: Is BFGoodrich crazy, or just me?
DmaxCC6spd 09-09-2004, 08:16 PM As a firm believer in the more is better theory, I swapped a set of Firestones on my truck. Let me finish before flaming me! I wanted the 265/75/16 tires and white letters. This is the look I call "the way the factory should have done it". Extra capacity was an added bonus as they are rated 3400 lbs as compared with the factory 245/75/16 at 3000 lbs. I got the set of 4 for $50 from a friend's donor truck.
Now that Ford and Chevy and I think Dodge offer a truck with a 265/75/16 tire in a load range "E" (3400 lbs), it would seem reasonable that BFGoodrich would offer their All Terrain tire in that size and load as a replacement. Makes sence, so they don't do it?
There may be better tires out there, but my experience with the All Terrain on other vehicle has made me a believer, and I would rather spend my money on a known good tire, rather than an untested tire. I may be enlightened by some other tire which will be the Bridgestone Dueler Revo unless BFG gets moving soon.
Anyone have any logic to BFG's lack of tire in this size and load?
Motohead 09-09-2004, 09:53 PM Dmaxcc6spd
Funny you mention it. I just went and ordered the Revos today, my first choice would have been the BFG a/t KO. But I do not want to go form E to D. The Revos I ordered are 265 75 16 E load range. If BFG would have made the a/t KO in an "E" I would have bought it. I know the 265 75 16 "D" carries 3042lbs at 65psi same as the original 245 75 16 "E" at 80psi.
mahalkita 09-10-2004, 01:06 AM Try the Terra Grappler from Nitto. 3415 lbs, in loadrange E and much cheaper than the BF Goodrich. Couple of guys on this forum running Nittos ...
Micheal Tomac 09-10-2004, 03:19 AM All Terrain 265x75x16 load range E tires:
Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo
BF Goodrich Rugged Trail T/A
Pirelli Scorpion A/T
Toyo Open Country A/T
Michelin LTX M/S
Firestone Steeltex A/T
Dunlop Radial Rover RVXT
Goodyear Wrangler AT/SEdited by: mtomac
dmaxalliTech 09-10-2004, 09:36 AM I have the BFG's in D range and the tire rating is the same as most E rated tires. I tow confortably with mine.
DmaxCC6spd 09-10-2004, 09:54 AM DMaxAlliTech: I know the load rating of the 265 BFG AT is the same as the factory tire, but, gasp, I may overload the truck slightly. I may need to put a 425 gallon water tank in the back. 425 gallons of water = roughly 3400 lbs or slightly over the factory payload. I have confidence that the truck will do fine, but would like some additional assurance from the tires. Its my understanding that frames and axles and wheels are up to the task, but it will work the springs and tires.
This is my reasoning for the additional load rating.
Dave Ski 09-10-2004, 10:42 AM Ya'll ever hear of a 'safety factor' ? Normally, when a manufacturer rates a component for a particular capacity, the item will actually handle a lot more.
Plus, it would be reasonable to assume that each rear tire will only be carrying half the weight of the additional payload. So if you really want to be sure the tires are up to task, weigh the truck empty to see how much each rear tire is carrying (empty the front tires carry more considering the weight of the engine), then add HALF the 3400 pound payload. Still might be over the 3400 pound capacity of the tire but I would be surprised if they blow out when loaded to 3402 pounds.
Chevyfreek 09-10-2004, 12:06 PM Nitto does make a 265/75/R16 "E" tire as well. I am currently running them on my 2500HD. They are a good tire and perform well, but they seem to be wearing quite fast for me. I drive over 500 miles a week and see a lot of highway miles and I think this is why they are wearing so quick. They are running at higher tread temperatures for longer periods of time in my case. I have almost 18,000 miles on them now and I am guessing they will go 35,000 miles give or take. So I will be trying something different next year I think. I would like a tire that will last over 50,000mi and these will not as far as I can tell, right now. I really like the look and performance of the Nitto's though without a doubt. Just not the tread life.
The BFG AT's are a great tire and I may just break down and get a set of those when the time comes. They are pricey, but they last from my previous experience with them. Not on my current truck though. A different vehicle. Maybe BFG will release them in and "E" range in the future...
GMC2500HD 09-10-2004, 01:59 PM I think we should all start emailing BFG and maybe they will get the idea and do something about this. Just my .02....
Motohead 09-11-2004, 10:06 PM If you go from an E to a D good luck with your insurance company if you need them. Toyo makes a 4ply tire rated at 3086lbs but if you call or email them they will tell you this tire is considered a misapplication. Volume of air gives you weight capacity but contruction of the tire gives you stability...E is based on 10 ply and D is based on 8 ply. Consider hitting some debri on the interstate that cuts a tire or causes a blow out...will your insurance cover resulting damage? The D tire is contructed different than an E tire.
That being said, I see all sorts of 3/4 ton's and 1 ton's on the road and on this forum with Bfg's in D load range. My guess is they will probably never have a problem. To me the safe bet is to stay with E load range.
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