: how much boost , and running what box or boxes
fredw 08-24-2004, 06:16 PM <DIV>just trying to see a comparrison of what combos gives what boost from the turbo</DIV>
<DIV> stock gave me 21 psi</DIV>
<DIV> vanaken 110 gave 24.5 psi</DIV>
<DIV> vanaken 150 gave 25 psi</DIV>
<DIV> power pup 155 gave 25.3 ps1</DIV>
<DIV> power pup and 155 va stacked gave 28.3 psi</DIV>
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<DIV>anybody has other boxes and combos it would be nice to compare, and what is the highest that the stock turbo will make, thanks all</DIV>
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Got Juice? 08-24-2004, 06:31 PM add some 'juicegrips' and wave bye bye to it when the needle sweeps past the 37PSIG markhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif
Amric 08-24-2004, 07:49 PM Quad 135hp = 26psi
Quad 165hp = 28psi
Quad 215 = 32 psi (with 35 spike in 5th) then defuel
VA200+ = 32 psi (with 34 spike in 5th) no defuelhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
No stacked data, and I wouldn't let the psi go any higher if I did.
Mackin 08-24-2004, 09:42 PM Seen more then you will want to see so I have it needle valved TTS Xtreme at 31 PSI max.
Race stack with Edge Comp dials in the same do to the valve.
Mac
Max shown on my Attitude records section is 30.3, alert and defuel is set at 32 per Edge.
fredw 08-25-2004, 04:38 AM "Quad 215 = 32 psi (with 35 spike in 5th) then defuel
VA200+ = 32 psi (with 34 spike in 5th) no defuelhttp://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big%20Smile.gif"
wow, did not think our stock turbo could make that type of boost, so it must be in the tunes, is their a way one can test the performance or effecicy of the turbo, would like to know if mine is working like it should be
White Duramax 08-25-2004, 09:40 PM About 28-30 psi VA 230, my boost is tapped into the intake pipe.
Wickedsprint 08-25-2004, 10:46 PM Imake 24ish (post intercooler) with a quad 110Edited by: Wickedsprint
moss022 08-25-2004, 10:50 PM with all my stuff stacked, and with a little power maker in, i have seen 25.6 on my attitude. thats all, nothing higher or lower, 25.6!!!!!! thats it, every time i pull or do what ever same thing after resetting records 25.6
LLY J/A and PPE spikes 38 and holds 36 at the manifold with the current build...T
fredw 08-26-2004, 08:38 PM <DIV>looks to be a larger turbo than the LB7 have, (YNot) </DIV>
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<DIV>anyone else with the edge 225 that sees 32psi, might be the tune</DIV>
Got Juice? 08-26-2004, 09:47 PM <DIV>looks to be a larger turbo than the LB7 have, (YNot) </DIV>
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<DIV>anyone else with the edge 225 that sees 32psi, might be the tune</DIV>
Will let you know after Diesel thunder with my 'Piersified' turbo!
coalbucket1 08-26-2004, 10:01 PM STOCK WASTGATE AND NOT PLUGGED. RACE EXTREME ON THE XCELERATOR. 27-28 PSI.
Kennedy 08-26-2004, 11:56 PM Been playing with my Banks Big Head wastegate. Initially, it was good, but seems to have settled and dropped a few psi. I've been working with a control valve, and have brought it back up to 35-36psi max. Cleaned up the Big VA quite a bit. Still searching for a happy medium between drive psi (yes I monitor it) and boost. Should know more by Open House...
ratlover 08-27-2004, 11:58 AM moss the attitude dosnt read higher than 25.6
lly101 08-27-2004, 12:42 PM The edge / *** clips boost at 25.6 so engine doesn't defuel.If you are playing with waste gate you better get a real gauge so you can tell what your boost is cause that *** monitor will only show 25.6 PSI. My LLY would push 43lbs with waste gate disconnected on stock turbo but would cavitate if hammered on to long.
Amric 08-27-2004, 04:26 PM Been playing with my Banks Big Head wastegate. Initially, it was good, but seems to have settled and dropped a few psi. I've been working with a control valve, and have brought it back up to 35-36psi max. Cleaned up the Big VA quite a bit. Still searching for a happy medium between drive psi (yes I monitor it) and boost. Should know more by Open House...
John,
I have also noticed that the VA smoke cleanes up very well at these boost numbers. It also feels that there is more HP being made even though the turbo is so far out of its efficiency. Have you or do you plan dyno at these pressures to see how it compares to your previous dyno of the VA200+?
Kennedy 08-27-2004, 04:45 PM Been playing with my Banks Big Head wastegate. Initially, it was good, but seems to have settled and dropped a few psi. I've been working with a control valve, and have brought it back up to 35-36psi max. Cleaned up the Big VA quite a bit. Still searching for a happy medium between drive psi (yes I monitor it) and boost. Should know more by Open House...
John,
I have also noticed that the VA smoke cleanes up very well at these boost numbers. It also feels that there is more HP being made even though the turbo is so far out of its efficiency. Have you or do you plan dyno at these pressures to see how it compares to your previous dyno of the VA200+?
