(Perform A/C System Checks, Replace Accumulator, If Necessary) [Archive] - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

: (Perform A/C System Checks, Replace Accumulator, If Necessary)


GMCSID
08-03-2004, 12:17 PM
<H1>Poor A/C Performance - A/C Will Not Blow Cold Enough (Perform A/C System Checks, Replace Accumulator, If Necessary) #02-01-38-007C - (Jul 27, 2004)</H1>Poor A/C Performance -- A/C Will Not Blow Cold Enough (Perform A/C System Checks, Replace Accumulator if Necessary)


2002-2004 Chevrolet Silverado


2002-2004 GMC Sierra


with 6.6L Diesel Engine (VINs 1, 2 -- RPOs LB7, LLY)


and Denso A/C Compressor


This bulletin is being revised to add part numbers for the hose, bracket and insulator to the Parts Information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-01-38-007B (Section 01 -- HVAC).<A name=ss1-1539443><A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1539443&amp;evc=numSrch#ss1-1539443" target="_blank">
<H5>Condition</A></H5>


Some customers may comment on less than desirable A/C performance, especially when the ambient temperature is above 32°C (90°F).<A name=ss2-1539443><A href="http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1539443&amp;evc=numSrch#ss2-1539443" target="_blank">
<H5>Correction</A></H5>


Perform the following A/C system checks and replace the accumulator with P/N 89018601, if necessary. This new accumulator requires the accumulator bracket, the accumulator insulator and the A/C suction hose to be replaced also.
<UL ="BULLET">
<LI>Check for A/C system leaks.
<LI>Check the A/C system for proper refrigerant charge. This requires recovering the refrigerant to determine charge in system. Refer to Refrigerant Recovery and Recharging in the HVAC sub-section of the Service Manual.
<LI>If no leaks were found and the A/C system is charged to specification, replace the accumulator using the procedure listed below. </LI>[/list]


If normal diagnostics do not lead to a correction, then perform the following A/C system checks.
[list=1]
<LI ="1">Re-calibrate the actuators. Refer to Recalibrating Actuators in the HVAC System - Manual/Automatic sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #904666).
<LI ="1">Inspect the lower A/C condenser deflector for proper installation. The deflector should be positioned at the lower part of the condenser and extend forward into the top of the front bumper and below the two fresh air intake holes.
<LI ="1">Check the engine cooling fan clutch for proper operation. Refer to Fan Clutch Diagnosis in the Engine Cooling sub-section of the Service Manual (SI Document ID #774320).
<LI ="1">If the vehicle is equipped with a front license plate, inspect for proper installation. If the license plate bracket is installed upside down, it will block part of the two fresh air intake holes in the bumper. When the license plate bracket is installed correctly, the writing on the back of the bracket will be upside down. Inspect for material between the radiator and condenser. Remove the top plate to confirm that there is no restriction. A radiator front filled with material will decrease condenser performance.
<LI ="1">Some improvements have been found by lowering the A/C charge from 0.82 kg (1.8 lbs) to 0.73 kg (1.6 lbs).
<LI ="1">Check the low pressure cycling switch for proper operation. The low pressure switch opens at 172-234 kPa (25-34 psi) , which stops compressor operation and closes when the low side pressure reaches 276-310 kPa (40-45 psi). This enables the compressor to turn back on.



<H4>Important</H4>


Compressor clutch engagement cannot be used to determine the status of the low pressure switch. The low pressure switch is one of several inputs to the HVAC control module for A/C request authorization. A/C request is one of several inputs to the powertrain control module (PCM) that control A/C compressor clutch engagement.


Using a scan tool to monitor low pressure switch status while monitoring the low side pressure with the ACR 2000 at the service port and watch the pressure at which the switch opens/closes is imperative to successfully diagnosing the switch.



<LI

jholly
08-03-2004, 02:22 PM
THANK YOU ERIC !!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Jim

bigdog
08-03-2004, 02:46 PM
How do you know if your AC is having this problem. Is it kinda like if you have to ask it is working fine or ??? It does cool but I've been in cars that have had colder AC.

jholly
08-03-2004, 03:20 PM
How do you know if your AC is having this problem. Is it kinda like if you have to ask it is working fine or ??? It does cool but I've been in cars that have had colder AC.

The only way I can get it to cool acceptably when the temps are much over 85F is to keep the recirc on. I had a 1999 1500 and that one would make a meat locker out of the cab in 100+ temps, no recirc, and lower fan speed. This one needs something.

Jim

bigdog
08-03-2004, 05:35 PM
Mine does not keep it meat locker cold but I also have the temps set at 70. I guess I should bring a therometer in the cab with me and see how accurate it is keeping it on hot days.

KTDURAMAX
08-14-2004, 11:32 PM
Thanks!

GMCSID
06-18-2005, 01:23 PM
<TABLE width="100%" border=1>A/C Performance Table - 6.6L


(http://service.gm.com/servlets/BlobShtml?ShtmlFile=1489326&evc=sm&pubid=297&cellId=48459&mspsdsubkey=2164#tab4-1489326)
<TBODY><TR><TH vAlign=bottom align=middle rowSpan=2>Ambient Air Temperature



</TH><TH vAlign=bottom align=middle rowSpan=2>Relative Humidity



</TH><TH vAlign=bottom align=middle colSpan=2>Service Port Pressure



</TH><TH vAlign=bottom align=middle rowSpan=2>Maximum Discharge Air Temperature



</TH></TR><TR><TH vAlign=bottom align=middle>Low Side



</TH><TH vAlign=bottom align=middle>High Side



</TH></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>13-18°C (55-65°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>0-100%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>150-279 kPa (22-41 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>420-1140 kPa (61-165 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>9°C (48°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2>19-24°C (66-75°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Below 40%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>150-298 kPa (22-43 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>531-1240 kPa (77-180 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>11°C (52°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Above 40%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>176-366 kPa (26-53 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>760-1510 kPa (110-219 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>14°C (57°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=3>25-29°C (76-85°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Below 35%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>216-359 kPa (31-52 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>990-1550 kPa (143-225 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>15°C (59°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>35-50%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>250-382 kPa (36-55 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1130-1640 kPa (164-238 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>16°C (61°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Above 50%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>275-430 kPa (40-62 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1230-1820 kPa (178-264 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>18°C (64°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=3>30-35°C (86-95°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Below 30%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>287-434 kPa (42-63 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1350-1930 kPa (195-280 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>19°C (66°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>30-50%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>311-463 kPa (45-67 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1440-2040 kPa (209-296 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>21°C (70°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Above 50%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>342-506 kPa (50-73 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1560-2190 kPa (226-318 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>23°C (73°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=3>36-41°C (96-105°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Below 20%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>366-506 kPa (53-73 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1750-2300 kPa (254-334 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>23°C (73°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>20-40%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>382-531 kPa (55-77 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1800-2390 kPa (261-347 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>25°C (77°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Above 40%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>409-557 kPa (59-81 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>1900-2480 kPa (276-360 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>27°C (81°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle rowSpan=2>42-46°C (106-115°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Below 20%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>452-575 kPa (66-84 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>2180-2660 kPa (316-386 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>27°C (81°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Above 20%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>465-599 kPa (68-87 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>2220-2730 kPa (322-396 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>29°C (84°F)



</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=center align=middle>47-49°C (116-120°F)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>Below 30%



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>535-629 kPa (78-91 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>2580-2900 kPa (375-421 psi)



</TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle>30°C (86°F)



</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>