OK- heres the 2 contenders...


2004.5 LLY 2500HD CCSB w/edge-attitude-MBRP- AFE stage 1 intake..attitude on #4 and 285's.


2003 2500HD CCSB 6.0 w/Wester garage 87/91 octane tune, de-screened MAFS,UPD intake and a 160 t-stat. and 285's.


Who's gonna win???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif -BJ


From a roll-


race #1 LLY on level #3 = 6.0* and pulling away


race #2 LLY on level #4 defueling 4-5 only = draw...sorta*


* I was down to a 1/4 tank of 92 octane for this race....we ran from 5-10 mph on an on ramp with the LLY in front- at the drop of JustifiedHD's hand I hit it...than I had to back off otherwise I would have trunked the oil burner...I waited for the turbo to spool up and then I hit it again...I stayed on his rear bumper (literally I was 2' behind him) to 80+ mph when we entered the highway and freaked out a little old man in a econo car- Ryan went left I went right and we let off at around 85 and I was basically next to him.


Next race is from a dig on level #5- stay tuned-BJ





OK from a dig-


race #1 - LLY on level #5 VS 6.0 running 87 octane*= LLY by many truck lengths


race #2 - LLY on #4 VS 6.0* = LLY by a truck+


race #3 - LLY on #5 VS 6.0* 70-100 mph roll-on = LLY by a truck length.


*92 octane is worth .5 second in a qtr mile... WE will rerace when I run the 87 out and refill with 92.


Epiloge- Ryans truck is quicker than mine most/all the time (push button HP) BUT on the highway doing roll-ons...if I get my rpm up (2 nd gear at 70-75 mph I can match level 5 on roll-on speed) but from a dig I have to get "ready to race" with good gas,1/4 tank of fuel,strip a few pounds out of the truck etc. to be competitive. And as far as towing...I would light my truck on fire and burn it to the ground to have Ryans-LOL-BJ





Ryan...next race is from 100-120 mph OK!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gifEdited by: Big John

Diesel............ the diesel "should" win......... if everything was perforemd correctly.


BTW.......take the K&N out, install paper or pro-guard 7. My .02 worth.

Yup.... what he said

Easy win for the Diesel.

I gotta a dude at work with a brand new Hemi that swears he can take me--actually wants to bet a weeks pay! I think I found a way to raise my suncoast level 3 $! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

race him for sure - and let us know http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Well its already happened...just wanted some "predictions" from the oil burners...BJ


BTW- the LLY is a forum member- and my 6.0 has outran 2 "SS" 1500's on the freeway already (70-110+ mph)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gifEdited by: Big John

Well its already happened...just wanted some "predictions" from the oil burners...BJ


BTW- the LLY is a forum member- and the 6.0 has outran 2 "SS" 1500's on the freeway already (70-110+ mph)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif





The diesel should beat it, but enough already just tell us! The gasser won didn't it??

First of all I have an afe stage 1 intake, not a k&n. On level 4, defueling 4-5 shifts, low boost on level 5, MBRP cat back exhaust, egr disconnected. We went from a roll on down an on ramp, hit it at 5mph, he damn near ran into my tailgate, all I could see was his bug deflector, we shot out on to the freeway, almost ran over a little old man in a plymoth sundance, and up to about 85mph we were close. Big John had to avoid the little old man because he would have ran him over if he followed me through the gap, so he had to let up, go to the outside and hit it again, we both crested the hill at the same time! It is a VERY FAST 6.0L!!! This is one of my best friends and I have driven it alot. I've beat a lot of cars in it that I shouldn't have. I think from a dig he's done thoughhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif, if I didn't have to wait for turbo to spool up it would be different! When we race again... If its still close... I'll bump her up tp level 5 and defuel no shifts... If were still close I guess the Suncoast st.III will need to go in then the water/meth and nitrous... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif Just kidding, we'll keep you posted... GO OIL BURNER!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

JHD.....I might have to run 91 octane next time...instead of 87...LOL-BJ





BTW does "sneaky PETE" mean anything???

Strainge..........My buddy's 6L only ran 16.7 in the 1/4 and my truck runs 14.2. Not even close.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Edited by: 1bad01

BTW does "sneaky PETE" mean anything???





That would explain everything.

Big Jon- I'm your Huckleberry. Why, you look like you seen a ghost.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Looks like we got a friendly competition with the local gassers huh Ryan. Thats OK, I got a whoopin that comes in 2 stageshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif

amric...I swap intake manifolds after each race.......(sneaky petes mount to the bottom of the intake manifold..ie. "sneaky")


dstrbd....Pack a lunch.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif


BTW..thats one of my favorite/movies and lines.


disclaimer- I'm not trying to piss in anyones Wheeties...just having some fun with my buddy Ryan...AND in NO WAY do I think for 1 second my truck can pull better than his (he's pulling my 27' enclosed snowmachine trailer out west this winter)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Ryan you will need a shot of nitrous to eliminate that turbo lag off the line...I think I will have a truck or 2 to 60 mph and you will be playing "catch the gasser" BUUUUT you have a major problem at 100 mph....and I dont-BJEdited by: Big John

I am driving 6.0 gasser while my truck is in the shop and there is no way the gasser would run with my LLY. I had 400-500 Lbs in the bed tonight and there is no comparison! When I tried the early Quad module on level 3, I guarantee no chipped, cold aired 6.0 could keep up. No way, no how, 4.10's might help some but not enough. I would suspect the Edge set to level 5 would make similar poower but I haven't tried one yet. Set the Edge to 5, build some boost before launching and put the 6.0 on the trailer!

Hey Big John,


I can respect the little iron block 6.0L. It's the smaller version of what's in my Trans Am 422ci LS-1. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Here's your road map though. A slightly tweaked 6.0L in a 2003 Chevy 1500 is currently running a T-76 custom turbo kit with a 75hp shot out of the hole for a 10.91 sec at 122 mph.


http://www.1320video.com/vids/fastesttruck.wmv


I know I shouldn't give these secrets away here but if you don't want to tow, this setup will give you the go. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


Here's some good videos of Parish's truck for you guys that like to whoop on cars. They give you a good idea of what the gassers use that extra 3,000 RPMs for. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


http://www.1320video.com/vids/parishvsstang.wmv


http://www.1320video.com/vids/sr6.20.wmv


Rick

Racehemi- MY truck is'nt stock....and all I know is what I can do against Ryans truck (which is as fast or faster than yours) and all the PSD Fords I can mop up.(BTW the 285's hurt my acceleration...I just need to reinstall my 245's for a solid bump in ET and I do have 4.10's).


