading. So place it where you want. When the Juice monitor comes out, I will have a probe in both exhaust manifolds.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Thanks Mike!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif I planned on putting it before but just wanted to talk to some people that actually know thier stuff! Thanks for the input!


Hey, where did you get your g tech?


Thanks,


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Pyro Location,


a.k.a. hoot location


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Thanks Mike!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif I planned on putting it before but just wanted to talk to some people that actually know thier stuff! Thanks for the input!


Hey, where did you get your g tech?


Thanks,


Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





http://www.gtechpro.com/index.html This one is about $250 but you can get the older one for about $130 (it is not as accurate, nor does it have as many functions)

Still trying to get people together for a group buy on the stealth. Really good chance to save some money!!!


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Mikehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Got my stealth today. Thanks to bybycop for setting this up and to Van for the quick response. He shipped mine on Saturday and I received it (in Canada) today.


Just have it set to 70HP for now as I don't have guages yet.


Also put Bilsteins on today so I'm a very happy camper all around.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

https://www.bullydog.com/shop_data/pic/Powerpup.jpg

the above picture is what i have AND LOOKS TO BE THE SAME AS the Quadzilla Tuner, does some one know if thay are the same, but i see my hp levels are different, they removed the timing aspect from the downloader and now i run stacked with the vanaken smartbox E(110hp)and downloader at 55,85,95 hp

sounds like a good question for bully dog..........quad has different tuning

I have a Power Pup...... at least that's what my wifey call s it http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

sdaver:


is it a tunning that vanaken released or their very own, or maybe the companys come from the same sorce:


what i learned today about this stack:http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


received my downloader power pup last week, had bully-dog take the timing out so i could run with the vanaken smartbox E, set the downloader to 85hp mode and vanaken still at 110hp setting, truck is running great(14,3s in a 1/4) and the best of all is the new mileage i am getting,i first thought the command center had screwed up on the display it was showing me, but overtime i could tell by the fuel consumption it used, so today i did a 200 mile trip and drove 74mph then filled at the pump, it took 8.1us gallons to go 204 miles
do the math, that works out to 25mpg us or 29.2mpg imperial,this is hiway not pulling mileage, any others with their stacks that have great numbers please tell, at 74mph(gps) my revs are 2000, this i feel a big part

http://www.cyclonediesel.com/gmc.htm#pl (http://www.cyclonediesel.com/gmc.htm#pl)


looks to be all the same stuff, including 3position switch as the vanaken box, same wiring harness and serial number very close to my vanaken smartboxE, but different tunes, also farther down in the propane section, you can see the bully-dog symbol in the picture, i bet just a sticker over top of a smartboxEEdited by: fredw

450 hp, more then8,000 lbs, driving 74 mph and getting 25 mpg! I'll take what he`s havin`http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

What is a web site I can go to and buy or at least read about all of these chips and programmers?

hdmax:the statment i made above is correct, might be hard to believe, but it was there, no BS i say the way they are, when more people get them more, will be said about this combo, other members have reported great mileage increases with vanaken as well


BennyBoy: this fourm has some great info, do a search for power boxes, check the ads out here, Kenedey has some great info on his site, he has tried them all, READ and READ

Fred,





Cyclone is a dealer of ours. They also deal in BD, Western Diesel, and Bullydog I believe.


We did a lot of tuning with the VA box in the past.


My tuner and teh one pictured above are totally different.


You are stacking 85hp + 110hp and running 14.3's? That right there should tell you that our tuning is much different. We are accomplishing that very easily with several of our tunes and are usually faster.


There a several different VA boxes available. We are also going to release a new module similar to the VA and Edge very very soon. LIke 2-3wks. This will be different than they are but the same principle.





Hope this helps, if not its not too hard to find some data on our stuff on this site. If you look for 10 minutes you should find more than you care to read.








Quad

Fredw,


As for Quad's tuner and his tuning......well let's just say 13.4@98mph and this was at a track, no Gtech.


