hey everybody,
just have a quick question on lemon law. My 2004.5 silverado has had nothing but problems over the last three months.
in November, about 34,000 miles, the truck started losing power when i would go to merge onto the tollway, i brought it into the dealership. They told me i needed a new fuel filter, so they replaced it.
2 weeks later, it started doing the same thing. I brought it into the dealership, after 10 days they told me it was a fuel pump valve sensor, so they replaced it.
a month later, it started doing the same thing only worse, kind of like it was running out of gas. I brought it in, and they told me the fuel filter wasn't installed properly, they replaced it free of charge.
3 days ago, the truck started acting up again, only this time, i barely made it to the dealership, with that same "running out of gas" feeling(herky-jerky). This time they told me they have no idea what to do.
Since the problem first occured while the truck was under warranty, they have been taking care of the repairs even though i am now 2,000 miles past my warranty.

What i need to know is, what is the Lemon Law rule? Do I have any right to go into that dealership and ask for a new truck. It seems that everytime the truck gets fixed, a month later it starts acting up again, only worse. Not to mention, it is always in the shop at the worst times. Thanks for the help in advance.
Mike Richied

You will need to check what the laws are for your state say. Not all states are the same. The ones I've seen restrict your recourse to the first 12 months or 12,000 miles, but your state may be different and every case is generally handled differently.

I would check the DMV website for your state. You will very likely need a lawyer to go through with the claim. get ready for a long drawn out process.

Are you gettting your fuel from the same place all the time? You may want to have it checked.

Several year ago I heard a story about a guy at school where someone had put a cigar butt in his fuel tank. Every time his fuel tank was running low, the cigar leaves would get sucked around the fuel pickup screen and the engine would die. After sitting for a while, the leaves would float away and the truck would run again, only to repeat the process again. It took him a long time to figure out that something was plugging his fuel pickup.

Good luck.:)

All states are different. The most standard is it has the be the same exact problem 3 or more times. If they keep giving you a different explanation that will be tough to go with lemon law. I would check out your state info. Good luck.

Same as all the above, but I think your problem is not the truck, it the dealer. They should of fixed it right the first time, it's documented (repair order) as a problem, now they need someone who knows how to work on these things. Take it to another dealer with all of your repair orders and see what they can do for you.

wtrfwlr1031, you didn't say what state you are from,BUT YOUR "BABY" is one of ours. You have a extended cab that was built at Pontiac East. Please send me a e-mail with the history so we can look & see what we can do from the factory!! Howard = howard_m18 at yahoo.com

Another idea would be to not worry about the lemon law thing(probably a very long process and I doubt you would get a good result) and call GM customer service to tell them about your problems and tell them exactly what you would like to have happen. I would ask for a bumper to bumber warranty to 100K on their dime.

hey guys,
thanks for the help, Howard, as soon as i get the truck back, i will e-mail you with all the info from the service receipts. i guess i am going to give them one more shot to fix this problem, then contact GM customer service. Thanks again for all the help!
Mike Richied

As RayMich stated above, you may have some crud in the fuel tank. Something to check out anyway.

Have them check the injector wiring harness while they are at it.

Do a search on the above title, theres a lot of info on this problem and its common on 04 -05 models,that sounds like whats happening to yours. the harness rubs on the alt bracket, there is a tsb out for this problem to replace it.

Have them check the injector wiring harness while they are at it.

That's what I was thinking too... But that always shows some codes that lead directly to the harness short. Sure wouldn't hurt to bring it up to them...

Bud, your avatar is still creepin' me out! :D

Mike

You must have something against good ol' Southern boys, Mike. :D

You must have something against good ol' Southern boys, Mike. :D

Nah... Just the deliverance guys. I've got a bunch of friends and relatives in Tx and I'm kind of an honorary member of the Texas good old boys...

Get your boy's truck fixed yet? Or is he still actin up?

<brief thread hijack>
We cranked up the truck this past Saturday to charge the battery and pull it around into the sun. It was about 15 degrees out. I decided to drive it around the back pasture a little bit first to let it warm up, and it just quit. I mean it was like the battery had fallen out.