MIBM- nice videos...there was a time when I ran 10.85's at 125 on DOTs in a 1971 camaro...so I know my truck is'nt fast...just fun to drive-BJEdited by: Big John

DSTRBD- I think next time I'm up I'll have to pick up one of those Bully Dog powerpups, stack the dmax and then go racing, screw the tranny... we'll fix it when it breaks!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

JEEZ...I wish I could-


1) choose from 5 power levels at touch of a button


2) stack programs for even more power


3) fuel or de-fuel shift points


4) kick oil burners butt...OH wait I already do that-LOLhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif-BJEdited by: Big John

how biga gain from your bud pete riding shotgun?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

BTW if you run no defuel you are probably going to piss off the allison somthing fierce, and if you havent trained it yet to shift with no defuel or with the level cranked up expect to lose a bit during the slipp'n slid'n shifts.

The NOS was a just a joke...theres no sneaky pete under my intake manifold- "IF" I was running NOS it would be 150 shot not a sissy sneaky pete-BJ

...I stayed on his rear bumper (literally I was 2' behind him) to 80+ mph when we entered the highway and freaked out a little old man in a econo car- Ryan went left I went right and we let off at around 85 and I was basically next to him.





amusing, and people feel sorry for these nuts when they roll their trucks because they are driving like idiots on the freeways, putting other peoples lives at risk. why don't you do this at the local race track or deserted highways? I lost my best friend and family a few years ago because two idiots were doing basically the same thing on the freeway near our home and one bozo didn't swerve far enough and killed all 5 immediately when his raised truck went over their small car. don't you kids have more sense?


I'm disgusted at some of the stupid antics that are posted here and other seem to support...

One of the sweetest trucks of all time: 2001 GMC C3 Lingefelter Edition. This truck came with a supercharger and intercooler sitting on top of a 6.0L 325hp motor already. With all-wheel drive, it was a rocket. I think they sold for a little over $50K. I'm sure you won't find any in the auto shopper.

Duraxmatom- I wont deny what we did was foolish- but short of the one car we drove around we were on the on ramp (all by ourselves) for a majority of the race- the next race will be at the river bottoms (a basically deserted 2 lane road).http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif


BTW- the speed limit on that highway is 75 so we were only speeding by 10 mph or so...not really a "130 mph blast" most bikes/street cars are capable of-BJ


Ryan...I wont mention the Corvette..it might incriminate you-LOL.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

OK- heres the 2 contenders...


2004.5 LLY 2500HD CCSB w/edge-attitude-MBRP- AFE stage 1 intake..attitude on #4 and 285's.


2003 2500HD CCSB 6.0 w/Wester garage 87/91 octane tune, de-screened MAFS,UPD intake and a 160 t-stat. and 285's.


Who's gonna win???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif -BJ


race #1 LLY on level #3 = 6.0 and pulling away


race #2 LLY on level #4 defueling 4-5 only = draw...sorta*


* we ran from 5-10 mph on an on ramp with the LLY in front- at the drop of JustifiedHD's hand I hit it...than had to back off otherwise I would have trunked the oil burner...I waited for the turbo to spool up and then I hit it again...I stayed on his rear bumper (literally I was 2' behind him) to 80+ mph when we entered the highway and freaked out a little old man in a econo car- Ryan went left I went right and we let off at around 85 and I was basically next to him.


Next race is from a dig on level #5- stay tuned-BJ

I am calling major BULL SH*T on this one!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

My previous truck was a 2001 Chevy 2500hd EC LB 2WD 6.0L auto/4.10's

With Superchip tuning on 93 octane the could do a best of 16.4 in the 1/4 mile.

I later installed a Powerdyne supercharger, upgrade pulley running 8 psi boost, Westers 93 octane tuning customized to the Powerdyne, and a transgo shift kit for the 4L80E. The truck couldn't pull its a$$ out of a wet paper sack! Sucked for pulling the 5er, still had to run 3rd at 3k rpms at 60mph. Best in 1/4 mile was 15.38 @ 90 mph.

My Duramax with just the Regular Juice Attitude in level 5 runs a 14.9 @ 95 mph in the 1/4 with defuel on everything, no boost launch. Level 4 runs 15.2 in the 1/4. BTW, the 6.0L launched at 2k rpms and 4 lbs boost!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

Major BS be dumped here!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

PS. Piston slap at 42k miles was worse than the diesel clatter!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Edited by: cdhd2001

cdhd2001- I cant speak for your 6.0 and you cant speak for mine....Ryan has driven my truck on many occasions and he was nervous if his mods would be enough (when it was stock I could stomp it like a red headed step child)- NO BS here..on level 3 I pulled Ryan, level 4 it was a wash- we are going to race from a dig on level 5 and let ya know-BJ

Big John,

I still say BS. I spent over $4k (actually about $6k if you factor in tuning) on that pos 6.0L. I know what a 6.0L will and won't do (in a 2500hd).

Now, if your 6.0L was in a 1/2 ton with either the Radix supercharger or a 150+ shot of NOS, then you could whip the Duramax. Weight kills the speed of small blocks. BTW, the 6.0L weighed in at 6,250 lbs. The Duramax weighs in a 7,600 lbs.

Happy day dreaming!

Ps. Tell your diesel buddy to "really" floor it next time! If your ego can handle it?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Edited by: cdhd2001

Also make sure the juiced truck is completely warm. 187 degrees or more. It will not run full power unless it is completely warm.

Also make sure the juiced truck is completely warm. 187 degrees or more. It will not run full power unless it is completely warm.


That is probably what happened!

I think dyno sheets or 1/4 mile times at the track are in order.

Yeah, that Pete makes all the difference. He sure is sneaky.

Yeah but he said he was joking about running the sneaky little nitrous system, besides even if he was using it, it's so small that he wouldn't get much out of it for very long.


