: torque specs on bolts for converter
moss022 08-09-2004, 06:16 PM what have you guys been torquing your bolts to for the torque convter. the guys that know this most likely have changed a tranny, so are there any other torque specs i should know before i put it back together. i am just swaping out trannys.
dmaxalliTech 08-09-2004, 07:19 PM tight with a 1/2 impact and a 36" extension that is 1/2 on the female side and 3/8 on the male, with 15mm wobble socket.....and a dab of red locktight.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif
GMC-2002-Dmax 08-09-2004, 08:15 PM tight with a 1/2 impact and a 36" extension that is 1/2 on the female side and 3/8 on the male, with 15mm wobble socket.....and a dab of red locktight.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif
what he said..............
I used lot's of blue LOCTITE............
enough for a tank..............
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moss022 08-09-2004, 09:52 PM on the new torque convter, it came with different bolts, i believe they a lot shorter than the stockers. i do have a triple. i thought that i had read somewheres that space was tight, so i think i will use the new ones
GMC-2002-Dmax 08-09-2004, 10:02 PM on the new torque convter, it came with different bolts, i believe they a lot shorter than the stockers. i do have a triple. i thought that i had read somewheres that space was tight, so i think i will use the new ones
The Suncoast Converter I got had it stamped all over the front..........You must use the supplied bolts..........
that is why they are included with the new TC.
DO NOT USE THE STOCK ONES ..................at least on the SUNCOAST TC.
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Mike L. 08-09-2004, 11:01 PM on the new torque convter, it came with different bolts, i believe they a lot shorter than the stockers. i do have a triple. i thought that i had read somewheres that space was tight, so i think i will use the new ones
If you do not use the bolts supplyed by your converter company, you might be in for a rude awakening if you have to make that dredded phone call. Read the instructions and and follow them carefully.
mike
moss022 08-09-2004, 11:10 PM thats the only problem, i didnt get any instructions!!! thankfully there is the dieselplace to answer any and all of my questions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanks guyshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif
Mike L. 08-09-2004, 11:31 PM tight with a 1/2 impact and a 36" extension that is 1/2 on the female side and 3/8 on the male, with 15mm wobble socket.....and a dab of red locktight.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif
Glad you said it first bro.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif That is exactly how I do it in my shop. I figuered if I posted that first, I might have gotten jumped on. Oh well, always said mom loved you more than me. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif
mike
dmaxalliTech 08-10-2004, 08:09 AM I was wonderin if I was gonna catch some flack for it or not.....but, sometimes the truth hurtshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif
ratlover 08-10-2004, 09:14 AM Lotsa locktite and as much ass as I could put on it with a 15m u socket and my long 3/8 screwdriver handled ratchet. I've got an IR 1/2 impact, 600+ is what its rated at.....duno if I would have the nuts to crank it down full bore with that
BTW. I would start all the bolts and then tighten em. I tried to get lazy and I couldnt get one started, had to back em off to get #5 in there(the last one went). Also might wana have someone looking into the inspection cover to make sure the converter is getting sucked down nice and even when you start cranking on the first one. And I was able to use a long prybar to push up on the lugs of the stocker but the cover on the SC is much closer to the flexplate so I made me a tool. Just a peice of 1/8" or thick flatstock 1" wide or so with one end whitled down to .5 or so. One guy spinning the motor with another guy tightening the bolts works well. JMO
I got a snapon scanner if you wana meet up and blast your taps and set her to fast learn. I'm bouncing between spr. and peoria
dmaxalliTech 08-10-2004, 10:57 AM phil, you like doing things twice? Look for the pink blotch of paint, thats the hole that is elongated, start that one first and tighten, allthe rest will line up.. If you dont start with that one, your gonna go around twice.
ratlover 08-10-2004, 11:34 AM No I dont, thats why I started and tightend the first one and then went onto #2-4 couldnt get 5 startedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif but 6 went in without incedenthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Had to losen them all and start #5(not a problem with em not tight) and then tighten them all. The pink blotch on the flywheel I assume? Viewable through the starter hole or the inspection cover? I now have an explitive on the converter marking the spot were the no starty bolt was, probably the pink marked one too. Man was I pissed at that point.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif
Things you learn after droping countless allisons huh?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Tongue.gif
Your experience is extreamly valubale and very appreciatedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif
dmaxalliTech 08-10-2004, 01:32 PM Phil, learned that trick years ago. All GM trannies have a "master" hole in the flywheel to start first..
ratlover 08-10-2004, 02:15 PM I havent had enough gonads to drop a trany in a year old truck till this one, all the other ones i have seen musta been gone years before. They also wernt as much of a PITA to turn over as the duramax/allison combo. Generaly the nut and bolt config too
Thanks for the tiphttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif
dmaxalliTech 08-10-2004, 03:18 PM now that is some old stuff!
Its real fun dropping the trans on a truck with 6 miles on it...before it even gets sold! We had a silent recall on a bunch of 04's with the 4L80E, they did some changes but didnt change the pump, they would burn up with less then 20 miles on them, had to pull em, fix the pump and reassemble..
moss022 08-10-2004, 09:15 PM i think i have the taps handled ratlover, i have a quadzilla that can make the tranny go into relearn. dont know if that is as good as the tech 2 but you guys will tell me i am sure of that. got the tranny down and out lastnight, but got side tracked and the old man isnt home today. need help since this trans is the very first trans that i have transplanted. any tips or secerets to aid in it going back in. whats a good break in procedure. when i pour in the tranysnd in, how much should i put in to be able to safely start it????
Mike L. 08-10-2004, 11:07 PM moss022
You do not have the TAPs handled at all. Quad will not do it. He does not have the code from GM nor will he ever. He may be able to adjust the adverse effect his program has on the TCM, but that is about it.
mike
ratlover 08-11-2004, 09:00 AM I was thinking of buying a quad for the code clearing and tap reseting feature and as another toy to play with but have been told it dosnt work too wellhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Duno....so I just bought a used snapon scanner. If you do zap em with the quad I'd still be interested in taking a look at it with my scanner to see if everything has been sent to fast learn. Nobody seems to have looked at one after they used the quad to see what all it blasts and I am quite curious.
I'm thinking I put in 2 gallons, started it then dumped in another 2 and started it and clicked through the gears and I set a code when it sucked air(I felt the truck feel like it throw itself into N) and then dumed the rest in. It did set a code and kick off the ses light, cleared it though with a snappon scanner, although I am having problems clearing trany codes with mine because I dont have the "genaric" key to go into the genaric diagnostic mode.
I think I made a post in this forum about my findings. 2 actually, one juiced trany autopsy and another titled my suncoast experiences or something like that.
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