Yep, Christmas came early (Not sure where to post this)


For those who know me, I don't street race (anymore) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif But there had been this new Hemi shortbed truck running around my area with what sounds like no mufflers ( no tail pipes), dogging it every time I see him. Yesterday he came up to me at a light and .......and well the http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif made me do it. We rolled out of the light, I goose it a little for an "invite" and he took the bait as I thought he would. I was in 4-wheel for this, and I left him in a "dark cloud" that would have made all diesel lovers proud. When I looked back you could hardly see him. For the record, there were many truck lengths between us for the short distance we ran. The priceless moment was when I slowed down and he eased up and stuck his head out the window and looked at this (heavy) 3/4 ton 4x4 chevy truck from one end to the other with the most puzzled look. He was not smiling too say the least. His expression was definately a "WTF" look. See signature for mods.


i must write on the chalk board i will not race..... i will not race .........shame on me

That thing got a Duramax???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


I take it it was a 1/2 ton. How long of run was it?

1/2 ton shortbed, The truck was nice looking for a Dodge.


I only got to maybe 75 mph so it was not too long a run. (in City limits)

Do you always run stacked, what level was the Hot OJ on?


Thanks,
Dennis

1/2 ton shortbed, The truck was nice looking for a Dodge.


I only got to maybe 75 mph so it was not too long a run. (in City limits)

Kinda cool but a 4x4 launch against a 2x4 launch is not very fair. I know, I have a old J20 with Quadratrac (fulltime 4x4) and even with its stock 360 2 bbl it will jump just about anything up to 25 or 30 mph, after that it runs out of gas so to speak. If you remove front driveshaft and lock tcase and try it, it spins rear tires badly while trying to launch. Lots of instant off idle torque in that old engine but nothing above 3000 rpm or so. My son wants me to put a warmed up AMC 403 4bbl in it and turn it into a real killer (and it would be) but it will never happen while I own it anyway. Edited by: snoman

FAIR?!?!?


WHO CARES! If he would have got beaten by that Dodge, you wouldn't hear him saying "It wasn't fair that he beat me because he used nitrous," or whatever.


On the street, ALL is fair. Run what ya brung, and if you don't wanna lose, don't run. Plus they rolled out of the light then went. . .


Dennis

Do you always run stacked, what level was the Hot OJ on?


Thanks,
Dennis





Dennis I am trying to find the right level to stack Attitude with Quad 215 on the street. I have been flipping between 0 - 3 on attitude. I was on level 1 for the run with the Hemi, Quad 215hp. The Juice alone would have taken that Hemi. Attitude Level 0 and 1 seems to have more low end for the street when stacked with Quad 215. More responsive feel (less lag) . I plan to track test this weekend.


As for 4-wheel on that run well......all's fair on the street....., for the record after a roll out and then when you nail it, this truck will smoke the tires in 2 wheel drive. Edited by: gmccall

FAIR?!?!?


WHO CARES! If he would have got beaten by that Dodge, you wouldn't hear him saying "It wasn't fair that he beat me because he used nitrous," or whatever.


On the street, ALL is fair. Run what ya brung, and if you don't wanna lose, don't run. Plus they rolled out of the light then went. . .


Dennis





Am I missing something? What in life is fair? Is it fair that I wasn't born rich or hung to my knees etc.

Oh I think snowman just means the Hemi would make a better showing with traction and I say, of course he would.


When I raced on the street (years ago) I quit using street tires when my much faster car got beat by a much slower car at the light with sticky tires. I could not catch that guy. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


Like they say run what you brung. On the street you better have traction. The race is over shortly.

i beat a shortbed reg. cab 1/2 ton hemi on level 4 with my lly on h2s by about 3 lengths, so i can just imagine his puzzled wtf look

gmccall,


Well you answered my question before I even asked it. Good info. My buddy has a Hemi (hammy as my sis-in-law calls it) Durango that he thinks is fast, I told him no way in he|| he can beat me. We haven't lined 'em up, circumstances prevail.


No doubt in my mind, but it's nice to have reassurance that I'd take him, he's a lot heavier than the 1/2 ton you beat. I'd have to bump up to level 4 for a run against one just to be sure (haven't run mine on 4 yet, waiting until I do the tranny), and take out the defuel on shifts. . . .might be worth the risk of smoking the tranny for a kill like that.