I'm always one that likes to see it before I believe it! I can't say the 6.0 wouldn't whoop up on someone who couldn't drive there truck http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif, but I think you both need to get down to the track and post some time slips. That way we can see if JustifiedHD can really drive his truck!!!


Nothing personal but I can't see any other way 6.0 with MINIMAL mods would beat a juiced d-max like that!!! http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif......Unless there is more to the 6.0 than what you posted.


JustifiedHD..........Racing 101, When you and your buddie BJ race from a dig, here's what you need to do: Put your truck in 4wd high (That's the little button on the left side just under the 4wd low button), put your truck in Tow/Haul mode (Thats the button on the end of your shifter), Make sure your Attitude is reading 3 under the level selector (you shouldn't need anything higher), then you stand on your brakes and mash the gas about half way untill you start building boost and your RPM's reach somewhere between 2000-2500, let go of the brake and put the petal to the wood at the same time. If he can still beat you then go to the nearest dealership and find out what the hell is wrong with your truck!!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


LOCK IT AND ROCK IT!!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif

Ummm.... Ryans truck was running alot longer than mine- he was up to running temp when he came over to my house much less when we raced (BTW he knows the edge defaults to the stock programing when cold)- http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif


IBDmax'n- We never went from a dig..always slow roll-ons...SOOO if I run him out the back door on #3 and almost rear end him on #4...he should take it to the dealer??? And Ryan has a 12 second VETTE...he knows how to race.


ORRR is it possible that a 6.0 gasser with the right combination of mods really is a contender???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


BTW- this has been a fun thread...I guess I need to video tape the race-LOL-BJEdited by: Big John

great read guys - get it on video for us, i would love to watch that and have some fun with it, regardless of what happens

What you need is to get your ass to the race track and post some time slips. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

I think we will just hit the local strip (2 lane river bottom drag strip "Black Dog International Raceway") tomarrow and see what happens from a dig.


GUYS I just wanted to have some fun with this and some of you are taking it way to seriously- Ryan and I raced and thats what happened- period. NOW if my truck is "supposed" to lose no matter what than I cant help that- and since Ryans runs plenty strong (he has outrun several warmed up PSD Fords and has played with some cars at the lights and won) so I dont think he needs to go the dealer.


Maybe....some of your trucks just arent as fast as you think they are?? but what do I know about fast...I drive a 6L gasser...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif-BJ

LOL.........BJ, I was trying to be a smart a** with the whole racing 101 thing, didn't you find it funny?? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


I know you haven't raced from a dig yet, but your posts are telling me that you plan on it so I just wanted to make sure JustifiedHD was going to rip your doors off!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I run the old 90hp juice with a old Van Aaken box with the timing removed so the total HP gain is less than 115 over stock and I had the stock muffler removed. I can pull a 14.802 in the 1/4 waaaaaay up here in the clouds (Colorado).


Your friends truck should be able to beat mine with the juice he's running. So do you think your 6.0 would blow my doors off running a 14.802??? I think that if you could, you should start selling the power package your running on your truck for a whole lot more than you paid for it: De-screened MAFS, 91 octane tune, 160 degree stat=14 second truck. I think you'd be rich!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif LMAO


Go race in a controlled inviroment where you aren't dodging cars and lets see what the results are.


Cheers http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





P.S. A 7000+lb turbo diesel truck is a whole lot different than a vetteEdited by: IBDMAX'IN

This has been a great post.....Thanks BJ http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Ain't you coolhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


Genohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

I try to be Geno!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Well I've been at work all day and this is sweet!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif When we race we will go from a dig, I'm gonna use level 4 again, defueling 4-5 shifts and leave low boost on 5, spool it up and go. When we went before it was close, but I feel from a dig that it will be a diffrent story. I've put down two of my buddies done up 7.3s and a handful of cars on the street. I'd take the truck to the track but I'm takin my vette this Sat. instead, just got a fresh tune so I gotta go get that 11.xx time slip. The only issue I'm having with my truck right now is that shakes at stop light at 180 degrees water temp when it's getting warm for the first time in the morning or after it has sat long enough to cool down. I'm waiting too see what comes up on our forums as to the suggested fix, maybe injector, who knows...

Go get'em JHD!!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





Maybe after BJ gets his doors put back on and comes down off all the diesel fumes from JHD he'll become an oil burner too!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Good Luck BJ, you'll need it this time!! LOL


Have fun and be safe..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Big John,

I still say BS. I spent over $4k (actually about $6k if you factor in tuning) on that pos 6.0L. I know what a 6.0L will and won't do (in a 2500hd).

Now, if your 6.0L was in a 1/2 ton with either the Radix supercharger or a 150+ shot of NOS, then you could whip the Duramax. Weight kills the speed of small blocks. BTW, the 6.0L weighed in at 6,250 lbs. The Duramax weighs in a 7,600 lbs.

Happy day dreaming!

Ps. Tell your diesel buddy to "really" floor it next time! If your ego can handle it?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


I wouldn't be too harsh on Big John really. If you spent $4k on the motor and $2K to tune a 6.0L then you've been taken for more than just a ride in your truck. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


For that kind of money you should have a nice set of heads, header, exhaust, intake, maf, airbox, TB, and a dual stage 125hp/75hp wet shot kit on that truck and still only spent $750 to tune it and pocketed the other $1.25K for nitrous.


Okkkk humours abuse mode is now off. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif


In all serious though, what blower did you put on their and who the heck took you for that much tuning. Anything over $1K to install and tune a blower kit and they should be embarrased to hand you the bill.


Rick

NOW we're having fun...just added a couple more bolts to ALL 4 of my doors-LOL-BJ





Ryan- I have tank full of 87 right now.....

P.S. A 7000+lb turbo diesel truck is a whole lot different than a vette


Naahhh they are pretty much the same... it just takes a little bit longer to get to the really exciting part which is trying to stop them both before you run out of runoff at the end of the track. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Rick

MI Black Max,

You didn't quite read all of my post. The blower was a Powerdyne centrifigul. Blower itself was $3,500! I installed the blower myself. Wester's custom tuning was $800. The rest was for the transmisson upgrade, upgrade pulleys, belts ($35 a pop, it lost a few), water/alcohol injection, and other goodies. Easy to rack up $6k (still have all the receipts http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif ).