I'll be playing some more in the future and am setting up to map the boost and drive psi in real time. I've cut my smoke AND EGT's tremendously with a little air device in the wastegate. One BIG thing to keep in mind is that I am running a different compressor wheel capable of moving more air, AND running a lower rpm...
The edge / *** clips boost at 25.6 so engine doesn't defuel.If you are playing with waste gate you better get a real gauge so you can tell what your boost is cause that *** monitor will only show 25.6 PSI. My LLY would push 43lbs with waste gate disconnected on stock turbo but would cavitate if hammered on to long.
Hmm....
Seems to be some confusion here. First, LLY's don't have a wastegate. Second, my LLY Juice/Attitude will definitely go beyond 25.6 psi. My Attitude came set at 25 psi. from Edge which was causing a significant defuel on my truck. Edge told me to set it at 32 since the Attitude begins defueling before the limit is hit. Same with the EGT limit.
And, my Attitude is still running the Beta software since the release version does not contain a records section for the EGT and Boost numbers.
Amric 08-27-2004, 07:07 PM One BIG thing to keep in mind is that I am running a different compressor wheel capable of moving more air, AND running a lower rpm...
I have been worried about the RPM, as I know I am exceeding 110,00rpm for the ENTIRE run. So do you sell the compressor wheel? I have not seen it on your site, or heard you talk about it before.
Amric 08-27-2004, 07:12 PM http://www.ntinnovations.com/pictures/TurboNotes.gif
baimpala 08-27-2004, 07:32 PM Tested tonight, I did not see my Attitude DISPLAY more than 25.6 psi, while my Auto-Meter continued to climb an additional 1-2 psi past where the Attitude stopped climbing. . . I wonder if that is something Edge changed from the Beta to the market version. . .
Dennis
Dennis,
Can't say about that on the release version for the LLY. I know that the total boost was cut back on the release version Juice to try and do something with the turbo bark some folks at lower elevations were getting.
I've had two Beta versions on the Juice and it was flashed with the release software, but I did not get the new box with the hardware change that reduces the boost since I'd not had a bark.
I've also had two Beta versions of the Attitude software and elected to keep the second one since the records section, which had been causing some users problems, was eliminated on the release version. Mine had been okay, so I asked them if the Beta Attitude would work with the release Juice and they said it should, so we left it alone.
I've seen posts in the forum about the Attitude stopping at 25.6 on the LB7 stuff, but mines always gone above 30, so I figured it must be an LB7 thing. In fact, with the first Beta, it would go just over 31 psi.
So I guess you're down to calling Edge about it for some sort of definitive answer...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif
baimpala 08-28-2004, 01:40 PM Zeeb,
Good info. It looks like the release Attitude is set to only display 25.6. I don't believe it clips boost (I don't think it would be possible to always hit just 25.6 exactly and not go above it, just too many factors), but instead I believe it won't display any higher than that.
The bark factor makes sense to me. I have barked mine once, but that was only when I did a brake torque spin out then dumped the throttle completely (stupid), bark-ark-ark-ark-ark. Whoops.
Normal flogging, no barks ever. Seems that whatever they did works fine. No need to call them, I was just interested and thought it might have something to do with your Beta vs. the release version.
Thanks,
Dennis
PBR803 08-28-2004, 06:54 PM i am running the juice(no attitude) and on level 4 i am only seeing 22psi max on my autometer guage... why is everyone else seeing higher numbers??? is it because i have a california truck with an egr(the kitty cat is in the garage)????
baimpala 08-29-2004, 09:06 AM PBR03,
My Autometer reads lower than the Attitude. Where did you tap for the boost gauge? That could make a difference. I also noticed that it takes a little bit longer for my Autometer to read boost because I think it take a little bit for the gauge line to build pressure, it routinely will lag the attitude display until it gets up to about 8 to 10 pounds (that's a guesstimate). Once it starts getting above that in pressure, it tracks very quickly and as near as I can tell, right with the attitude, but always a couple pounds lower, until the attitude stops at 25.6. The autometer will continue to go up after that, but I don't know what the highest has been. I have a tendency to keep the eyes on the road at that point.
I just took the cat off my truck last night, so I will see if that made any difference in the next couple of days or so, but it does seem like you should be able to make more boost.
Dennis
PBR803 08-29-2004, 03:11 PM i t'ed into the wastegate actuator line on top of the manifold for my boost pressure. my juice is the california setting, i don't know if that makes a difference or not.
when you say in your sig that you have an "egr override" what does that mean and what did you do???
baimpala 08-29-2004, 04:00 PM Oh, thanks, I forgot to change that. It should read EGR unplugged. That's all, I unplugged the EGR motor per Max Power's idea. It works great.
Big discussions going on around here about EGR and how to defeat them. Do a search for EGR Disconnect and you will see. . . .
I wouldn't think that location would be a lower pressure spot to monitor. . . strange. Do you have a full aftermarket exhaust or just the Cat delete? I don't know much about LB7s so that may be normal without a Big Head Wastegate. . . maybe someone else will chime in with their LB7 experience.
Dennis
PBR803 08-29-2004, 05:23 PM i do not have aftermarket exhaust just a straight pipe with no kitty cat... i would really like to find out what the deal is with my boost because i think i should be getting more... thanks for the info dennis.
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