Nice kill,
Dennis

My uncle has a Hemi in a regular cab short bed 2wd with the 20in wheels. He's got a different intake and a Magnaflow exhaust. The truck weighed in at approx 4750lbs. The best he's run at the track is a 15.0. If your truck runs faster than that, you should have no problem at all.

I'd be a lot more worried about your uncle than that Durango. . . Big difference in weight. Sounds like your uncle's truck it pretty quick.


Thanks,
Dennis

Dennis,


I ran my Hot Juice 125 hp version for a year with no problems. There was defuel etc. but the truck ran 9.1s all else stock in the 1/8th. Don't know how the LLy's run, but I run all levels when it counts. Turn the level up. Attitude has a little protection in its program.

Oh I think snowman just means the Hemi would make a better showing with traction and I say, of course he would. When I raced on the street (years ago) I quit using street tires when my much faster car got beat by a much slower car at the light with sticky tires. I could not catch that guy. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


That is what I was trying to say, no traction, no go, especailly when you shut down at 70 or so. Not a fair race before you even start. I had a freind in early 70's that had a 1966 built up and blue printed 421 tri power GTO w/4.11 gears and a 4sp. In street tires just about anyone could take it because it could not hook up with stock tires all the way up through third gear. Add a pair of slicks though and it was a very serious high 12's street machine.

BTW, I am not beating the drum for the Hemi by any means just for a fairer match between any two vehical as a 4x4 vs a 2x4 in short drag is not fair by any stretch. Edited by: snoman

Guess them hemi's need to run slicks daily so us 4x4 diesels don't pick on them unfairly.

So was the other truck fighting for traction? With a juice box and no boost from the line I highly doubt you woulda had traction problems in 2wd and the result woulda been the same.


BTW you are correct, there isnt much on the street that can hang with a 4x4 launch with some boost built. Having traction is a big advantage and its really not fair but isnt that the freaking point!?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif Who the hell goes racing and says "boy, gee, I wish we woulda finished neck and neck, I want everyone to be equal"http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif No its more like "I want my ride to beat his ride by as much as possible"


4x4 launches with boost rule and I dont feel sorry for the poor suckers that want to line up next to me on the street. If they beat me then good for themhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

I know what you mean snowman.


I had a 1969 SS396 375hp Camero(bought new) that ran 12.7s at 113mph With Slicks and open headers. Car was awsome in its day. With street tires 1st and even second gear was almost usless. I ran across a true 283 chevy II one night that was running 456s and big slicks and I had my F-60 street tires. I like to have never caught that damn thing. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif What us old farts remember, huh


Edited by: gmccall

yea what ratlover said,


I really don't know about his traction though as he was on my right side and then behind me very quickly. Maybe some of that smoke I saw behind me was his tire smoke http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Guess them hemi's need to run slicks daily so us 4x4 diesels don't pick on them unfairly.

How you can compare a 4x4 launch fairly to a 2wd launch just blows my mind

From what I've seen, the Hemi can only spin it's tires when brake locking when taking off from a stop, even on my uncle's light 2wd. Every gas truck we've played around with can't just spin by taking your foot off the brake and stomping on the gas, whether it's a 5.3/6.0/8.1 GM, Dodge Hemi, or Ford V-10. It takes a hell of a truck to do this. These diesels with a +100hp box can, but they've got 100hp and over twice the torque over most recent gas trucks. This was also from a rolling start, so I'd have to say it had no chance of spinning. Just my .02.

Guess them hemi's need to run slicks daily so us 4x4 diesels don't pick on them unfairly.

How you can compare a 4x4 launch fairly to a 2wd launch just blows my mind


How can you compare a 7800# truck to a gasser and call that fair? Sorry Snoman, but the guy desrves to be beat if he is hotrodding around this guys neighborhood and snorting his pipes at him all of the time. If you picked a fight with Shaq and got beat up-it is your own fault. You show me a guy who plays/fights fair, and i'll show you an idiot.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

Scott,


Put it in level 4 and have a go at your Uncle. Beat one the other day that had intake, exhaust and chip. Level 6 was a killing. Oh, I was in 2 wheel drive by the way.