The 6.0L was better than stock, but it can't touch my Juiced Dmax.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

The NOS was a just a joke...theres no sneaky pete under my intake manifold- "IF" I was running NOS it would be 150 shot not a sissy sneaky pete-BJ Its nitrous not NOS. NOS is a brand.

Or N20 would be more technical http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif or is it N02!!! LOLEdited by: IBDMAX'IN

Hey IBD

"Good morning, Mister Anderson...."

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Agent Smith!!!


LOL......nice http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

MI Black Max,

You didn't quite read all of my post. The blower was a Powerdyne centrifigul. Blower itself was $3,500! I installed the blower myself. Wester's custom tuning was $800. The rest was for the transmisson upgrade, upgrade pulleys, belts ($35 a pop, it lost a few), water/alcohol injection, and other goodies. Easy to rack up $6k (still have all the receipts http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif ).

The 6.0L was better than stock, but it can't touch my Juiced Dmax.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Ahhh yes... the dreaded PD belts. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif This explains the anguish you have suffered my friend.


Yes... I miss read the $2K as tunning only and not driveline hardening. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif Sorry for the homourous poking. I should have taken a nap before catching up on my posting hahahaha.


Rick

Agent Smith!!!


LOL......nice http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





speaking of the jack $%^ - any good news from that clown ? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Agent Smith!!!


LOL......nice http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif





speaking of the jack $%^ - any good news from that clown ? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif








What?????? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Help me out here, what exactly are you talking about???

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13266&KW=agent


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

dieselboostfreak- Havent ya seen The fast and Furious??? I need more NOS man... give me the big bottles-LOL

T-bone,


everything is much clearer now!!!!!


What a joke!!! LOL Thanks for the laugh. H3 suspension.... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

MI Black Max,

No offense taken. I was just trying to give you guys a clearer picture of what I did. BTW, that is still a sore spot between my wife and I.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif Big part of the reason I haven't been able to get the suncoast upgrade and stacked chips yet.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

You havent hung around many ricers or watched the slow and infuriated many times have you? Its pronounced NAAAShttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Tongue.gif


And sneeky pete is a NOS brand kit, so he testicly would be using NOS. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Tongue.gif


And you can get a pretty good sized shot from a sneaky pete, you just cant spray for very long since the bottle has the same capacity of a womans bladder.


If you stack chips you will hurt your trans and that would require you to get a trans upgradehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif Or your juice could accidentaly get upgraded to a hot versionhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif Might also require you to pay some lawyer fees too if she catches on so I dont know if I would recomend that wroutehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

I have raced imports for a couple of years. Not hondas, I race Eagle Talon AWD turbo cars. So, fast furious sh*t pisses me off.


NOS is a brand and Nitrous Oxide is the type of power adder you are using. When you say it like this "Man I need more NOS". That indicates I need more nitrous oxide, but its spelled like a retarded kid driving a kia rio . Not starting a fight, just hate rice phrases.

MI Black Max,

No offense taken. I was just trying to give you guys a clearer picture of what I did. BTW, that is still a sore spot between my wife and I.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif Big part of the reason I haven't been able to get the suncoast upgrade and stacked chips yet.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


Ahhh... do what all of us car guys do... explain to her that the upgraded tranny is really a safety mod. Since the power adders are going to go on anyway... might as well protect your feet and other important parts sitting over the tranny. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

New results on the first post-BJ

I'm impressed you can match him with the 6.0L on the 70-100 roll on. If he ever upgrades his tranny this will no longer be the case. The edge is defueling heavy in 5th to save the tranny. No more slippage and he would have full power. Good bye 6.0. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Not to mention put a quad or one of the other tuners and get rid of the limiters then u could race him up to 150mph.


Wonder how the 6.0 will do at 150?


70-150 roll would be a good test, see if u can do it http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

Yep, this blowes my mind that this 6.0 can even compete with the dmax. My buddy had an 03 Silverado SS, all stock except an air intake, and it only ran 15.79-16.01 (as the weather went down hill) and thats with the 345hp 6.0. And his truck before that was an 02 2500hd 6.0 4x4 that ran 16.78.


So if this guys truck is fast enough to hang with the dmaxhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif then he has the only one IMHO.


Maybe they accidentally put an LS6 vette motor in it from the factoyhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

1bad01,


That would explain a few things!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


BJ,


Hey man, I was never trying to piss in your wheaties but I just found it hard to believe that your truck with such minimal mods would be so competetive against a d-max. I must say you are probably one hell of a driver keeping up the way you do. Can't wait untill you have a rainy day and your truck somehow ended up at the bottom of a ditch and you somehow ended up walking away without a scratch.....hint, hint http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif. Maybe then it would be d-max time euh??Edited by: IBDMAX'IN

I have spent some more seat time in a loaner 6.0 and there is no way this POS will keep up with a modded Duramax. You can reprogram it and cold air it to death and no way, no how will it keep up. I'm not buying it unless of course the 6.0 has some hidden horsepower. Lets see some dyno numbers or ET's!

Man, Do I miss my Dmax!

My friend and I were driving up a large hill towing maybe 2500 lbs each. I have a Dmax and he has the 6.0 L. I started to pull away half way up the hill (cruise control at 65mph, never geared down) then he put it to the floor and it took him some time before he caught me. Ask your friend to put 5000 lbs behind his truck and you do the same. He won't be smiling then. The Dmax was built to pull not race. 6.0 L can't compare when the weight is on. But due to the fact that the 6.0 L will rev higher faster then maybe that could help with an empty run, Faster the engine turns the faster you go!

1bad01- I have out run 2 "SS" 1500's already (70-110 mph)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


IBDMAXN- I understand...you just have to understand that MOST 6.0's VS mine wouldnt be a race either (I havent lost to a 8.1,HEMI and even the light weight TITAN went down in flames) and like I said in the first post...MY truck could "accidentily" burn to the ground if I could have Ryans LLY...IAINTSTUPIDYAKNOW-LOL.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif


Racehemi- Lets see.....a loaner 6.0 VS my dialed in 6.0....thats a lame comparrison...YOU have no idea how bad I beat stock 6.0's.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif


All I can say is when I went from the PPG3 to a custom WESTERS garage tune it was night/day improvement and I have hit the 126 mph speed limiter easily- BJhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif


AGAIN- My buddy and I are having some FUN and posting the results (notice I posted he booted me on level #5)- and Ryan has driven my truck many times, and has raced/beat many cars/trucks himself he knows how fast my truck is-http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif


BTW- its almost time for new tires... 265's would make me even quicker than the present 285 rubber...I might have to give up the "looks" for a better ET...





