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002tallymax
02-04-2007, 04:24 PM
i'm curious because when i first got my truck, on nov.23. i ran b-30 in my truck. around christmas my truck wouldn't bust off without silicone spray. i had to replace them, glad they were under warranty:deal: . the mechanic at the dealership told me i can't run b-30 but i could run b-5 or less. does anyone have any expierence on this.

redneckbuckeye
02-04-2007, 04:39 PM
I know the Duramax manual I received with truck says that any thing more than b-5 could damage your fuel system. I think there are guys running b-50 when they have higher temps outside. Nate

nosliw
02-04-2007, 08:20 PM
run as high of mix as you can, temperature permitting. nothing wrong with the stuff.

002tallymax
02-04-2007, 08:49 PM
how does temp affect it. does bio produce high egt's

beermccoy
02-05-2007, 08:33 AM
run as high of mix as you can, temperature permitting. nothing wrong with the stuff.

Ditto... Summer I run B100... Winter B50....

Cheers.

nosliw
02-05-2007, 11:00 AM
how does temp affect it. does bio produce high egt's


i mean outside temperatures. don't run so high a mix that it gells on you overnight.

Rockin C Racing
02-05-2007, 11:43 AM
Bio will gel at a warmer temp than does petroleum diesel. With the proper additives and depending on your climate you can run B100. I do here in Pacific NW.

HBruns
02-05-2007, 12:03 PM
I run the B-20 regularly without problems. I have also run 100% bio without any issues. I do live in Texas and temps do not go much lower than freezing.

Biodiesel will typically gel at higher temps than regular diesel. Use appropriate additives.

Keep an eye on your fuel filters because biodiesel will clean out the asphaltines (black stuff) in the fuel system, which end up in the filter.

fast03
02-05-2007, 12:11 PM
Been running b20 since October 06' and no problems. I have run it down to mid twenties with no problem.

joheath
02-05-2007, 02:11 PM
B100 is actually better than any diesel mixture. It lubricates better, cleans better and is more enviornmentally friendly.

joheath
02-05-2007, 02:28 PM
Guess I should say that when the temp gets close to single digits in F, biodiesel will gel. Right now there isn't anything you can add except for regular diesel to prevent the gelling.

beermccoy
02-05-2007, 02:53 PM
Actually Jo,

Biodiesel clouds and gels at higher temps than that... It really depends on the oil you start with... Each different oil has a different cloud/gel point.

I use partially hydronated soy and it will cloud at 36-38F... That when I start blending with D2 (pump diesel) to lower my cloud point... As other have said, test your bio and test your blend...

Good Luck.


Guess I should say that when the temp gets close to single digits in F, biodiesel will gel. Right now there isn't anything you can add except for regular diesel to prevent the gelling.

BigBadAllis
02-05-2007, 03:21 PM
Bio diesel is great. Any blend of it is good. I don't recommend running B100 unless you know exactly where it came from and can get a proper test grade. There's a lot of bad batches floating around out there that have cost people a lot of money and headaches. The Biodiesel industry is about 30 years behing the Ethonol industry and far as the quality of manufacturing and proper grading. It's a great concept to run B100, but if it leaves you on the side of the road the novelty wears off pretty quickly.

If your in a climate that gets below 15-20 degrees, I don't recommend B fuels at any blend especially with ULSD. With ULSD/Biodiesel you have two fuels with unknown cold weather characteristics. I am in the fuel and lubrication industry and have seen a few companies deliver bad fuel to customers.

obsolete
02-05-2007, 10:57 PM
I could not agree with BigBadAllis more!
After trying to mix the two in 20 deg temps I was left on the side of the road.
Great advice BigBadAllis.:exactly: :beerchug:

dirtfarmer1968
02-06-2007, 05:31 AM
Allis is right, stay away from it in cold temps. Water and fuel are not a good combination when froze. I run 20% soy oil all other times of the year, no probs at all.

nay6
02-06-2007, 09:44 AM
I run B20 everytime I get a chance.

BigBadAllis
02-06-2007, 10:15 AM
I run B20 everytime I get a chance.

Me too, except when it gets cold.

Rockin C Racing
02-06-2007, 10:25 AM
Last week our overnight lows were in the upper teens and lower 20's and I run B100 and have not had any problems. I make my own Bio and DO run an additive designed specifically for Bio and changes the cloud and gel point by a minimum of 10 degrees. The bottle does say that results of more than 10 degrees are possible depending on feed stock.

mx2702001
02-06-2007, 12:18 PM
If the Bio is blended right it will work great i run B11 in the winter I been Pushing it last few nights here @ 12 below my supplier says its good till 20 below my biggest problem is its stored in a tank out side so it will gel there first

BigBadAllis
02-06-2007, 12:59 PM
If the Bio is blended right it will work great i run B11 in the winter I been Pushing it last few nights here @ 12 below my supplier says its good till 20 below my biggest problem is its stored in a tank out side so it will gel there first

The main problem is that not all Bio/Soy diesels are created equal. Every batch may be different.

calirider
02-07-2007, 08:21 PM
Last week our overnight lows were in the upper teens and lower 20's and I run B100 and have not had any problems. I make my own Bio and DO run an additive designed specifically for Bio and changes the cloud and gel point by a minimum of 10 degrees. The bottle does say that results of more than 10 degrees are possible depending on feed stock.

What type of oil are you producing the biodiesel from?

BigBadAllis
02-07-2007, 10:13 PM
We have guys all over gelling in the single digits with ULSD. The guys with even B5 were crying when it was in the teens - 20's.

Rockin C Racing
02-08-2007, 02:42 PM
What type of oil are you producing the biodiesel from?

Waste veggie oil from a couple of local resteraunts (sp). The additive is made by Technol. Website is ww.technol.com