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%">
<T>
<TR>
<TD class=smText vAlign=top width="20%" bgColor=#fefefc>
Diesel Addict
http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_images/3_star_rating.gif

Group: Diesel Addict
Joined: 09 October 2003
Location: IL
Posts: 1079 </TD>
<TD class=text vAlign=top background="" bgColor=#fefefc>


So was the other truck fighting for traction? With a juice box and no boost from the line I highly doubt you woulda had traction problems in 2wd and the result woulda been the same.</TD></TR></T></TABLE>


A rolling start evens the playing field and the "Hemi" got his butt kicked!


4X4 or no the result is the same outpowered and outclouded er classed.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Great story!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif


Blake

4 wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, no fair, no fair.


run what you brung, .......

OK guys, my brother just bought a reg cab short box 4x4 hemi and he lives right next door. I know he's just itchin' to run my lly 4x4 cc?


So what do I need to take him? Doesn't have to be by much, even half a length would do. I'm stock right now and am thinking of getting the juice/attitude but since I don't wanna hurt the tranny, will level 3 do it? I wanna be sure before I line up with him so give me your input.

Even a 4x4 crew cab hemi launching in 4WD would not have had a chance. I agree with everyone else run what you brung and hope you brung enough!! Maybe it's the hemi guys fault, he should of bought a 4WD.

Well Dutchie


Go back to the power Forum and ask the question. You will surely get all the advice one can handle.


For the record though Level 3 may be enough, but it also depends on your truck. Is it a heavier CC dually longbed or a lighter EC Shortbed ? Remember he is also a 4X4 so the hole shot is out. You will own him though, just Juice it. Ain't much he can do about it if he stays near stock.

How you can compare a 4x4 launch fairly to a 2wd launch just blows my mind


Again, it isn't about fair, it's about beating the other guy. On the street, nothing matters but who wins. If I bet you $100.00 I can beat you, you better believe I'm gonna collect when you lose. If I bet you $100.00 and my truck breaks even though it's faster and you win, I fork over the money, no complaints, no crying that it isn't fair.


Get a clue. When you race, you and the guy you're racing must have to go buy brand new identical vehicles and run those to make it fair. . . bwaaaahaaahaa.


Dennis

Thanks GMCCALL, mines's a GMC 2500HD 4x4 cc short box, I think the juice alone wil be enough but I just wanna be sure.

It also depends on the altitude you run at. The higher you are the better. Your advantage grows with altitude. My 4D 4WD Dooley stock runs dead even with a standard cab short box Hemi up here. If I do ANY THING to my truck, I run away with no problems. The N/A Hemi looses much more power up here than I do because there is no compressor (charger) on it. The Extreme program taught one a (very hard and tasty) lesson the other night. I think he'll be sticking to racing Geos and such after that.

Super D,


You gotta give more details than that. . . http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Dennis

My, lly 4x4 ec short bed runs 14.9's with a mild boosted 4x4 launch in level 3 reg. juice defeulin 4-5 shift. So, if a stock hemi can run 14.9's then you might have a problem--but I think there are 15.5's stock. Guy a work just got a hemi 1/2 ton and been runnin his mouth--he was gonna go then found out I had the box--then he said he would only run if I disconnected it! yea right, my truck is like 16.5 without the juice!

Terrain Twister,


Ya, I've been wanting to run my uncle, but he knows what these Duramax trucks do with a box/programmer. He's rode in one with the Bullydog 155hp, and won't even think about racing him or me. (He knows I have the Six-Gun).


The Hemi seems to really get killed by weight. I've got another friend with an extended cab short box 3/4 ton Hemi. That truck runs a 16.2. I raced him with my C3 because he thought he would beat me-it wasn't even close.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

You show me a guy who plays/fights fair, and i'll show you an idiot.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif





http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Again, it isn't about fair, it's about beating the other guy. On the street, nothing matters but who wins. If I bet you $100.00 I can beat you, you better believe I'm gonna collect when you lose. If I bet you $100.00 and my truck breaks even though it's faster and you win, I fork over the money, no complaints, no crying that it isn't fair.


Get a clue. When you race, you and the guy you're racing must have to go buy brand new identical vehicles and run those to make it fair. . . bwaaaahaaahaa.
Dennis

To me it is about win fairly and it is not a real win unless you are "racing" against another SUV in 4x4 during run. Kinda like if you had a 1/2 mile or longer "race" when most deisels will redline around 105 (give or take) and a gasser will go well beyond that if speed limit is removed for ECM and walk away from deisel with stock gearing. Not fair? Maybe not but it proves the point that you can "stack" it for you or against you. Me, I do not drag racing anymore but if I ever had too I would make sure that the "race" was a running start and that it would top out at well past 100 mph to "stack" it in my favor with a gasser and in 2wd too because if you go for top speed even a good small block will out run a Dmax with stock gearing. It is all how you stack the deck as who wins the "hand". Edited by: snoman

Street racing is not about being fair. Ever hear the saying "Sleeper"? Getting from point A to point B quicker than the other guy. That is what it's all about.