EDIT- I just drove Ryans truck...(I have it for a couple days while mine is in the body shop...DONT ASK) and as i'm having a little fun I notice it shifts into 5 th gear (WOT) around 75 mph (with 285's) so at 75 mph and 3000 rpm redline...just how do you guys think this truck is going to go 125 mph much less 150 mph??? BTW it is pretty impressive 0-60 when in 4 HI and getting the boost up (I only loaded it to 2000 rpm) level #4 (I never tried level #5) in respect to the stock transmission- BJEdited by: Big John

Well all I can say is, if your truck runs as good as you say, its a one of a kind for sure.


Are you planning on taking it to the next step; heads, cam, supercharger?


Maybe you should do it up like that 1500 with the "turboed" 6.0 that runs 10.90's. That would be cool.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif


P.S. Shame you live so far away, I'd like to line 'em up with ya. I'd give that 6.0 the spanking it deserves.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifEdited by: 1bad01

Racehemi- Lets see.....a loaner 6.0 VS my dialed in 6.0....thats a lame comparrison...YOU have no idea how bad I beat stock 6.0's.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

YOU'RE right, I don't know how bad you can beat a stocker, but neither do you because you have no ET slips or dyno graphs for comparisons! So here is my guess, based on the mods you mentioned you may have picked what 20rwhp? Ok, maybe 50rwhp and that's a BIG stretch! Let's hear some real world numbers or leave the "My truck's faster than your's" type posts for the knuckleheads over at AMSNOW.COM

Sorry for the rant, must be this gas guzzling pig of a loaner starting to wear on my patience http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

PS Bring that bad boy over to Kennedy's this Saturday so we can see the freak of nature!

Dude..YOUR the one who's throwing me under the bus....as for time slips/dyno graphs etc.....I dont need one when its 10 truck lengths to 90 mph and I have out run "SS" 1500's on the highway, I think i need more than +20 rwhp to do that.


BTW when you run a 10.85 at 125 mph on DOT's and thru the exhaust (been there done that) then you can chirp all you want about whats fast- I know my truck is'nt fast but its fun to drive and it beats up on "most" trucks (NOT ALL trucks)...oil burner or not-BJ





Its obvious some guys can handle a little competition and some cant...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

Big John


I do believe your eyes are brown. Short of a twin screw, the 6.0 in trucks has been found lacking. Even with a twin screw, up against a good Dmax, you will lose your motor trying to pull the Dmax top end. You talk a lot of trash about pushing 150mph. Nor even off a cliff. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

MikeL- I never said I could beat ALL Dmax's nor MOST..I was just having fun with my friends new LLY with posted mods.


As for 150mph??? (that was an oil burners claim not mine) I have hit the NEW rev limiter at 126 mph with my 6.0- and since we're talking TOP end running.....I have been driving Ryans truck for 2 days....I just did a 70-100 (factory rev limiter intact) pull on level 4 and guess what??? 100 mph is at 3100 rpm in 5 th gear...not sure how it could go much faster??? (actually it was 105 since Ryan is running 285's)- A bolt on magnacharger should level the playing field and then some.....Ryan has a friend with a SS and a Magnacharger...it would leave (almost) all'yall for dead (13.1 @103 mph)-BJ


edited- for IBDmaxin's reference to a couple hvy. MODS running mid/high 11's... and "plenty" high 12 second trucks...thats kinda optimistic isnt it??Edited by: Big John

"it would leave all'yall for dead (13.1 @103 mph)-BJ"......WTF???? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Super Diesel running a dually unstripped from a dead Idle is 13.80 @ 111 Mph (had he boosted maybe a mid 11)


Mike Tomac running 11.80's @ 112Mph crew cab short bed


I run high 14's for less than $615 invested total in my truck


And there are plenty of guys here that would take your friends 13.1 a shove it right back in his face http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif.


Careful with your words BJ, your might start pissing in everybody's wheaties soon.

WEll its OBVIOUS....I (gasser) had a little fun with my buddy (oil burner) then posting the results is asking to much for some people...even when the other guy (oil burner) makes valid claims to the performance of the "gasser" it falls on deaf ears.


With admissions of defeat in many races and claims of "burning my truck to the ground to own Ryans LLY" I STILL cant temper a few "oil burner" EGO's- so I end this week long thread..while it was fun and entertaining...it proved pointless in the end-BJ


BTW- Theres no such thing as a "FAST" diesel..... its only "FAST" for a diesel.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif


edit- They dont put LLY's in the Corvette for a reason.


edit #2- I forgot to mention the few members who were realistic/understanding and did not throw a new guy under the bus JUST because he had a different result than most would assume...I appreciate talking with those members.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif


IBdmaxin- Dont flatter yourself...I posted the truth,even dogged myself alittle then posted the results even when I lost to the LLY...cant see were I have the ego problem??http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Edited by: Big John

WEll its OBVIOUS....I (gasser) had a little fun with his buddy (oil burner) then posting the results is asking to much for some people...even when the other guy (oil burner) makes valid claims to the performance of the "gasser" it falls on deaf ears.


With admissions of defeat in many races and claims of "burning my truck to the ground to own Ryans LLY" I STILL cant temper a few "oil burner" EGO's- so I end this week long thread..while it was fun and entertaining...it proved pointless in the end-BJ


BTW- Theres no such thing as a "FAST" diesel..... its only "FAST" for a diesel.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif


edit- They dont put LLY's in the Corvette for a reason.





Sounds to me like YOUR the one with a ego trip, posting on a diesel site how a very unimpressive 6.0 can out run his friend!!!


Make sure you tell your momma why we were picking on you!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Classic case of "Diesel Envy".http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

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I was not going to respond to this topic after I finally read that someone had mentioned that your driving abilities should be done on a track and not on the streets around other drivers who are not aware of what is going on, but I feel that I need to remind you of the possibility of killing someone or your self.


