General Motors Corp.'s Hummer brand is scheduled to begin selling a midsize sport utility vehicle in the first half of 2005 and is planning a high-performance series of vehicles called Alpha.

The low-volume Alpha series will begin with the 2006 H1 Alpha, which is scheduled for launch in early 2005. The H1 Alpha will be equipped with GM's 6.6-liter Duramax turbo diesel engine, which GM said will provide more power, improved emissions performance and better fuel economy than the H1.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/07/27/financial1626EDT0263.DTL

Sorry, for $105,000.00 starting price I don't think so. I could probably buy a brand new Chebby Diesel, a used Hummer H1, a wrecked Chebby diesel and pay someone to do a drivetrain conversion for that price.


Just my .02

NO,get the new one, it has updated HD axles and some other improvements.


Besides a 600hp Hummer should be a ball to drive http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif

Yeah, but you wouldn’t have that new car smellhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

For 105 K I would build a real truck - not a baby Hummer with a Diesel Engine - what a nonsense.....

There is a lot more information out there on the new H1 Alpha D/A. Looks like a nice unit.

Cruise range is about 1000 km. Still costs too much.

only positive thing I see is that the Hummer will now get more than 8mpg..otherwise its still a waste of money in my opinion.

For 105 K I would build a real truck - not a baby Hummer with a Diesel Engine - what a nonsense.....
I've never heard anyone call the H1 a baby hummer??? I'd love to have one as a toy but wouldn't want to drive that thing every day as it is pretty massive. Never thought a vehicle that is used for real service in the military would be called a baby??

Sorry, my mistake!
I thought they put the duramax in the baby Hummer not into the H1. No, the H1 is not small but still smaller than my truck and serves no real purpose other then polish the macho image of some individuals who have that kind of money to waste. They should give that money to the poor fellas in the tsunami region.... (my opinion).

After spending the last year driving around Iraq in the Military version, I am pretty sure I wont be trading my CC for one any time soon.

General Motors Corp.'s Hummer brand is scheduled to begin selling a midsize sport utility vehicle in the first half of 2005 and is planning a high-performance series of vehicles called Alpha.

The low-volume Alpha series will begin with the 2006 H1 Alpha, which is scheduled for launch in early 2005. The H1 Alpha will be equipped with GM's 6.6-liter Duramax turbo diesel engine, which GM said will provide more power, improved emissions performance and better fuel economy than the H1.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2004/07/27/financial1626EDT0263.DTL
I saw a Duramax powered '05 H1 at the Salt Lake City Auto Show. It has the Duramax name plate just below the driver's side headlight. It was the H1 "station wagon" model and the MSRP was $134K. This H1 also came equipped with a different model of the Allison transmission. The Allison was not the model 1000.

Sorry. For that much money, I could get another used 2500 and mod the heck out of it and mine. Not too mention, probably extra motors and tranny's just sitting around the garage for more play time and extra life.

They need to put the Duramax in the H2. Of course I still couldn't afford one, would just be a good idea. And would be a great toy hauler.

In This Months Motor Trend Mag In We Hear Says About H1 Getting D Max.and Said H2 Would 'likely To Closely Follow' Im Just Waiting For It.looks Like It Would Help H2 Sales. :d

Sorry, my mistake!
I thought they put the duramax in the baby Hummer not into the H1. No, the H1 is not small but still smaller than my truck and serves no real purpose other then polish the macho image of some individuals who have that kind of money to waste. They should give that money to the poor fellas in the tsunami region.... (my opinion).
Polishing macho images huh, ours are put to good use, trust me! :ro)

They should give that money to the poor fellas in the tsunami region.... (my opinion).Please tell me your joking.
While the tsunami situation is horrible and everyone should be willing to give, what sombody else does with thier own money should be thier business and nobody else's. It's called freedom of choice and thank god we still have it here.
Otherwise next time somone may tell you to give up your Duramax, buy somthing less and donate the rest.
Didn't we just go thru this with some French http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/censored.gif #%$*^&$.

