Purchased my truck about 3 weeks ago, and got a letter from the DMV with my title, but requesting I call them and send the appropriate fee for the GVWR of the truck. According to the VIN check, its rated at 9,200 GVWR. The Wisconsin DOT gave me the choice of 4600, 6000, or 8000. The only rating above that is 12,000 and is for dual purpose farm only. If I register it at the 8,000 gvwr, and load it up to capacity, could I get in trouble if I am stopped?

My truck weighs 8200 as It equiped. I registered mine for 10K to be legal. When I purchased the truck I received the standard 6K license. Why would they give you a plate that isn't heavy enough for the empty truck in the first place? Oh well I guess you can't expect much these days. I would go at least 10K-

In PA I regitered mine as class 2, 7000#, that saves me about $80 per year. It has no impact on how much I tow. I have never in 15 years been weighed in any state (I was in the Navy so thats a lot of states).

It varies state to state and I have been weighed many times while pulling my trailor. In Iowa your truck must be licenced heavy enough to cover any weight imposed on the truck. If your truck is used for comercial use it's a completely different set of rules however. Check with your local authorities-

In PA I regitered mine as class 2, 7000#, that saves me about $80 per year. It has no impact on how much I tow. I have never in 15 years been weighed in any state (I was in the Navy so thats a lot of states).
Ditto, in IN

8k if you want vanity platesis the only choice. 10k or 12kit you need it but watch out big $$. All our 2500's are @ 8k.

I also have mine registered for 8K here in WI. Go for it. Mines not used for hauling anything except my camper, so it has not been a problem.

Hmmm, I still have to register mine...don't think WI would like it if I transfered my S10 plates though. Usually the police don't pay attention...but if you had an officer that wanted to be a ****, fines stack up really fast!!!

Mine is for 12,000 here in MO. What is considered expensive to you guys? I think it only costs me like $50 and we can do ours for two years.

I have to pay around $400 a year out here in AZ.

I have to pay around $400 a year out here in AZ.
WOW! That sucks! I know when I lived in Indiana, it went by the year of your vehicle.

394 for mine in CA i got the none legal resident form to go with it... shoudl cut it a big chunk out of it.

All vehicle tags in FL are based on the actual weight of the truck, not on what it can haul or tow. My dually is $77

$198.00 for two years 16,000 GVW in New York (the state not the city)

All vehicle tags in FL are based on the actual weight of the truck, not on what it can haul or tow. My dually is $77Not entirely true. The first time I tagged it for the full year, they had it a 11,400 lbs. for a total of $104.70. This year, since I don't haul anything, I tagged it at 7,999 lbs. (8,000 is the break point). It cost me $77.10.

32K GCW here in NE :D . Can go higher if need be for $1 per 1000lbs.

I think I paid $56 for my plates this year. I transferred my plates from my 1500 when I bought this truck for a $5 fee. In OH, over 8600 GVW is supposed to cost more, but they never questioned it when I transferred the plates in March or renewed them in July. I think the price jumps around $30 a year for the over 8600 GVW plates. I'm not sure, but I think around 12,000 GVW is when they bump you into commercial plates. That's where they can really poke you on registration fees!

The Dealer automatically licenced mine for 8K. When I questioned them they said that's what they always licence them, who's going to know!
Talked to a County Sheriff deputy and a WI State Police and they both said, "Who's going to know, ............BUT, it's not legal to be >8K if checked, and someone could make it an issue.
My truck, with family and 12.5K 5ver, and sometimes firewood get me up to 10K, so that's the licence I got.
Cost in WI for the 10K lbs is around $117, as opposed to around $85 for the 8K lbs.

Not entirely true. The first time I tagged it for the full year, they had it a 11,400 lbs. for a total of $104.70. This year, since I don't haul anything, I tagged it at 7,999 lbs. (8,000 is the break point). It cost me $77.10.

Then someone screwed up at the tag office. Trucks are categorized in 12 weight groups and priced accordingly. Someone looked at your GVWR and computed your tag on that rather than your actual weight. Believe me, you are not charged based on what you tow or haul in a pickup.

Then someone screwed up at the tag office. Trucks are categorized in 12 weight groups and priced accordingly. Someone looked at your GVWR and computed your tag on that rather than your actual weight. Believe me, you are not charged based on what you tow or haul in a pickup.

In FL you pay by net wt up to 5000# only. Our trucks are fall under class 41 (over 5000# net wt) and are registered by GVW and run per calendar year Dec-Dec.
http://www3.hsmv.state.fl.us/Intranet/dmv/Forms/BTR/Milpak/83140.pdf

I also have a USF plate which adds another $30 to my registration annually.
On the bright side, no personal property tax in FL to jack up your renewal like some other states.