You are traveling in a 7000 lb vehicle and you may only be going 10 miles over the speed limit but you are getting up to that speed alot faster than expected and weaving in and around other cars.


It is people like you that start the road rage going.

some of the boxes get rid of the mph limiter and also the motor rpm limit.


There are a few that turn over 4000 rpm now.


stock gassers don't have the power to push the 7000# brick that 150mph.

I know it's been said that your truck is unusually fast for a 6.0L. From the modifications you've done, I can't see how yours would have been faster than the 6.0L and 8.1L HD's I used to own. Both of those trucks had a Hypertech (+25hp), intake (+10hp), and exhaust from Gibson (+10hp). That's really all you can do unless you tear the motor apart or bolt on a supercharger. I was considering the supercharger on my 8.1L, but for $6000 I could get the same horsepower and MORE torque by getting a Duramax and spending much less, not to mention TWICE the fuel mileage. I also own a 2001 GMC C3 with the 325hp 6.0L (1/2 ton all-wheel drive) with a K&N intake, Hypertech and Gibson exhaust. The BEST time I had at the dragstrip is 15.37@90.

Scotty- I replaced my Hypertech (PPG3) with a custom Westers garage tune...night/day difference (the TQ. management gets dropped to 25%, on average a 10-12 degrees more timing,more hp at at a higher rpm, 2 nd gear pulls to 90 mph 5800 rpm), and as for Gibson exhaust making +10 hp..maybe on an older 6.0 with the small tube factory exhaust..my 2003 has 3" dual exhaust into the 8.1 muffler with a 3.5" tail pipe...ALL exhaust manufactures claim "better" sound BUT no extra HP on the newer big tube 6.0's.


AKdiesel- I apologized for our actions in the first race...the second race was on a "seldom" used 2 lane river bottom service road and was FREE of any unsuspecting drivers.


Dmaxtim- when did I ever say a stock gasser can push a 7000# brick to 150mph??


MOST of the derogatory comments (though entertaining) would be eliminated IF some guys either... read the whole thread...didnt take information out of context...use personal opinions as facts.


Did I say that out loud???-BJ

Big John,


Have you been to a dyno? I would like to see the graph on that thing. I don't doubt you have HP, it's just a little higher in the RPM range for ya. .......... How far are you from JK?

I wish I would have known about "Westers" when I owned my gas trucks, if it makes that much difference. Did they give you a ballpark figure for horsepower gains?

I wish I would have known about "Westers" when I owned my gas trucks, if it makes that much difference. Did they give you a ballpark figure for horsepower gains?


Guys, boxes can never come close to a remote tuned PCM that is setup by someone with real tuning skills for your applicaiton combination with a real editing tool. Doesn't matter what hand held or pluging box you are using.


It's also a fact of life that even the best remote tuner can be beaten by an average skilled person with the vehicle being tuned while it's on the dyno with real time changes being made to dial it in. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


GM's third gen engines like the LS-xs, and the irons leave plenty of power wasted and waiting to be unlocked in the stock PCM just as the Dmax does. The Dmax's only true advantange over the 6.0L is mph and potential durability. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif


I'll give you a working example. A local Escalade now has a development turbo kit on it based on a Garrett GT-40 50 trim, .58 A/R Turbo. This is the daily runner truck for the shop owner. So it's packed with enough stero equipment and enough blinging wheels and tires to put it in the 6,000lbs range easily. The only other performance mods are a catback exhaust and the shop tune.


This little turbo escalade with it's stock motor is currently running 14.2 at 93.96 mph. If we add 1,000 lbs to it to get it at the right weight, we can safely assume the ET will drop by about 1 sec in the 1/4 mile time. That's still in the 15.2 second range run with only 5lbs of boost.


Compare that to the stock times for a 6.6L Dmax which makes over 22lbs of boost. Now who's making more power and with what fuel? Sure the DMax will probably be getting better gas mileage but that's about it. The cost of adding the tubo kit and exhaust is still less than adding the Dmax as an option.


Naturally the arguement comes that I can add a box to the Dmax. We'll the iron block can safely run 16lbs on that turbo with just a head gasket change and maybe an Alchy kit if you want to run 93 pump gas all the time. Cost of doing that is $200 for the gaskets and $400 for the alchy kit which compars nicely to a box and only takes about 4 more hours worth of DIY labor. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif


So the moral of the story is GM makes all sorts of good motors. Any thing is possible, someone just has to be the first to want to do it. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Rick

Compare that to the stock times for a 6.6L Dmax which makes over 22lbs of boost. Now who's making more power and with what fuel? Sure the DMax will probably be getting better gas mileage but that's about it. The cost of adding the tubo kit and exhaust is still less than adding the Dmax as an option.


Rick








Rick,


Not tryin to step on toes here....but.... You just answered your statement. You spoke about who's getting more power out of what fuel...uh, hello? Then you even mention MPG. How much fuel is a 400ci Diesel burning @ 3,000 RPM and how much gas is a 400ci turbo motor burning @ 3,000 RPM? Ok, now tell me who has more TQ and HP? Ok, now spin it around and tell me how much fuel both engines burn @ WOT and give me the HP and TQ numbers. I'll tell you that the Gas motor will have more power @ WTO because it has more fuel ..because it can "burn" it faster. Run some numbers based off a given HP, say 500HP, and calculate how much fuel each engine must burn to achive that number. You'll find that the heavy diesel fuel needs more air thus, more boost. Take the "extra" fuel from the gasser and give it all the boost you want... you're not going anywhere. Take the boost out of the diesel and you'll starve it out. These motors both use combustion...but that's about it. You cannot take an essential part away from either one and "compare" them in HP and TQ.





Don't be too hard, I havn't gotten my flame suit out of the cleaners yet...spent all my money on the gals.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif LO





Burner------------> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Big John


I do believe your eyes are brown. Short of a twin screw, the 6.0 in trucks has been found lacking. Even with a twin screw, up against a good Dmax, you will lose your motor trying to pull the Dmax top end. You talk a lot of trash about pushing 150mph. Nor even off a cliff. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Stop the Presses!


I gotta side with Mikey on that one.