I tried to start it, and it made a feeble grinding sound, and then nothing. I popped the hood and saw the positive battery clamp smoking, and the ground wire at the top of the alternator smoking. The battery clamp then just melted right off the battery.

I'm guessing that the alternator shorted out, and likely fried the battery as well. I left the truck there and just walked back to the house. I can't drag it back up to the house, because the flipping tractor won't start, so now I have a couple of projects to keep me busy!!!

I have an 05 which I bought a couple months ago. The first week I had it it did this exact same thing. I was passing a car on the highway and she just died. I had the dealer put a new fuel filter in it and its been fine since. I think you have a dealer issue.

well guys,
the clerk at the dealership called me today and told me their diesel mechanic retired so their gas engine mechanics were trying to fix my truck. She then told me that the mechanic wanted to ask me some questions. So, hugo got on the phone and told me "we have had the truck inside for two days and it seems to be running fine, so you can come pick it up today" when i told hugo that keeping my truck in a heated garage is not an option for me, he seemed to imply that i should look into building a heated garage for my $48,000 2.5 year old pickup truck. So, after about 10 minutes of describing the problems i have had over the last few months with the truck, he decided that he would leave it outside overnight, and then drive it in the morning so he could "experience the problem". While i have really enjoyed thoroughly beating the hell out of my rental chevy uplander minivan, i really want my truck back!! Guys, i am at a loss right now, i need some help!
Thanks,
Mike Richied

Go to a dealer that has a qualified service department. It does not sound like you will get anywhere with the current dealer.

hey guys,
looks like i got some bad fuel. I ran the truck till the tank was close to empty, filled her up, threw in a little additive and she's running better than ever. Just wanted to thank you guys for all the help. Now it's time for some mods, check out my new post.
Mike Richied

What i need to know is, what is the Lemon Law rule? Do I have any right to go into that dealership and ask for a new truck. It seems that everytime the truck gets fixed, a month later it starts acting up again, only worse. Not to mention, it is always in the shop at the worst times. Thanks for the help in advance.
Mike Richied

Okay this will be long. I had a 03 6.0 chevy gasser. My truck would just quit on me as if it was out of gas. The first time the dealer said that I was low on fuel and sitting on a hill the fuel pump would not pick up the fuel :blahblah: . Second time (one day later) sitting in a flat parking lot full of fuel it quit on me and would not restart, towed in to the dealer and the truck started up, they said since they couldnt duplicate they could do nothing. Third time same situation dealer replaced the fuel pump. FOURTH time two days later, I was pulling my boat across a 4lane road and it quit on me blocking 3 lanes. Cops were upset I told them talk to the dealer not me. I contacted a lawyer about the lemon law, I payed the lawyer and they drawed up three documents and sent one to the dealer, one to the manufacutur (GM), and one two the BBB (Better Buisness Bureau). The document stated they had one last chance to fix my truck for the same problem or when my truck was towed in again not to contact me but my attorney. Long story short they kept my truck for three weeks and fixed it. I never had a problem again. They said I had a wiring harness issue.:confuzeld The laws are different in all the states but my attorney told me it takes alot for them to uphold the lemon law especially since our trucks cost so much. Hope this helps.

Have them check the injector wiring harness while they are at it.


I ran into one with the same symptoms you are having and this is exactly what was going on. It was the harness for the left bank shorting out causing it to go into derate

Have them check the injector wiring harness while they are at it.
I just had a dealer "repair" (cut and tape for $ 180.00) my injector harness because of non-fire in injector #1. The said corrosion but the problem occurs right wear the wire rubs a bracket. Anyone else with the same problem

I just had a dealer "repair" (cut and tape for $ 180.00) my injector harness because of non-fire in injector #1. The said corrosion but the problem occurs right wear the wire rubs a bracket. Anyone else with the same problemIs your truck still under warranty? If so, this should have been a warranty repair.

Diesel engine warranty is 5-yrs/100,000 miles with $100 deductible after 3-yr/36,000 miles.

I believe that there may be a TSB covering this. (I'm Not sure if it applies to 2005 Model Year though)

I would have insisted that the harness be replaced.

At the very least, it should have been covered under warranty.