Then someone screwed up at the tag office. Trucks are categorized in 12 weight groups and priced accordingly. Someone looked at your GVWR and computed your tag on that rather than your actual weight. Believe me, you are not charged based on what you tow or haul in a pickup.As I understand it, my truck is rated to carry up to 11,400 lbs. (including the weight of the truck, passengers, etc.). If I want to carry a load that puts me at or near 11,400 then I had better be tagged at that weight. As it sits now, I'm tagged at 7,999. If I'm stopped and weighed, and I tip at 9,000, then I'm in trouble. I spoke to Florida DMV and Florida DOT, as well as a 3500 driver that hauls in Florida. They all said the same thing. Tag your rig for what you are hauling, not what your truck weighs.

Remember:
Gross Vehicle Weight is the total weight of the loaded vehicle. This includes the vehicle itself and the cargo that is loaded within that vehicle.

Curb Weight is the actual weight of the truck without any passengers or cargo in it. It’s the base weight that is used in subtraction to calculate the total weight of the vehicle with passengers and cargo.

Someone may have "screwed up at the tag office", but not on my tag.

In IL a b truck plate is 78 dollars a year good for 8,000 lb. a D truck plate is 120 bucks a year and give you to 12,000lb. With the d plate you ahve to get a safety sticker every 6 months (about 18 bucks per time, 38 a year.) ON the new 2500hd i went w/the safe side and put Dplates on it. Yeah you got to run safety lane and more plate expense but cheaper then fines. Local county got a set of scales and fines add up quick. Whoever said you dont plate based on waht you haul on these trucks is crazy. Why dont they plate semi tractors for 30,000lbs since that is waht they weigh??????? Most of the time you probably wont get bothered but it only takes one good zing to hurt you. You can always plate higher then your trucks gvrw but that doesnt give you the right to haul it. Sayu your truck weighs 6500 lbs gvrw 9500. With 8000 lb plates you can put another 1500lbs on your truck. Say you have 12000 lb plates on your truck you can still only technically legally haul the gvrw 9500. You could theoretically put z plates 80000 lb plates on your truck if you wanted to but you would never make bridge law (distance spacing on axles) and your are over your gvrw. Your licenseplate or your gvrw will limit what your truck technically can weigh. Granted alot of people pull goosnecks w/b plates but dont make it right.

Here in TX, personal registration for pickups is based on the cargo capacity so 1/2 tons are 1k lbs, 3/4 tons are 1500 lbs, etc. Registration is $72 per year where I live....

Here In Louisiana Most People Run A 6000# Plate. Personally I Run 10000# Plates Which Are Alot More. I Am Still Overloaded When Pulling My Camper, But If I Get Weighed Then I Will Pay The Fine. We Have To Renew Our B Plates (10000)every June Where As A Private Plate (6000) Is Renewed Every 4 Years.

My gosh with all these different standards state to state how would anybody know what is right???? :eek:

I just put tags on my 86 K30 and the only thing they asked me was "is it a 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton"? I told them 1ton and they put 2000lbs on the title.


SuperBurban

Yeah and when going from state to state w/weigh stations it gets really confusing 1/2 time cops dont know awhtat whcih plate means w/o looiking it up...fubar comes to mind

In North Carolina it is also "I think this is right". I moved from an S-10 to my Titan, kept the tag non weighted. Although nearly all of my friends and co-workers have weighted tags on their 1/2 tons. Went to get plates on the Dmax and fully expected to get weighted tags which are more $$$'s. The clerk starts processing the license to transfer non-weighted. Fearing future trouble I asked about the size and weight of the Dmax. She had me go out and get the GVWR. I gave her the 9200 lbs and she starts yelling across the room to everyone else "9200 should this truck be weighted?" after about a 5 minute discussion and a phone call to the DMV for clarification they asked, "do you haul commercial, for profit or work?" I replied "No, but I may haul personal up to 3000 lbs on the truck and tow up to 10,000 lbs."
No problem, I get the cheaper license, cheaper insurance and my registration actually has printed on it, personal use GVWR up to 9200 lbs. I also got a few pisssed off friends becuase they all have the weighted plates. ??? I am not completely sure anyone know the rules.

I agree this is one subject with about as much gray area as tax laws have.
Anyone you ask here will give you a different answer, anyone at the dmv will give you a different answer. No one seems to be right or wrong, it is all based on how things were interpreted for everyone's needs.

timzr02, I'm also in NC. My plates are $295/year registration, based on 19K lbs gross combined weight.
I specifically called NC DMV about this topic, after seeing a 2500 with non-weighted NC plates in a parking log one day. Those are $25/year and no weight issues for the trailer. I was told by the DMV official (over the phone, no, not in writing) that I HAD to have weighted plates.
It is a huge revenue generator for NC to do this, and nobody REALLY knows "the truth." I wish we had a NC traffic lawyer as a member of this forum. Maybe somebody could try to understand what the law really says.
To the best of my understanding, you are running illegally. Whether it can bite you in the butt is anyone's guess. I'd be running the same way if I could have bought those plates, but our DMV wouldn't sell them to me.
The other "scam" is to run farm plates. My buddy did that, they are really cheap. Drove everywhere all the time. He didn't care. He was never stopped. I can't believe it would be pretty if he had been stopped. He moved to TN a few months ago. I wonder what he is running now.

