Live here in Cali and it pisses me off that diesel ($2.09 at flying J) is just about .03 cents cheaper than premium gas. One of the main reasons I baught a Dmax was for fuel savings and that sure isn't happening anymore. WTF I feel like I'm living in Bizarro land and everything's backwards. Is there a reason for this, I thought all big business, who uses diesel powered trucks to get their product to marketplace, would be in an uproar. What's the deal? Why is it soooo expensive?


Sorry just venting


Rich.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif

I feel your pain brother...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

The same reason these trucks have gone up in price. Inflation, plus some others. Supply in demand, oil production declining.


You can always buy a small honda and get 25 mpg but you wont be able to pull anything or haul heavy loads.


The price is high but so is everything else. I remember when you could go to the movies for under $5.00 and fuel at that time (I am talking gasoline) was around $1.00 a gallon depending on the location.


People really have not cut down on the fuel consumption from what I have seen. We now have more vehicles per house hold then we did 20 years ago. You can complain all you want but it really has to do with supply in demand.

I feel for everyone trying to make a living with a diesel truck.The Chinese are competing for the same fuel .They need a greater quantity every year.1 Billion people and I read that by 2009 every household will own a car.Scarry. We better get used to $5.00 per gallon.Thats what the rest of the world pays.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

Well personally I just think that they (gas companies) figured out there is such a high demand as more diesel trucks (personal vehicles) are hitting the road and they want to capitalize on it. I am surprised it took them this long to figure it out. Hopefully it will flatten out and diesel will go back down and stay that way. Maybe, maybe not....http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

At 5 bucks a gallon it will cost you more to drive to work than you make in a day. Talk about a collapse in US economy.

At 5 bucks a gallon it will cost you more to drive to work than you make in a day. Talk about a collapse in US economy.





At $5.00/gallon, they will have to pay me $200K/year to just be a civil servant. Talk about goin' to hell in a handbasket!

Well - I personally was shocked about the diesel prices being higher than unleaded here in MN myself, but the onlything I can imagine is that fuel oil (heating oil) demand is starting up and that is causing the raised prices?? (maybe i'm way off base here but??)

I personally believe its all profit. If I'm not mistaken, the reason diesel's always been cheaper is because it costs less, alot less, to refine. So what's changed. Were gett'n screwed.


BTW, I'm still venting..............http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif

This month I visited Yellowstone Park. Yeah, it takes a bit to deliver the fuel to the station but I paid $2.24 per gallon for diesel ! Most other stops averaged around $1.89 to $1.79 per gallon.

Good News!


Crude prices are back down to $42.00 a barrel. (if you can call that good..), due to less than predicted amount of gasoline consumed.


The futures boys took a bath... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Bought diesel just 'causehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif.


Diesel at $5/gal - I won't be buying. Would be switching to BioDiesel before then!

Think about it. Last year it cost the same to produce (except for inflation) as this year.

It's all about supply. It's all about free market. It's what we desire... we desire oil, they supply at the price we will pay. We should only blame ourselves. If we would all stop even for a day, the prices would drop so fast and the industry wouldn't know what to do with the stuff. We would blow the balance that they are playing with.

Plain and simple, Enron style corporate greed. The supply of refined products is totally manipulated by the oil companies to drive the price up. In Bakersfield Shell is closing a refinery even when they had a buyer for it. Believe the talking heads on the 5:00 news if you want but it's total price manipulation. The demand has just now started to slow because of the high prices and low and behold the pump prices start to go down even when crude was at an all time high. Market manipulation and greed.

The latest reason for the prices going up is now "political".. the cost of crude oil has gone down .. although a little .. it's going down.. it is not as much supply and demand with oil now.. but the worry about what supply there will be or could be...


I am and someone else that I know is getting rid of our diesel large dump truck due to costs... on the semi's... that has got to be getting tougher and tougher each time....


I paid $1.89 the other day... Whaaaoooo... but only because it's .10 cents less than other palces..... still not a great feeling....


Pete

Diesel is now up to $1.92 here in Aurora, CO which is about 3-5 cents higher than mid grade gas. That is up from $1.79 where it has been most of the summer just a week and a half ago... Me thinks this has something to do with the Holiday coming up... They always seem to raise prices a week or two before a Holiday. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif

Well, I'm happy to say the last time I fueled up here in Newport, RI, the price went down from 1.93, to 1.89. Woo hoo!


Dennis

I think it's time to start turning corn or soybean or anything that we can have the suffering farmers of this nation grow....and turn it into fuel....then we can tell ahab the arab and the execs in the oil companies to cram it......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


support the farmers and grow the economy.......energy indepenence would be a huge advantage. One that most other countries of the world couldn't match. The midwest is the most open and productive land on the planet


We need to take this Biodiesel thing and run with it.......hell of a lot easier than building more nuke plants and trying to run everything from a rechargable battery or hydrogen

were can you get biodiesel?

look up here for some sites...


http://www.biodiesel.org/buyingbiodiesel/retailfuelingsites/default.shtm





-DLA

I pay $2.43 per gallon of Diesel. Anybody know if exhaust increases MPG??? Edited by: k_lou

Diesel is now up to $1.92 here in Aurora, CO which is about 3-5 cents higher than mid grade gas. That is up from $1.79 where it has been most of the summer just a week and a half ago... Me thinks this has something to do with the Holiday coming up... They always seem to raise prices a week or two before a Holiday. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif


Same thing has happened here in Ohio. It is running 15 to 25 cents a gallon more than 87 octane right now. We see it every year when they switch over to starting to stockpile heating oil for winter use. It usually goes back down in march or so leaving diesel more expensive than gas usually about 6 months a year and cheaper usually the other 6 months.