It's about brute power and any way you put it to the pavement. Street racing was all about making your car look like nothing but go like hell. If you want to race you need to be ready, if not, you don't race. Pretty simple rules. The guy in the Hemi could have just as easily not taken the bait.


If you want a fair race, then race at a drag strip in a specific class. Thats were the rules apply Otherwise get in, sit back, buckle up and enjoy the ride.


That is what street racing is all about!

you can remove the speed limiter too in a duramax and run well past 100(stock is 98 or so with stock tires)


I'll be the first to admit, yup, the guy ran me down after 1.5 miles and finally past me becasue i ran outa rpm a mile agohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Scotty, just read about your bud in the 3/4 dodge, these guys watch way too many comercials. Way to do some educating http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif

Snowman,


I guess the next time one of those little rice boxes with the coffee can muffler and the stereo that goes "bump" in the night stages up next to my 2wd CC dooley I'd better make sure he's pulling about a 5 thousand pound trailer so it would be fair, right?

Again, it isn't about fair, it's about beating the other guy. On the street, nothing matters but who wins. If I bet you $100.00 I can beat you, you better believe I'm gonna collect when you lose. If I bet you $100.00 and my truck breaks even though it's faster and you win, I fork over the money, no complaints, no crying that it isn't fair.



Get a clue. When you race, you and the guy you're racing must have to go buy brand new identical vehicles and run those to make it fair. . . bwaaaahaaahaa.
Dennis




To me it is about win fairly and it is not a real win unless you are "racing" against another SUV in 4x4 during run. Kinda like if you had a 1/2 mile or longer "race" when most deisels will redline around 105 (give or take) and a gasser will go well beyond that if speed limit is removed for ECM and walk away from deisel with stock gearing. Not fair? Maybe not but it proves the point that you can "stack" it for you or against you. Me, I do not drag racing anymore but if I ever had too I would make sure that the "race" was a running start and that it would top out at well past 100 mph to "stack" it in my favor with a gasser and in 2wd too because if you go for top speed even a good small block will out run a Dmax with stock gearing. It is all how you stack the deck as who wins the "hand".





I don't know what you are trying to say.


I am a little confused. Are you saying it is not fair between a 1/2 ton gasser and a diesel or are you saying it is fair between the two?


With the commment of "How you stack the deck" it sounds like you are saying it is fair what ever you race with.

Now gentlemen. My post is about a street race, period.


I have street raced for over 40 years. You may see the guy again or not. You will not know who has what if you never see the guy again and the only thing that matters is DID YOU WIN. Street racing is "run what you brung" and nothing else. There are no rules and fairness has no factor regarding your ride. Its getting from A to B ahead of the next guy.


The only unwritten rule that might be considered in street racing is whether you get caught jumping the start. For the record it's very hard to have an even start while you are rolling.


If you don't street race you may not understand the unwritten rules of the "sport".

gmccall http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif

I think another unwritten rule is dont be a putz, win or lose still be cool to the other guy. Never understood the bad looks thing from the losers or an ungracious winner. A http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif is ussualy the norm

Way to put it gmccall.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

How'd an extra 2000 lbs on the Dodge sound for fair?

From what I've seen, the Hemi can only spin it's tires when brake locking when taking off from a stop, even on my uncle's light 2wd. Every gas truck we've played around with can't just spin by taking your foot off the brake and stomping on the gas, whether it's a 5.3/6.0/8.1 GM, Dodge Hemi, or Ford V-10. .
I must beg to differ on this quote I have a 98 K2500 Chevy with a Vortec 7400, 4.10 gears with locker and FAT 33"x12.50x16.5" tires that I can break loose easily by just smashing the gas. It was a damn riot to drive with the little pizza cutters she rolloed off the lot with. Its stock in the power department too.

U seem to forget the new vehicles have torque management to cut power on takeoff.
The LLY cut power for all of low gear and OD.
From what I hear Wester's is doing some good things w/ removing the TM on gas vehicles and it makes a good improvement.