My father has a 6.0gasser... and lacking is probably the kindest thing you could say about it

MOST of the derogatory comments (though entertaining) would be eliminated IF some guys either... read the whole thread...didnt take information out of context...use personal opinions as facts.


Read the sentence below that YOU wrote and tell me who should practice what they preach!!! by the way nice way to edit your BS. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


"it would leave all'yall for dead (13.1 @103 mph)-BJ"......


IBdmaxin- Dont flatter yourself...I posted the truth,even dogged myself alittle then posted the results even when I lost to the LLY...cant see were I have the ego problem??http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


BTW- Theres no such thing as a "FAST" diesel..... its only "FAST" for a diesel.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif


Little John,


Get real buddie!!! you expect to get away with trash talking a diesel, on a diesel site, and think I will just keep reading and blow it off???? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif YA RIGHT!!!


You started the trash talking even after I said I didn't want to piss in your wheaties http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif. And now your trying to point the finger at everyone but yourself. If you can't handle the heat get your A** out of the Diesel Place.


Some day when you think your 6.0 has the Ba**s to come to Colorado then pack a lunch and I'll be happy to show you how slow your truck really is!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif.


P.S. Just for the record I never said that your truck didn't beat your friend, I just found it a little hard to believe, just like everyone else on this post!!!

Rick,


Not tryin to step on toes here....but.... You just answered your statement. You spoke about who's getting more power out of what fuel...uh, hello? Then you even mention MPG. How much fuel is a 400ci Diesel burning @ 3,000 RPM and how much gas is a 400ci turbo motor burning @ 3,000 RPM? Ok, now tell me who has more TQ and HP? Ok, now spin it around and tell me how much fuel both engines burn @ WOT and give me the HP and TQ numbers. I'll tell you that the Gas motor will have more power @ WTO because it has more fuel ..because it can "burn" it faster. Run some numbers based off a given HP, say 500HP, and calculate how much fuel each engine must burn to achive that number. You'll find that the heavy diesel fuel needs more air thus, more boost. Take the "extra" fuel from the gasser and give it all the boost you want... you're not going anywhere. Take the boost out of the diesel and you'll starve it out. These motors both use combustion...but that's about it. You cannot take an essential part away from either one and "compare" them in HP and TQ.





Don't be too hard, I havn't gotten my flame suit out of the cleaners yet...spent all my money on the gals.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif LO





Burner------------> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





No fire suits needed. Just broadening the discussion beyond one guy having fun driving his 6.0L truck through a sea of Dmaxs. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


We'll probably be renting Norwalk some time next week so we'll solve the puzzle. We'll pack up 6-7 guys in the Escalade at 5lbs boost and run it against my truck with the Edge set to stock. A live fire test is always better than bench racing. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


The real question though will be, will the battle between the Escalade, 2500HD Dmax and the F250SD and F-350SD get more press than the the FI vettes, F-bodies and Mustangs that we're going to be towing down for TNT??? It should be a fun day for some numbers. http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


Rick

U are going to NRP?


I don't live too far from there.

IBDmaxn- I guess its OK for you to insult me...but If I make a general statement I'm the bad guy??


"make sure you tell your mommy why we were picking on you"http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Then do it again..


"little john"


I edited the one post BECAUSE you showed me there are "some" faster d'maxs..so correcting myself is bad too???


And as for whats fast and whats not??...its safe to say that diesels arent fast (they tow/pull) you can make one fast...but is a 11 sec. truck really fast??? YES for a diesel... IMHO "FAST" is a 8 second street car.


BTW.... its BIG JOHN....get it right.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

DMAXTIM....I would like to see a 150 mph dmax...especially since I have been driving one (JHD's) for a couple days now and 100 mph seems to hit just shy of 3100 rpm...


JUST were would the extra 50 mph come from???-BJ


I was going to edit the previos post...but I didnt in fear of the "the edit police"

Big John,


Do you know of anyone that has done the programming changes to an 8.1L that you've done with your 6.0L? Just wondering what the performance of that motor would be. I see that you're located in Minnesota. Where 'bout?

Scotty- just give me a ring...BJ

BJ,


I edited the one post BECAUSE you showed me there are "some" faster d'maxs..so correcting myself is bad too???


And as for whats fast and whats not??...its safe to say that diesels arent fast (they tow/pull) you can make one fast...but is a 11 sec. truck really fast??? YES for a diesel... IMHO "FAST" is a 8 second street car.


Stop trying to defend your comments, you sound like my daughter when she knows she's in trouble. We all know what you said and what was meant by saying it. Stand up and take it like a man!!! If you wanna trash talk, then trash talk. Just expect to get back what you dish out http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif.


IMHO I don't think your a bad guy, I don't think your a liar, I think you started a hot topic on this forum and don't know how to deal with all the criticism. If I went to a gasser forum and posted that my diesel beat a souped up 6.0 although it was true, I would expect some people to be skeptics. That's why before I put my foot in my mouth I would have timeslips to post and dyno graph's to prove my claim!!


You must understand something, you originally posted how your truck beat the LLY and that's what got this all started, then you did eat your foot very well (Like a Man) and posted how you got beat which is what made sense from the start. Next time you might wanna get the FACTS before posting a thread on "The Diesel Place" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

DMAXTIM....I would like to see a 150 mph dmax...especially since I have been driving one (JHD's) for a couple days now and 100 mph seems to hit just shy of 3100 rpm...


JUST were would the extra 50 mph come from???-BJ


I was going to edit the previos post...but I didnt in fear of the "the edit police"





I said before some of the tuners get rid of speed and mph limiters so they can and do go to 4000rpm.

I posted a video of a 10.17 second run... and i don't care who the heck you are, that IS FAST!


Oh, and it just happens to be in a street legal Cummins turbo diesel truck.


So i guess that must mean it is 'fast for a diesel'http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Pretty much spanked the gasser it was running against too.

U are going to NRP?


I don't live too far from there.





Yep, a little quiet weekday TNT for some LS-1/LS-6 development project F-bodies and Vettes from the Motwon area. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif We've got some racing down in LA coming up in early November to get ready for.


Rick

I posted a video of a 10.17 second run... and i don't care who the heck you are, that IS FAST!


