: Spacers on a Dump?
thumbsmasher 03-03-2007, 01:29 PM Hello Duallyers.
I'm getting a new '07 D-max with a dump. The ridiculously small (not to mention crappy) 215 tires that come stock are the first thing I'm going to replace. I don't think I need a really big tire -- 235 would probably be fine. I've been searching this forum and found that I needed to give Fred a call. He told me I want the 2" steel spacers he makes. I think this would put the 235s a little far apart, but he said it would be fine and allow me to upsize in the future if I wanted and not have to cut down the studs.
What do you all think? Since this is a dump truck, it will be loaded down to the max. Will the spacers compromise strength or payload capacity at all? Would a bigger tire be better? I'm thinking I want to keep the tire small for better gearing given that I'm going to be hauling heavy loads not to mention towing my 8,000 lb backhoe. Also, the computer on this truck can't be reprogrammed for different tire sizes without an aftermarket chip, so smaller tires would keep the speedo/odo more accurate.
I'm totally new to duallies and heavy towing, so I need all the advice I can get.
Thanks in advance.
juice 03-03-2007, 02:25 PM Hello Duallyers.
I'm getting a new '07 D-max with a dump. The ridiculously small (not to mention crappy) 215 tires that come stock are the first thing I'm going to replace. I don't think I need a really big tire -- 235 would probably be fine. I've been searching this forum and found that I needed to give Fred a call. He told me I want the 2" steel spacers he makes. I think this would put the 235s a little far apart, but he said it would be fine and allow me to upsize in the future if I wanted and not have to cut down the studs.
What do you all think? Since this is a dump truck, it will be loaded down to the max. Will the spacers compromise strength or payload capacity at all? Would a bigger tire be better? I'm thinking I want to keep the tire small for better gearing given that I'm going to be hauling heavy loads not to mention towing my 8,000 lb backhoe. Also, the computer on this truck can't be reprogrammed for different tire sizes without an aftermarket chip, so smaller tires would keep the speedo/odo more accurate.
I'm totally new to duallies and heavy towing, so I need all the advice I can get.
Thanks in advance.Had a 1999 chevy 3500 dump,came with 225/75/16d.I moved up to 235/85/16 without the spacers,the tires rubbed when loaded heavy but never had a problem.I just dont trust them spacers yet.Had the truck for 5 years and never had a tire problem.
simelliot 03-03-2007, 03:57 PM Running Fred's 2 inch on an 06 3500 DRW D/A with 235/85/16E. Outer wheels will stick out about 1/4 inch from outer fender. I haul over 18K 100,000 plus miles per year.....NEVER had a problem. Fred makes em correct and solid!!!!! You will have no worries.
rutwad 03-04-2007, 08:39 PM Hello Duallyers.
I'm getting a new '07 D-max with a dump, it will be loaded down to the max. not to mention towing my 8,000 lb backhoe.
I'm totally new to duallies and heavy towing, so I need all the advice I can get.
Thanks in advance.
Sounds like you may need a bgger truck. How big is the dump body?
thumbsmasher 03-05-2007, 03:25 PM Sounds like you may need a bgger truck. How big is the dump body?
The dump body is 2-3 yards. A bigger truck might be ideal, but I think for a lot of what I'm going to be doing -- landscaping, tree planting, small excavation jobs, etc. -- the one ton will be adequate. Plus the smaller size will be a big advantage at times, and it may mean the difference between being able to store the truck and backhoe at my house or having to rent storage space (It is technically against town ordances to store work equipment at my house, but it's only enforced on a complaint basis, so if the neighbors are cool, which I think they will be, then I'm okay. The medium duty dump truck, however, might be pushing my luck.)
I'm going to order a set of Fred's 2" steel spacers later today or tomorrow unless someone here chimes in and gives me a good reason not to use them for my application. Thanks
tysmith 03-06-2007, 08:56 PM Once you see fred's spacers, you'll have no worries about loading up. These aren't cheapies off Ebay. They maintain hub-centricity, so no worries.
The 4" is huge stability wise on a chassis-cab, as well. I have them on my 84" CA chassis-cab with an 11' utility body. I weigh 10,400 day to day, with nothing in it! No problems here.
Fletcho 03-09-2007, 12:48 AM If your going to load the one ton and drag your backhoe around with you may want to consider a few other upgrades.....What backhoe do you have that weighs 8000 lbs, mine is 9 tons. If your going to ask, I use my Mack to haul it. I have a one ton dump too but its a gasser, it has trouble pulling my track hoe and that only weighs about 13,000lbs. Anyway, be safe and remember, there are all sorts of idiots on the road that pay no attention to what your driving and what your pulling.........
ticki2 03-09-2007, 06:03 PM For those of you with Fred's 2" spacers on the rear of your duelles , can you post a picture . I would like to see how they address the hub-centric situation . I have a set of the old Correct Track spacers and there is no lip for the rim to rest on , are Freds the same . I ran them on my '94 2500 for 100000 mi and had no trouble . I am thinking of using them on a 1 ton dump , what do you think . Thanks
thumbsmasher 03-10-2007, 11:07 AM What backhoe do you have that weighs 8000 lbs
John Deere 110.
Thanks for the replies. I went ahead and ordered the spacers. Looking forward to getting the truck and start working it!
confuzed_guy 03-13-2007, 06:36 PM For those of you with Fred's 2" spacers on the rear of your duelles , can you post a picture . I would like to see how they address the hub-centric situation . I have a set of the old Correct Track spacers and there is no lip for the rim to rest on , are Freds the same . I ran them on my '94 2500 for 100000 mi and had no trouble . I am thinking of using them on a 1 ton dump , what do you think . Thanks
Who's Fred and yes, please, some one post a pic! :D
tysmith 03-13-2007, 10:15 PM Not that it does any good...
I just swapped tires on Saturday. Could have taken pics...
The hub bore of the spacer matches the axle perfectly, and the 'lip' just makes up the gap that increases as the axle tapers towards the outside.
Fred Goeske, at www.wheeladapter.com
Great guy with a great product.
thumbsmasher 03-20-2007, 08:56 AM I just got the new truck yesterday. I found a tire shop right near the dealer that sold me a nice almost new set of 235 BFG ATs and bought the 215 General POS tires for $50 a piece. The 235s were barely kissing in back at full pressure. I drove very cautiously home about 30 miles away and when I got there the tires had a gap of about 1/4". I installed the spacers and there was no visible damage to the tires.
The spacers are very nice. Mine are the 2" steel variety. They fit the hubs perfectly. Fred makes a high quality product.
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