I ran my buddies Hemi a while back with the juice on 4 and as you can imagine it was a joke. But then I also ran him with the juice on 0 (I know it still adds like 15hp or something like that) and I had him until around 1000ft then he finally passed me. I wasn't to impressed at all with his truck.

BTW his truck is an ext. cab short box 4x4 and neither of us had any traction probs.

How you can compare a 4x4 launch fairly to a 2wd launch just blows my mindthe 2wd ers shouldnt bring a knife to a gun fight......good kill:ro)

SNOMAN,

If you're trying to argue that the race would get closer as the speeds went up. Then you're off your rocker. GMCCALL is a friend of mine and a competitor of mine as well. Greg's truck ran an 8.38 in the 1/8th mile and has more to be had. Needless to say his top end is there. Also Greg's truck just like my own (see sig) should pull pretty good to 120-125 with NO PROBLEM. Mine with short tires hit 124 on the dyno still making good power.

I'll be glad to run someone in a gasser on the top end. Say a 50-60 punch to whenever they realize I've already shut down because I've spanked them. The Hemi truck never stood a chance, period. I've street raced for only a few years now, but one thing I learned early on RUN WHATCHA BRUNG and GO HARD or GO HOME. That's the the facts of it. Fair - who really cares. I run a CC LB Dually 2WD that weighs over 8500lbs. Now tell me whats fair about that. But I don't complain about it, I just do my best to figure out how to get it to hook up and how to get enough power to make up for the weight. Those are the facts of life. Live with it.

Greg good kill and guys lets keep the stories rolling. I'll even start a separate thread and put up a link for it here if you want.

Later,
Wes
(903) 355-4475

HEMI translated means 'Half'
Half the Fuel Economy
Half The life expectancy
Half The power.

My truck is stock. LOL. we just loaded some extra 1's and 0's in the ECM, you know the one's that GM took out when they released the DMX to the public?

I just ran into the perfect victim tonight as a matter of fact. He was driving a huge Ram regular cab with what has to be 38's or maybe even 40's. "HEMI NUTS" plastered all over the top of his windshield and on his plates. The exhaust was terribly obnoxious even to me and although he was trying to find a spot to park (in a parking lot) he apparently loved to stab at the throttle every 3 seconds as if there was actually bite underneath the hood to back up the bark. I just hope I can catch him at a stop light sometime soon. I want to see if his fog lights can cut through my black smoke. I'll be sure to ask if he's got a Hemi at the next light... if he doesn't pull up behind me with his tail between his legs.

I Hate Hemi's, Nuff Said

Those hemi's ain't sh*t! I left a half-ton one way back there in a cloud of smoke with just a Predator and a sixgun on 4. I don't even have exhaust, yet. I didn't think he was really even trying until I heard him nail it. Just a quick blast to maybe 70, looked up, and the nose of the hemi was just coming through the smoke cloud. 'Course, I limped the tranny 2 blocks later, playing in triumph.

Now gentlemen. My post is about a street race, period.


I have street raced for over 40 years. You may see the guy again or not. You will not know who has what if you never see the guy again and the only thing that matters is DID YOU WIN. Street racing is "run what you brung" and nothing else. There are no rules and fairness has no factor regarding your ride. Its getting from A to B ahead of the next guy.


The only unwritten rule that might be considered in street racing is whether you get caught jumping the start. For the record it's very hard to have an even start while you are rolling.


If you don't street race you may not understand the unwritten rules of the "sport".
BINGO. :)


Next time, to "make it fair" (LOL) - give him 5 and the bust, and THEN whoop his ass!

Terrain Twister,


Ya, I've been wanting to run my uncle, but he knows what these Duramax trucks do with a box/programmer. He's rode in one with the Bullydog 155hp, and won't even think about racing him or me. (He knows I have the Six-Gun).


The Hemi seems to really get killed by weight. I've got another friend with an extended cab short box 3/4 ton Hemi. That truck runs a 16.2. I raced him with my C3 because he thought he would beat me-it wasn't even close.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif 16.2 is about what I expect to see out of a stock "big bad 345hp Hemi." Grossly overrated IMO... my STOCK (as in TOTALLY STOCK) '02 EC Z71 with the 5.3 (rated at 285hp) and 3.73s only went 15.77, and I would KILL Hemis on the street OR at the track. The 345hp Hemi is nothing more than another one of Dodge's fantastic marketing gimmicks.