Please tell me your joking.
While the tsunami situation is horrible and everyone should be willing to give, what sombody else does with thier own money should be thier business and nobody else's. It's called freedom of choice and thank god we still have it here.
Otherwise next time somone may tell you to give up your Duramax, buy somthing less and donate the rest.
Didn't we just go thru this with some French http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/images/smilies/censored.gif #%$*^&$.
Maybe he is french! :p :eek:

After watching an hummer get driven of a cliff, land on its feet and keep going. I think they have a purpose. Of course, Ive never had the need to drive off a cliff and dont forsee needed that option in a vehicle. I think I would rather take 105k, and oh I dont know....... put a down payment on a friggin house....

sure, you could pump $105k into some street struck like a 2500HD Duramax I drive, and you would end up with a jacked up gaudy POS good for nothing but entering white trash trophy contests. great for driving around Louisiana. but please, the H1 with a Duramax is an extremely capable off road vehicle, and I would rather be in it any day in a remote part of Baja than in my Sierra pickup. hopefully SurfRippa can attest to that . . .

All I have to say is that GM needs to offer more diesel engine options in their light truck lineup. Isuzu could surely come up with something that would fit in the 1/2 tons, such as the pickups and Tahoe/Yukon/Suburbans, and the H2. Compared to the offerings in Europe, us Americans have no choice but to buy a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup to get a diesel.
Even the Trailblazer/Envoy would be a great candidate for a small diesel powerplant.

For that kind of money, I'd buy a real truck....

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/XTFamily/index.asp

For that kind of money, I'd buy a real truck....

http://www.internationaldelivers.com/site_layout/XTFamily/index.asp
Ditto!

Now that is a toyhauler! An H2 pulling anything longer than a 24' TT without a Hensley would be foolish.

I can't believe that I haven't seen any of these rolling around Snottsdale yet with one of those stupid "Got Sand?" stickers in the rear window. :lol:

:exactly:

I have the HD for heavy towing, I need a 1/2 ton for light duty farm work and commuting. Make mine a reg cab stepside with a 200 hp V-6, geared for economy.

All I have to say is that GM needs to offer more diesel engine options in their light truck lineup. Isuzu could surely come up with something that would fit in the 1/2 tons, such as the pickups and Tahoe/Yukon/Suburbans, and the H2. Compared to the offerings in Europe, us Americans have no choice but to buy a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup to get a diesel.
Even the Trailblazer/Envoy would be a great candidate for a small diesel powerplant.

the MSRP was $134K:cookoo:

thats really crazy....

those trucks are indestructible and what not, but cant go on some of the smaller trails that my yukon can go on.

Hi,

Navistar ( International ) trucks are one of the most overpriced low quality pieces of crap on the market!! My Dads company truck cost less than an "Ecomony" model Ïnternational, and it is more of a truck than a 'binder ever will be!! It is a Freightliner Business Class M2, MBE 4000 350HP, 1350 tq @ 1100RPM, and 10speed Eaton Fuller!! What a truck!!

But for the Price of a hummer, I could buy on hell of a MF ( 8480 ) , or 1 big , and 1 small for that matter!!

Just my 2 cents!!

Take care

Will

Maybe he is french! :p :eek:
Don't know what you guys really have against the french - I am NOT french by the way.
Don't get excited too much about my comments about the tsunami and about giving the money instead buying a H1...that was not really serious but kind of
And driving a Hummer H1 in sand (with virtually no power and a huge weight...there are probably 100 vehicles better than the H1 just for driving in the sand...).
That said, lets cut the crap, I don't care about the Hummer and if GM puts a dmax in it still I won't buy it, no even for the same price than a Sierra.....but thats just my opinion and should not offend anybody.....

