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: Need help to defend 11 and 12 sec Duramax’s


thinkenbig
03-29-2007, 05:09 PM
Hey guys,
So I was having an argument or discussion about how I thought that a 8,000 lb truck doing the Ľ mile in 11 or 12 sec is cooler that a Toyota Supra or other ricer burners.
And the guys where like but it will take you $30,000 to get your truck to do that! And said no way it cost that much…
but about how much does it cost to get a Duramax in the 11’s or 12’s and how dependable will it be?
Can you do it and stay street legal? (lets say we are not in CA, LOL)

OneTALLGMC96
03-29-2007, 05:15 PM
Not $30K, and yes, it's safe and reliable!!!

Mine will hopefully run 11's this weekend with some tweeking. I have far, far less than 30K if you don't count the purchase price.

OneTALLGMC96
03-29-2007, 05:16 PM
oh, and there's nothing not "street legal" about it!

ratlover
03-29-2007, 05:56 PM
I had a AFE stage 2 intake, tie rod sleeves, traction bars(probably coulda got by without them) 2 stage N2O, TTS Xtreme, lift pump set up(had 400 or so in IIRC), a stage 5 suncoast, and ATS Co pilot, exhaust, ranch 9000 shocks.....think thats it. Mine ran 11's. You can add it up but its under 30k. You could buy a used duramax and put it into the 11's for 30k I bet.

Oh....I drove it every day(put 55k on it in 3 years) and plowed snow with it every winter :D Street legal? Most of the times I drove my truck it wasnt legaly ):h It would pass any inspection or the like though.....

thinkenbig
03-29-2007, 06:06 PM
Thats exactly what I was thinking, thanks for the back up guys!

MAX707
03-29-2007, 09:45 PM
I would say about $15,000-17,000 with labor. Just a rough estimation, but I think it's pretty close to achieve HIGH 11's in a 8000lbs truck. Maybe a couple thousand less if the truck were around 6000lbs. Just my .2 though.

OneTALLGMC96
03-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Trans $5500
Twins $4500
Lift Pumps $1000

$11,000 + (purchase price) to run 11's/12's :D

Wolford
03-29-2007, 09:56 PM
I ran a 12.9X with SCV, tuning, HTT charger= about 8000.

IdahoRob
03-29-2007, 09:57 PM
I did my 11 sec. ride for under 8,000.00. Plus the cost of the truck.

Slick
03-29-2007, 10:26 PM
I bought my truck for 20G's 2 1/2 years ago
Paid 3500 for the trans. installed.
1200 for programming
350 for nitrous(bought it at cost) They retailed at the time for 650 IIRC
450 for lift pump set up
100 bucks for the tie rod sleeves
Less than 26 grand including cost of the truck.


I've been 7.6's in the 1/8th, which is easily an 11. This was with a really moderate shot (.072 jet)

moss022
03-29-2007, 10:30 PM
trans, good tune, stuff to hold your front end. that will get you 12.XX with a stock turbo

malibu795
03-29-2007, 10:37 PM
i got less than 5500 in mine sc4, efi live, big head, gauages and once i get the traction i will be high 13s easily


oh yeah cost of the truck 22,800

racinmike77
03-29-2007, 11:46 PM
trans, good tune, stuff to hold your front end. that will get you 12.XX with a stock turbo
exactly and $500 giggle gas system might push you to 11s if your lucky

ratlover
03-30-2007, 10:55 AM
N2O is cheaper up front but long term will set you back more if you run a bunch. Its also quicker than a new charger. But add both for some real fun :D

McRat
03-30-2007, 11:19 AM
What it took to run 11's on fuel with Casper:

High Tech Charger
PPE Dual Fueler
Mike L trans
EFILive tuning
Exhaust
Shim
Liftpump
SuperDiesel centerlink and sleeves.

Perhaps $15k including labor with no discounts. Drop that about 5k for market rates and doing the charger/CP3 install yourself.

IBDMAX'IN
03-30-2007, 12:47 PM
You can show him the video in my sig, That's a daily driven truck that was in the 11's for under $7000 and it's a crew cab.

DURAtotheMAX
03-30-2007, 01:05 PM
what I needed for 12's in my crew cab

HTT/mcrat turbo
tune
cognito braces
trans
SD tie rod sleeves
KD lift pumps

smudge122
03-30-2007, 07:53 PM
Trans $5500
Twins $4500
Lift Pumps $1000

$11,000 + (purchase price) to run 11's/12's :D

Don't forget the price of a good tune......... :pig:

Max Power
03-30-2007, 07:57 PM
12's can be done for under $5000 if you do it yourself including the transmission. Even 11's could likely be done for that price if you aren't scrared of blowing sh!t up.

Dakota Duramax
04-03-2007, 05:28 PM
Even 11's could likely be done for that price if you aren't scrared of blowing sh!t up.

:lol: :funnypost

Dieselson
04-11-2007, 12:00 AM
Hopefully we can run 12s, with

Charger: $4000
Dual Fuelers:$4000
Trans:$4000
Tuning:$800
Lift Pump:$400
All other stuff including tie rods sleeves, exhaust, and intake: Like $2000

F2000Charlie
04-11-2007, 12:01 PM
12's for 15 grand? Wow....what do you guys do to afford this stuff?

CC's that do 12's and high 11's are way more impressive than a Supra doing that.

However, you can and will do that kind of timeslip in one of those cars for a lot less dough....its just a reality of weight. Hope the Supra has a 6spd though, the stock auto trannies are POS's.

If you want the best bang for the buck....15 grand w/car will get a Stang' DEEPPPPP into the 10's no problem at all.

A Grand National with 10 in the motor, 5 in tranny and suspension like Cal Hartline's Stage 2 Alum Block GN will run deep in the 9's....(he ran an 8.5 at 160mph+ on C16).