I beat up on some kid in a riced out Acura RSX Type-S a few months ago. Carbon fiber hood, big aluminum wing, giant monster tach, fart can, who knows what else. We both rolled around a corner and hit it from about 30. He was definitely trying to get around me, I could hear his car winding up over my truck. By the time I hit 80 I had about 15 cars on him. I can dig up the story and post it if anybody's interested.

When I told the story on another board... the response I got was, "Well spend the same $40k on the Acura that you did on your truck and THEN we'll see who wins!" LOL. There's always whiners out there. Whatever anybody says - you KNOW it deflated his ego a little bit! Nice kill :)

When I told the story on another board... the response I got was, "Well spend the same $40k on the Acura that you did on your truck and THEN we'll see who wins!" LOL. There's always whiners out there. Whatever anybody says - you KNOW it deflated his ego a little bit! Nice kill :)

Have them spend $40K on an Acura and see who can pull a 10K trailer up a hill faster. I'd say the $40K on a duramax truck is money much better spent.
:ro)

Hey gmccall,

You are an insperation for us all!!! I am only too humbled with my stock truck. You are forcing me to buy a tuner!!! You don't by any chance have a spare tuner hanging around for a poor fellow to borrow??? BWWWAAAAA

See you at the next GTG!! ):h

MaxRock

MaxRock

We're having another Dyno Day/Drag Strip Day in the early spring. Also during the winter we'll be hitting the local tracks. If you're going to make it then look me up and I'll loan you whatever tuner you want borrow. I have 2 Power Pups sitting in my truck at all times. 1 has lower tunes and the 155hp tune activated. The other has lower tunes (55-75-95) and the XXX tune installed in the top slot. Let me know if you're going to make it some time and we'll try em out.

ITS THESE STORIES THAT KEEP ME LOCKED TO THE COMPUTER SCREEN FOR HOURS JUST LAUGHING MY A$$ OFF, WISHING I WAS AT HOME TO DRIVE MY TRUCK AND GIVE BACK TO YOU GUYS WHAT YOU HAVE GIVEN ME...A SORE A$$ CRAMPED UP GUT FROM LOL):h ):h ):h ):h ):h ):h ):h ):h ):h ):h THX A BUNCH!! AS TO THE SNOMAN?? SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND QUIT RAININ ON OUR PARRADE. LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE SAID A "SLEEPER" IS THE BEST PART OF STREET RACING SOME PUNK, IN THIS CASE, A JERK OFF WHO THOUGHT A "HEMI"-:t WAS THE WAY TO GO BECAUSE ALL OF HIS FRIENDS TOLD HIM WHAT A NICE TRUCK HE HAS,JUST PLAIN LOST NO QUESTIONS ASKED,HANDS DOWN!!! I CANT WAIT TO GET HOME AND DO THE SAME TO EVERY RICER/HEMI/GAS POT DRIVIN SUCKER THERE IS THAT TAKES THE BAIT.:ro) KEEP THE STORIES ROLLIN BOYS,IM STARTIN TO GET USED TO THE PAIN....I THINK IM EVEN STARTIN TO LIKE IT:eek:

Hey gmccall,

You are an insperation for us all!!! I am only too humbled with my stock truck. You are forcing me to buy a tuner!!! You don't by any chance have a spare tuner hanging around for a poor fellow to borrow??? BWWWAAAAA

See you at the next GTG!! ):h

MaxRock
MaxRock ! I must have missed your post here,
Thanks for the flowers. I could always pull one of the boxes for a fellow runner to try. Yep you bet.

Meet up with Wes if you can though as you can drive home with one of his.

Waiting on the next GTG
G McCall

If it don't have 426 stamped on it, it's not a HEMI! I can't wear my old trusty "Hemi" hat out in public anymore without some convenience store clerk wingnut asking me about how bad those new hemi's are. Ya they are real bad, so bad they only install them in trucks and 4 doors! I love the old school Mopars but those 5.7's are an embarrasement in my book.:o

As far as stop light sparring goes, there is only 1 rule.

"All's fair in love and war!" :ro)

For 2005, Dodge will make the SRT-10 in a crew cab short box automatic 2wd. Horsepower and torque remain the same as the original SRT-10 regular cab manual transmission 2wd.