What do you feel the best diesel is for pulling a 20ft boat and a 26ft trailer from time to time is? I had a 2003 powerstroke, and now have a 2003 D-Max which I really like. But I am catching alot slack from my buddies who have powerstrokes. They say that the transmission is not what people say it is and that Ford has a better transmission along with a better diesel. I know that the ride is better in my D-max for sure, and the Durmax is not as loud as the powerstrokes. I know that all 3 of the diesel companies make good trucks. But is there anything that my truck has over there's STOCK for STOCK.

Talk is cheap, here is what you need to do.


Contact Joe Webb at www.suncoastconverters.com (http://www.suncoastconverters.com) ask him for a dealer in your area.

Go to them, get a suncoast level 3 installed.


Then contact www.ttspowersystems.com (http://www.ttspowersystems.com) and ask for an extreme program.

Then go race the ford powderstrokes. They will never give you a hard time again. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


Or a cheaper route would be a Juice and attitude.


All kidding aside, as long as you like it that is all that matters. The biggest pluses over the ford in my opinion are, motor (6.0L Powerstrokes have many, many problems), allison, ride, looks, interior. Do they have 6.0L's or 7.3s? The 6.0L has had many, many problem. Go read on www.thedieselstop.com (http://www.thedieselstop.com) to get an idea of just how many problems. The 7.3s are good motors but not much transmission behind them. Also I've heard the front ends of the fords wear out quick. There are many more things. I'll let others add to it.Edited by: Max Power

Thanks, Max Power one of my buddies has the 6.0L and the other two have 7.3L, However one is stock and one is beefed up with chip, 4" exhaust, and new converter. His truck is quick. But I believe I could take him if I added the stuff you talked about. One day I will put something on my truck. I talked to a guy at diesel innovations and he said I could put a 110hp chip in the D-max and still be ok with stock transmission,and exhaust. What do you guys think? I wouldn't be racing it or anything, well maybe sometimes. But all kidding aside do you guys think that the chip would be ok with the stock trans, and exhaust if I only pull the boat and 26ft trailer every now and then. I just don't want to tear things up. But I would like to make it a bit quicker and drive more like a gas engine.

Grab the Juice, only thing the Fords will notice about your truck are those nice new style tail lights!!! The Allison is a great transmission how they could say otherwise shows a lack of knowledge.

My father in law runs a big horse ranch, they have a 2002 Chevy CC dually and and identacle 2004 Ford, both pull a 36 foot 6 horse tripple axle at WAY over the trucks capacity when fully loaded (farm people) Even the Ford guys wont take the Ford on Texas runs because they say it won't pull the hills fast enough, it's left them stranded 3 times, one new turbo, 6 computer reflashes, and some kind of tranny related computer module. It's been in the shop for 2 months of the 7 they have owned it. The Chevy has had two injectors the first time, one full set of injectors the second, and the brakes replaced. It's funny to talk to the die hard Ford guys there who won't drive the thing, even they admit the chevy pulls harder. I like diesels no matter who makes it but I will say you bought the better truck. The extra little torque you get out of the Ford means nothing if it's sitting in a shop on a rack.

Juice with the attitude, dont go over 90hp. If you love your truck now you will really love it after its juicedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif I think it is about the best thing out there for the regular joe that going to be doing a mix of playing and towing, banks comes in second IMO. Tuners like the quad lack some of the adjustability especially on the fly and they dont look for trany slippage like some of the boxes do, plus the juice and even the banks you can get gauges. JMO


For just towing and the like even the juice set to 30hp over stock is a nice kick in the pants.


Stock for stock? About the only thing I like about the new fords over the chevy is that they have better mirrors and depending on what you are doing the ford solid front axel may or may not be a plus.


I think right now ford is a bit on top in the hp wars? thats all a marketing game though, all the manufacures slightly derate thier motors so they can improve the numbers just a wee bit and try to guess and be the ones that release the highest #'s. If all the manufactures released the highest # they possibly could from an emmision/motor staying together/ drivline staying together standpoint we would see much higher #'s than we do right now.

The Allison is much better than anything Ford puts out. Many (if not most) of the failures you may read about are from those who adjust their programmers (ie quad, bullydog) to the max without doing the requisite transmission upgrades.

The Torque Shift is a nice new transmission. Smooth and handles the stock power well. I hava had the chance to ride in one of a freinds. I have not heard of any problems other then the one mentioned in this thread.


But the Allison is built for what these diesels are designed to do. I am still hoping to upgrade to the next level in this field.


I believe this whole thing is just a bunch of braggin rights. You can build up any one of these trucks to handle more than neccessary. It only takes money.

. They say that the transmission is not what people say it is and that Ford has a better transmission along with a better diesel.








If F*rd is so confident about their trannys then why do they use Allisons in their 550 & 650 series?