Different strokes for different folks. I think the most impressive thing about a DMAX is a truck that will run a high 12 and pull 15,000lbs worth of racecars myself:D

moss022
04-11-2007, 06:09 PM
tuning, tranny, lift pumps, and steering stuff will get trucks in the 12's some deeper than others. those simple upgrades keep it real stock too.

WI Huck
04-11-2007, 10:23 PM
Hopefully we can run 12s, with

Charger: $4000
Dual Fuelers:$4000
Trans:$4000
Tuning:$800
Lift Pump:$400
All other stuff including tie rods sleeves, exhaust, and intake: Like $2000

Don’t fool yourselves. The above recipe will get you into the 12’s but will also trash your engine. Dual CP3’s and a big turbo need rods to support them. :Nonono:

Dieselson
04-12-2007, 12:36 AM
Yeah I know that

F2000Charlie
04-12-2007, 11:18 AM
Sounds like a recipe for dumping $20,000 pretty easy huh.

Man....I need to make some extra dough....a nice CC DMAX + that stuff is like a $40,000 investment:eek:

1FastMax
04-13-2007, 09:35 PM
well, got mine to do 13.1 with some shady timing with a gps and a stopwatch, lol.
$4700 trans
$180 for big head wastegate
$800 for tuning
$500 for intake and exhaust
$200 for guages so i can watch it all melt down, lol.
probably around a 13.2 on the track, in 2wd with all terrains, wont break any records, but enough to scare the piss outta most.

whitetrash21
04-20-2007, 10:59 PM
i turn like 16 or 20 with my stocker but i can still kick a honda's ass :) ...and thats with 2500lbs of tools in the back!

Kat
04-22-2007, 05:36 PM
Sounds like a recipe for dumping $20,000 pretty easy huh.

Man....I need to make some extra dough....a nice CC DMAX + that stuff is like a $40,000 investment:eek:

I'm happy with my 12.85 and it didn't cost me 20K :D

Trans, exhaust, lift pump, & tuning :grd:

F2000Charlie
04-23-2007, 07:04 PM
I'm happy with my 12.85 and it didn't cost me 20K :D

Trans, exhaust, lift pump, & tuning :grd:

No kidding....thats about the fastest I could make one of these without selling my kidneys on the black market:eek: :)

schulte
04-23-2007, 07:10 PM
I think mid 12's are possible on factory hard parts... tuning, tranny, exhaust, and lift pump.

11's... thats another story.

1FastMax
04-23-2007, 08:32 PM
11's... thats another story.
Unless u dont mind blowing sh*t up, then just add NOS! (will nos even shave a whole second off?)

Dieselson
04-23-2007, 08:41 PM
Don't forget mcrat, he ran 11.77@114 on fuel only, with a small turbo and it lasted a while like that

1FastMax
04-23-2007, 09:56 PM
and it lasted a while like that
:iamwithst

IdahoRob
04-24-2007, 12:30 AM
1800.00 trans parts
1275.00 co-pilot
4500.00 twin turbos
<800.00 efi
<800.00 gauges/lift pump/front ends parts

Under $9000.00 I can get into the 11's with a LLY or LBZ

Dieselson
04-24-2007, 01:12 AM
$1800 trans parts wow, where was that, just wondering? Thats a good price.

IdahoRob
04-24-2007, 11:27 AM
$1800 trans parts wow, where was that, just wondering? Thats a good price.

Converter, transgo jr., pump spring/shim, lockup valve, stock clutches, factory allison deep pan.

1FastMax
04-25-2007, 02:21 AM
I noticed when i was lookin to get my trans done, that a lot of guys use borg warner frictions when they re-build, the allison comes from the factory with borg warner, so i guess if you do the build before you ever burn the stockers then you are just as good, but me personaly, i went with the alto reds, i guess i am just part of the "anything other than stock is good" mentality. But that is not always the case, you are dang sure runnin more power than me and they seem to be holdin fine.

IdahoRob
04-25-2007, 11:47 AM
I noticed when i was lookin to get my trans done, that a lot of guys use borg warner frictions when they re-build, the allison comes from the factory with borg warner, so i guess if you do the build before you ever burn the stockers then you are just as good, but me personaly, i went with the alto reds, i guess i am just part of the "anything other than stock is good" mentality. But that is not always the case, you are dang sure runnin more power than me and they seem to be holdin fine.

Same trans mods as last truck and the stock clutches held up with 100's upon 100's of 1/4 mile passes all in the 11's and 12's, and still going strong as far as I've heard. Allison builds a lot of heavy duty trannies for heavy equipment, good enough for me. I like testing things and it isn't the end of the world if they fail.

ZR1160
04-25-2007, 01:59 PM
it isn't the end of the world if they fail.
It's funny though, some people really freak out if there trans doesn't take "everything" they throw at it:D

1FastMax
04-25-2007, 09:13 PM
Thats why i got to be buddies with my builder, he said to try and break it and if i could, we would come up with somthin stronger. But i dont think i will ever run enough power to tear it up. Not in the near futue at least.

moss022
04-25-2007, 10:11 PM
its not so much freaking out because the tranny wont hold it, its the fact they you dropped some coin and it didnt do what it said! i have had my fair share of tranny trouble, in fact i still would of if i didnt find the tcm i currently use.

on a lighter note, all that is needed now for me to run 12's: besides the obvious tranny, lift pump, steering stuff, all i need on top of that is the aurora 5000 and Steve Cole's 120 hp tune!

1FastMax
04-26-2007, 02:52 AM
True, True, all i need it to get my truck put back togather, it didnt run long enough after i got the trans built to see what it could really do, i did have time to beat a new Corvette, 72 Nover Big Block and Trailblazer SS. That was fun.