GeorgeEdited by: BIG DIPPER

quad: it looks to be the same hardware with different private solfware as i mentioned:


GEorge: as for the times13.4 is real fast, but i bet their is tranny upgrades, as well as a truck that does not weight over 8000lbs, keep apples to apples, as for quad tunning, keep up the great work, maybe i will try it out soonhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

OK Fred,


Apples to apples: you are 8k+, that would mean you have a cc/lb and keep a lot of stuff in there. I have a cc/sb and am a little over 7k last night when I ran, no stripping, full tank of fuel, and plenty of tools in the back seat. There are a few minor tranny upgrades......As for you putting down 450hp, in an 8k+ truck, running 14.3 at let's just say a slightly higher than the average mph.....something doesn't add up. Where are your tranny upgrades because 450hp in 8k+........slip slip slip. Stock Allison is only good for roughly 375.....unless you have special fluid or something.


Put your mind at ease, call Mike at Bullydog and ask him if what you have puts down 450......he told me what he stacked to get 475 and it was quite a bit more than what you are doing. You can't just take 110 and add 85 when stacking and think you end up with 195hp.....even at that, an average dmax is in the 240-250 range so you will still be lite.


Bottom line...if you are happy with it, that's all that matters. Not trying to flame, just stating the facts.Edited by: BIG DIPPER

One would have to be at 500 + RWHP to acheive such greatness of rolling a 8k auto to a 14.3 94 MPH in 1/4 mile.... Not possible with a stock Allison ta boot .... Something is a miss .... Bullydog must toss a whiff of NOS in too ....

Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

The most I have dynoed is 403, and that was just one time, and run a 0-90 in 12.68 sec. the tranny went to sleep just a moment after that. Sense then the tranny cries pretty easy. I have never been able to repeat that. 376 with the G-Tech is the highest after that.


If you are talking 450 fwhp then there are many running around with that. And believe me, 450 fwhp in a 8000# truck will not run a 14.3 in a 1/4 mile. (unless you have a 20 mph rolling start) But if you think your stock tranny is holding still while you run 450 to the rear wheels. You are mistakin big time.


I have a certified scale ticket for my truck, and it weighs 7280# nicely dressed. What are you carring to get it up over 8,000#?

as for what i have on the truck, for its weight, i run a full tollbox and 90 gallon aux tank, to get the weight over 8000lbs


as for the hp i went to the site i seen on this fourm, it says rwhp http://www.smokemup.com/auto_math/60_foot.php


then installed the figures my gtech said and bang, if we had a track around here i would be there, as for tranny upgrades, local transmission shop tried a cheep upgrade, (but to date no none slipage prob.)


as for the gtech, it is a comp. and am not able to keep the picture of the runs up for longer than a half hour, due to photoisland where they are stored, trust me i have tried


as for the 14.3seconds in a 8000 pound truck, it is possible, but will need tranny upgrade i have been told,no problems yet, have duplicated this time more than 4 times in the last week, prior to the 85downloader pup i was running around the 14.9 with the 110 smartboxEhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

fred those are great times and i have been talking to some one who did over 540 with a stack that was using some van aaken products ,the thing is maybe you found a combination that gives you big time power.there is a formula for hp it is weight diveded by (et/5.825)cubed this will give you power at the crank then use like .85 to multiply to get power to the wheels.also you may want to put the timing in your programmer and just put a loop in your box so you could take it out when and if you need it....good info keep it up...


DIPPER what can i say sweet times!!!Edited by: king d

thanks kingD, all i know is it really kicks some ass for now, but will need tranny support with this stack, i am looking to find a suncoast dealer here in western canada, but no luck yet, also best mileage yethttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Fredw,


Real curious as to what this tranny shop did for you.....I mean, if it hold 450 in a 8k+ truck.......these guys must know their stuff.

fluids and inspection to my knowlege, no slipage yet, keep in mind that the smartbox, has tranny slipage protection, that should protect a fair bit

Got ya, I have heard that the Transynd can ward off limp mode......

did you read that thread about "got juiced" over at the bombers site, he put down over 500hp with a stock tranny, 4", hot juice stacked with 110 pressure, k&N, on a dyno(not sure which one) had lots of cummins boys watchin

He didn't use a pressure box, it was a POWER PUP. There is a big difference between a tranny holding 500 on a dyno and 500 trying to go through the quarter..........I am serious about the Transynd.


George

Got ya, I have heard that the Transynd can ward off limp mode......





Believe me, That is not true. The fluid will help with transmission life, but will not stop limp. You will need viagra for thathttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

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Believe me, That is not true. The fluid will help with transmission life, but will not stop limp. You will need viagra for thathttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif





i will call them today and find out what was usedEdited by: fredw