[If F*rd is so confident about their trannys then why do they use Allisons in their 550 & 650 series?]








http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Very Good point http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


My F*rd truck buddies respect the Duramax. The guys with half a brain do not question the Allison. They do say "why can't GM build their own transmission?" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Very Good point http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


They do say "why can't GM build their own transmission?" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif








Ahh, well they do. Allison is a GM owned company:


Off the Allison site:
<LI =disc>Founded in 1915, Allison Transmission has been part of the GM family since 1929.


<LI =disc>The company has become the world leader in the design, manufacture and sales of automatic transmissions.
</LI>

When I bought my 04 dmax LB7 new, a co-worker bought a 7.3L power croak. He had about 20k on his. We raced stock vs. stock and I beat him every time-through short and long distance.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Don't worry about your purchase, I know 2 other guys down here that have powercroaks 1 guy is easy on his and has had front end problems, and tranny problems before 30k miles. The other guy is kind of hard on his and has had a tranny, front end and rear end problems before 70k miles. There is nothing wrong with the motor, just the vehicle built around it. Try to find a used dmax, now try to find a used power croak. You will be able to find more ps than dmax's. I looked for a used dmax and called all around AR and memphis and only found one. A dealer asked if I was interested in a ps and I said no. He then said that he really didn't blame me, He used to have a farm and they had ps. He said the 97's held up ok until 150k they had to replace the motor. They got newer ones and replaced the motors in both before 100k miles due to the bad airfilter design. All of this kept me from buying one.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Adjustability with edge on the fly will get you a range shift if you are into it. HEHEHEHEHE What a scare I had. Man I about crapped my droors!!!!!!!!! Hot J will be fine on the alli as long as you know how to drive it. Of course thats my opinion.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

P.S. F#*d doesn't build their own diesel either. Navistar does. F#*d apparently puts the electronics on the engine. I believe I heard thats where the problems with the 6.0 are comming from. Electronics. Ask your F#*d buddies about F#*D engineering.
I do believe the above to be true.

Any help guys?

Ive read over on the dieselstop that they have a lot of incosistent shifting when adding a power mod.

look at the towing ability of our 2500 HD Dmax\allison we kill the competition........!!!!

Ive read over on the dieselstop that they have a lot of incosistent shifting when adding a power mod.


I think most tuners are over that hurdle.

I know my buddy is having all kinds of issues with his F#*d right now and they just seem to keep getting worse. Been in the shop 10 times in the last 2 months working on it. Think maybe he is about ready to switch...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif

. They say that the transmission is not what people say it is and that Ford has a better transmission along with a better diesel.








If F*rd is so confident about their trannys then why do they use Allisons in their 550 &amp; 650 series?








Tell you this-they don't use the Allison 1000 tranny and also they do offer the TS.





All brand wars aside. The 550 and 650 are not even in the light duty truck class we all have trucks in. They also offer a Cummins but not a D-max does that mean D-max is crap? Nope just different strokes for different folks.

This is the best truck I have ever owned. I was a die hard Ford truck owner since 1975, until I bought my 2003 HD Duramax. The quality on my Fords just seemed to go down.


Bad transmission? I tow a 10K pound 5th wheel The transmission is unbelievable with the way it shifts and downshifts. Ford doesn't come close.


But I do love the way the Dodge Cummins sounds http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gifEdited by: JohnnyO

The Allison produces the badest ass trannys around....check this out


PROPULSION


The M1 is equipped with a Honeywell AGT 1500 gas turbine engine. The Allison X-1100-3B transmission provides four forward and two reverse gears. The US Army has selected Honeywell International Engines and Systems and General Electric to develop a new LV100-5 gas turbine engine for the M1A2. The new engine is lighter and smaller with rapid acceleration, quieter running and no visible exhaust.http://www.army-technology.com/projects/abrams/images/abram110.jpg

Bad enough for a TANK, better for the DMAX

We know GM has the best equipped trucks, period. The forD guys will just never understand since they have their head so far up their own arse - just like certain politicians!. You can't tell 'em anything.


The forD 6.0l had over 66,000 recalls in its first year (2003) of production and 500 buy-backs. Now that is having problems.


No way will I have a forD.

Edge told me that even the 60hp level would burn up the tranny eventually.



I took it off when it broke. They sent me the new one and I sold it.

here in the next year or so im plannin on gettin a dmax, and when i get it im gonna get a chip and all that good stuff so i can make all these ford and dodge guys quit runnin their mouth. but any ways i just couldnt bring myself to buy a automatic in a diesel id never be happy with it. what kinda trans. does GM put in 4 a 6spd manual and would they hold up better bein chipped than a automatic.

[QUOTE=slayer726]. They say that the transmission is not what people say it is and that Ford has a better transmission along with a better diesel.








If F*rd is so confident about their trannys then why do they use Allisons in their 550 &amp; 650 series?








Tell you this-they don't use the Allison 1000 tranny and also they do offer the TS.











Yes, I think everyone knows this and that they dont put the same Allison in the M-1. But with that kind of pedigree to fall back on, it sure is a good sign.





But still, F**d is putting GM trannys in their trucks because F**d cant/wont build a strong enough tranny.