:exactly:

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:cookoo:

thats really crazy....

those trucks are indestructible and what not, but cant go on some of the smaller trails that my yukon can go on.
they dont need your trails, they make their own :D, Hummers are Badd A$$ (not the Tahoe/Hummer, or "baby Hummer" as mentioned earlier, they are outright crap) and when I finally find that darned elusive Pot 'o Gold, I would get one in a second, now that they have a real power-train, they are just that much better. To each his own, but I think they are sweet ;)

they do have a diesel in the trailblazer it is an intercooloed 3.5 i think ..i know saw a diesel in a trail blazer in costa rica .. i think it was it was 200hp by the kws the guy said.

the same one i think mazda uses ;)

here --> http://www.isuzuperformance.com/isupage/

I found this....

"GM has begun marketing the Isuzu made V6 Diesel under its Duramax name in comparison to less environmentally friendly offerings by Dodge/Cummins and Ford. This appears to foreshadow an increase in the Isuzu made Duramax range to sell on the reputation of the well established and respected 6.6 liter. We can expect to see the 3.0 liter I-4 Isuzu Diesel for small and mid sized pickups and the 1.7 liter Isuzu Diesel in small cars like the Cobalt, under the Duramax name in the near future."

Nice to see a few more diesels out there.

Sure there are dozens of vehicles marketed in the US that are all gassers, whereas the same vehicles outside the US (in Central America, South America, Europe, etc.) have diesel engine options that the US market does not get. Thanks EPA.

It's the United States market that is exceptionally lame with it's lack of diesel offerings.

There are various reasons for this, among them being our high-sulfur content diesel fuel, the EPA's ever-constricting regulations, and the relatively inexpensive cost of gasoline here in the US. If we had to pay the equivalent per gallon that Europeans do, US car/SUV/light truck buyers would be screaming for diesel engine options due to their increased fuel economy. Well, that last statement, at this time, is kind of mundane..for some reason, most likely greed and taxes, pump diesel fuel here in the US is rediculously priced compared to what it was 1-2 years ago. Gasoline costs more to refine than diesel yet we pay more for it at the pump. Just look at the petroleum industry and their current profits. They're rolling in the dough and laughing all the way to the bank at our expense! Right now I'm regretting selling my 2000 Jetta TDI diesel that was getting 48 MPG. My wife drove it 2000 miles a month commuting to/from work and now commutes in a Trailblazer getting 1/3rd the mileage. She used to go almost 2 full weeks on a tank of fuel. The TB needs to be filled up twice a week!

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And driving a Hummer H1 in sand (with virtually no power and a huge weight...there are probably 100 vehicles better than the H1 just for driving in the sand...).


:exactly:

I know you don't like them... The US ARMY needed "something" that was theirs. They needed a "do-all" kinda thing and this is what we got. If one of these and a something else, like a LandCrusier, comes creeping in on you, which are you likely to shoot at first? Show me one truck that looks like it...other than the Lambo from years back. :cool:


There is more to it than meets the eye.........;)



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just my two penny's worth, for that change i think i'd go with something in the internation xt family.:rant: . just an idea.;)

The International? With a 466ci I6 motor that puts out a claimed 220HP/540TQ to attempt to move it's 14,500lb bulk, it makes the H1 seem like a racecar.

All I have to say is that GM needs to offer more diesel engine options in their light truck lineup. Isuzu could surely come up with something that would fit in the 1/2 tons, such as the pickups and Tahoe/Yukon/Suburbans, and the H2. Compared to the offerings in Europe, us Americans have no choice but to buy a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup to get a diesel.
Even the Trailblazer/Envoy would be a great candidate for a small diesel powerplant.
They already exist as others have said, just not in the States. All of the little Holden trucks have diesel options here in Australia. The trucks themselves look exactly like that little Chevy "Denver Max" truck in another thread around here somewhere, the one from Ecuador. That was one of the first things I noticed when I came here is how big everyone is on diesel. Even in the "mini-trucks".