Would anybody be hesitant to jump in and buy a brand new truck with all of the emissions restrictions on it? For a potential first time diesel buyer, it's got me a little scared.

i would say now is the time to buy, why wait untill the new diesel comes out and pay the higher price of the engine and maint issues

I too am going to be a first time diesel owner. I have no qualms about waiting for the new 2007 D/A. I feel confident that GM has done their homework and will produce a great truck with all the smog equipment included. I just bought my DW a new 2007 Yukon and if this is any indication of the fit and finish of the new Sierras we will be OK by waiting for the heavy duties to come out.

RT

I'm not worried about it at all and plan on gettng a GM900/LMM sometime in 2007. I figure that the LMM is not a whole new engine, just another version of the LBZ. While I'm not thrilled about the extra cost of the emisions crap I like the look of the 900 over the 800. I also feel that several years down the road that there will be a sizable difference in resale/trade-in value between a 2007 classic and a 2007 900 model.

At the same time, I doubt if I will purchase before fall, in fact the next truck could wind up being an '08. Hopefully any first year type problems will be known by then.

Why be a first year guinea pig, alot of 07's on the lots and some 06's , even if there are no problems w/the emission stuff your still gonna spend aobut 900 bucks for it and the maintenace for it/

With an extra $3,000 tacked on for emissions plus I think the engine will be slowed down with all that garbage on it not to mention MPG will probably be less to:(

The LD's seem to have had a lot more substantive changes from 800 to 900 series then the HD's.

From everything I've read The HD's retain the same frame/platform but with a different body style and interior. Yet to get that newer styling and interior you pay a higher price and sacrifice incentives. You also sacrifice the ability to get an 8.1 gasser and you risk issues that may surface in the new LMM Duramax.

When you look at it from a practical standpoint the 800 series HD's are looking pretty good right now. Especially the '06's with $4000 cash rebates.

I'm trying to score a 8.1 Classic for the low $30's after incentive. The alternative is to wait for a new HD but it'll be in the mid to high $40's w/Duramax and 8.1 is no longer available. For a $15-20k price difference I think I can settle for the old style!!

I just wish I placed a factory order for a classic with 8.1 when they were still building them.

ya but why buy a 07 classic then you have a new old truck if i could afford to sell my 04 i would buy a new 07 in a heart beat. i would think the only thing that would keep me from buying one is the fact you have to wait on the aftermarket to get things into production but i know the things i put on my truck i would be the first to have them

I too am going to be a first time diesel owner. I have no qualms about waiting for the new 2007 D/A. I feel confident that GM has done their homework and will produce a great truck with all the smog equipment included. I just bought my DW a new 2007 Yukon and if this is any indication of the fit and finish of the new Sierras we will be OK by waiting for the heavy duties to come out.

RT


:exactly:


I cant wait to get my new 07 LMM Duramax!

I'm not worried about it at all and plan on gettng a GM900/LMM sometime in 2007. I figure that the LMM is not a whole new engine, just another version of the LBZ.


Your right Jaybeecon. Thats basically all the new LMM is, is just a different version of the LBZ.

It just has new emmissions additives. It is definately not a completely different re-overhauled motor design which is like some people are suggesting with tons of new problems.
The LMM in the new 07 is based on an already proven LBZ motor.

Only difference comes down to is how well you like that new body style compared to the old body.

Even if you buy the new EFI live program with big custom tunes, the one that is made for the 2006 LBZ Duramax is that same one and compatible with the new 2007 LMM Duramax.;)

I've ordered a new 900LMM crew cab. This will be diesel #3 for me. I'm ready for the new body style and not worried about the LMM.
PJ

i got a question. what is the gm900? and what tranny are they gonna use?

i got a question. what is the gm900? and what tranny are they gonna use?

The current HD style up through the '07 classics are the GM800 style. The 900 is what you get if you buy a new '07 1500 Chevy/GMC as well as the new style HD's that should hit the market around Feb or March. The HD's only have two engines - 6.6 DuraMax designated the LMM mated to the 6 speed Allison tranny or the 6.0 gas (Not sure of the tranny optios on the 6.0)

I wouldn't touch any of the new emissions trucks in there first year of production. I'd wait a year to see how things pan out. Also it would worry me that the gas stations may not have got there fuel distribution right just yet.

Gas stations in New Mexico have had the fuel for about 2 months. We are usually behind the rest of the world by at least 20 years.
I've bought many vehicles when they first came out, i.e. My wife is driving a 2005 Grand Cherokee Hemi, the first one to hit this small town. A few minor problems, but nothing serious. My most serious problems have been the sneaky updates, mid year, like an ABS update that was poorly thought out on a '94 Sonoma. GM bought that one back.
PJ

I've always given new models a year or so for the public to shake them out. Mrs. X and Mr. Y seem to always find some problem that eluded auto test drivers and tracks. Most likely just a me thing.

The HD's only have two engines - 6.6 DuraMax designated the LMM mated to the 6 speed Allison tranny or the 6.0 gas (Not sure of the tranny optios on the 6.0)
There are no tranny options on either engine. The new Gen IV LY6 6.0L gas engine ( 353hp / 373 lb-ft ) comes with the new 6L90 6-speed auto.

i will be getting a new hd as well, i'm not at all worried.

I was lucky enough in my opinion to order an 07 LBZ 3500 C.C. Dually before the production cutoff and she is enroute to the dealer now. I got the 5yr 100,000 warranty, $2000.00 rebate, no "particulate trap" on the exhaust system so it was a no brainer for me.In my personal opinion, while many may disagree with me, I think that the front end on the new heavy duty's are ugly...maybe they'll "grow" on me. That said I wouldn't be "scared" to buy the new model. GM knows that their trucks are their "bread and butter" and will back them up. They have put literally millions of miles on them already in testing prior to production and besides that if yer need a heavy duty...you need a heavy duty ...your only other choice would be to try to find a leftover new"old" style LBZ(like I'm getting) or go with Dodge or Ford:cool: .....good luck!!

It's not like GM is the only one putting up with the new emissions. I wanna see how the new powerstroke and cummins stack up against the LMM.