Oh, and it just happens to be in a street legal Cummins turbo diesel truck.


So i guess that must mean it is 'fast for a diesel'http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Yep, that's fast for a diesel, but then again... there is no such thing as too fast. Speed is like a virus, the mods are just the latest strain until the next stronger version comes along. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Rick

Boy this virus sure is contaigous, one thing you forgot to mention is the primary areas affected like, Wallet, bank account, ect.... Boy it sure is fun though!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Very true, my latest attempt at weight reduction for the car and the truck has come out of my wallet. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


It's never a good plan to be modifing two vehicles at the same time. Need to get the lastest changes to the TA done faster. Is it October yet???? hahahaha.


Rick

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IBDMAX'n- Stand up and take it like a man???? I have my name listed,my business and phone number listed and were I live....PLUS I'm not defending my comments....it seems I have to explain them to the people that like to take things out of context and then make light of them. I've been taking it like a man for 100 postshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif


NOW I appreciate that you dont think I'm a liar or a bad guy...I feel the same way about you....maybe we can "agree to disagree" because we can do this all summer long...LOL.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Tongue.gif


The only facts I had/posted is what we did...Ryan knows what happened and so do I...I'm tempted to put 265's back on (I need tires pretty quick) and get my computer retuned (free of charge) to the 93 octane tune and we will rerace then, as of now...on level 3 he cant beat me, level 4 he's out by a truck+ (roll-ons I can just get him), BUT level 5 is the 6.0 TERMINATOR-.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif


BTW...I dont sound like your daughter...LOL-http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ouch.gif-BJ


DmaxTIM- YOU plainly posted (at the beginning of this thread) that a dmax could go 150 mph and he should race me from 70-150...I guess I dont see a 4000 rpm (with the right tuner and speed/rpm limiters removed) motor picking up another 50 mph top end either...What is the fastest speed a d'max can go???


edited for spelling only.Edited by: Big John

With 285`s and at about 3500 rpm the Duramax will do about 125-130. I've been there. And that was fast enough for me. I am a chicken ya know! I was in mtomac`s truck at about 3600 rpm, so we should have been going at least 130 maybe 135. He also has the 285x75x16" tires.

summer isnt too long in MNhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


at least you dont get hurricanes, although I love Gators!Edited by: blowinsmoke

Gators got Bambi's mommahttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/CZ5_gator-deer-image001.jpg

Nice!!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Big John, The real question is- How does it doo vs. the 925?

;)

Big John


I think you have been found lacking, just like your truck. You talk a lot but no one has seen you do squat; I take that back, we have seen you squat, alot. I have seen guys like you show up on just about every board and talk the same trash. You guys fire up the crowd with your silly claims like a child, but you never go looking for competition. We guys here have some good running Duramaxes that you can find in any state or city. Find one, we will make it easy for you. Problem is, you won/t find us hiding behind a door talking trash and squating. Want some of this? State it and get it on. Bring that bad ghost truck and let everyone see that 125 mph in a brick with no torque. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


mike

Wow Mike, tell him how you really feel.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

With 285`s and at about 3500 rpm the Duramax will do about 125-130. I've been there. And that was fast enough for me. I am a chicken ya know! I was in mtomac`s truck at about 3600 rpm, so we should have been going at least 130 maybe 135. He also has the 285x75x16" tires.


And Mike's will go 4000rpm plus.


Of course Jeremy is running his up towards 4500 rpm http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif


What really gives these truck top end is the .71 OD and next year w/ the .6 OD 175 mph top end will be possible.


Side note anyone spin a dyno up in 5th gear to see what kind of mph in black and white or was that were Mike and Mike ran the 130+.

Just for all you guys that need some help with your gear math: http://www.f-body.org/gears/


It's a good tool to play with for sure. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Spec your tires.


1st - 3.10


2nd - ??


3rd - ??


4th - 1.0


5th - .71


Rear 3.73 for the Dmax


and set your rev limiter to your tune's RPMs





Rick

Looks like my math is OK


4000 rpm 285 tires and .71 OD gives 147 mph


4000 rpm 285 tires and.6 OD gives 174 mph


Now for Jeremy (HBC) 4500 rpm 285 tires .71 OD gives 165 mph and 196 mph w/ .6 OD http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


I'm not going to mess w/ those funning kph #'s http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifEdited by: Dmax Tim

Yep you're on track. I was just posting this one up so everyone who had questions could use the tool.


In the world of cars where we change tranny models, rear gears and tires all the time, this is very useful tool. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


Rick

DrMike...The 925 would mop it up!!-LOLhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


MikeL- YOU fall in one of my catagories...either you dont read so good or you take info out of context and spin your way...I have raced plenty of trucks (gas/oil burners) and have faired well...I also have a personal friend with a juiced Dmax and we raced several times and I posted the results...NOW if you dont like the results.... well your acting like the child stomping his feet cause he didnt get a cookie. As for my truck going 125+ mph you dont know gassers very well. BTW..I NEVER said I beat ALL trucks, just this one i listed.


DMAXtim- so the math says 147 then it must be true....LOL...I'm sure the wind resistance of a "brick" at 150 mph doesnt apply -BJ

DrMike...The 925 would mop it up!!-LOLhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


MikeL- YOU fall in one of my catagories...either you dont read so good or you take info out of context and spin your way...I have raced plenty of trucks (gas/oil burners) and have faired well...I also have a personal friend with a juiced Dmax and we raced several times and I posted the results...NOW if you dont like the results.... well your acting like the child stomping his feet cause he didnt get a cookie. As for my truck going 125+ mph you dont know gassers very well. BTW..I NEVER said I beat ALL trucks, just this one i listed.


DMAXtim- so the math says 147 then it must be true....LOL...I'm sure the wind resistance of a "brick" at 150 mph doesnt apply -BJ











I know someone that has a gasser that may be interested in schoolin you at the track! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gifEdited by: grasshopper

Big John,


Do you have a website or phone number for "Westers"? I'm interested in getting a custom tune for both of my sports cars. The Hypertech and the other programmers/chips just don't produce enough horsepower over stock to make any real difference.

grasshopper....so do I- its not that fast and I never said it was...its just fast enough to have fun- no more/no less.


scott- call me-BJ