I just payed $87.66 for my truck today. and I'm registered at 8k:rolleyes:

timzr02, I'm also in NC. My plates are $295/year registration, based on 19K lbs gross combined weight.
I specifically called NC DMV about this topic, after seeing a 2500 with non-weighted NC plates in a parking log one day. Those are $25/year and no weight issues for the trailer. I was told by the DMV official (over the phone, no, not in writing) that I HAD to have weighted plates.
It is a huge revenue generator for NC to do this, and nobody REALLY knows "the truth." I wish we had a NC traffic lawyer as a member of this forum. Maybe somebody could try to understand what the law really says.
To the best of my understanding, you are running illegally. Whether it can bite you in the butt is anyone's guess. I'd be running the same way if I could have bought those plates, but our DMV wouldn't sell them to me.
The other "scam" is to run farm plates. My buddy did that, they are really cheap. Drove everywhere all the time. He didn't care. He was never stopped. I can't believe it would be pretty if he had been stopped. He moved to TN a few months ago. I wonder what he is running now.

Where you can get in trouble with the NC First In Flight Tag (Non Weighted which is 4000, 5000 or 6000 LBS) is if you get stopped and weighed on the road. If your truck weighs say 7000 lbs. and you have a 4000 LB. tag you are alowed a 500 lb. tolerance on the 4000 LBS., so lets do the math. 7000-4500= 2500 LBS. over tag weight. Most of those people in the DMV Tag office don't have a clue what you are going to haul. They sale tags and don't enforce the laws. They can give out some bad info. It is up to you to put a tag on the truck that will cover the truck and the load. For years you could run the small tags on the big pick ups but now if you buy a new truck the tag office makes you get a big enough tag to atleast cover the shipping weight of the truck. They realized they were losing lots of money.

That is basically what the salesman advised me when I bought the truck new. His son is a Highway Patrolman in our area. He told me don't plate it for less than 10K as NC is tired of the loss of revenue and does go after pickup trucks. I figure they wouldn't bother me for a short trip from Lowes, but when hauling a loaded dump trailer obviously filled to capacity, I'd expect to get weighed if I came across the DOT mobile units. So I bit the bullet and plated at 19K as soon as I bought the 12K dump trailer. I hate spending that money on plates every year, but I would hate much worse getting the big ticket for being overweight. Sometimes we just have to give away our money. I don't know how the small to middle size hauling and excavating services can afford plates for all their trucks. You have to do a lot of work just to pay off the plates every year. No wonder a guy charged me $600 to haul a couple loads of mulch which probably actually cost $200 total. Now I haul my one, like it much better that way.

Purchased my truck about 3 weeks ago, and got a letter from the DMV with my title, but requesting I call them and send the appropriate fee for the GVWR of the truck. According to the VIN check, its rated at 9,200 GVWR. The Wisconsin DOT gave me the choice of 4600, 6000, or 8000. The only rating above that is 12,000 and is for dual purpose farm only. If I register it at the 8,000 gvwr, and load it up to capacity, could I get in trouble if I am stopped?
I have the 10,000 lb. rating on my 2500HD and pull a 27 ft. 5th wheel camper and a 24 ft. gooseneck trailer with a gross trailer weight of 16,000.WI DOT won't hesitate to weigh you (have gone through this before).I also drive truck for a living and have seen the suprised look on pick-up truck owners face as he is being weighed.Go with the 10,000 rating you'll be fine

Just cause your plated for udner 10,000 lbs and technically dont have to stop at the scales dont be suprised if a trooper comes out and makes sure yoru under 10,000 lbs and dindnt have to weigh

Wow I hope other states honer out of state plates as they pass through. In Oregon we just pay the registeration fee for our truck, car or what have you, dont know the fee for sure but around $50. They dont ask weight rating or what you are pulling. No scales to stop at unless you are doing it comercially. of course we have an income taxs not sales taxs.

In Colorado, they have no options. Your truck or car is registered and you are charged for what it worth...I got to pay $960 for my FIRST year's registration.

Last year it went down to $250 :eek:

In Colorado, they have no options. Your truck or car is registered and you are charged for what it worth...I got to pay $960 for my FIRST year's registration.

Last year it went down to $250 :eek:

Sounds like what Arizona does. Sucks don't it? My daughters both live in Colorado. Nice to visit but I think I'll stick with Illinois...

NC registration is based on combined weight of truck, trailer, and all cargo. Sounds like WI registration is truck alone. Every state has it's own way of taking your money.

I run commercial out of MO and run a 24K beyond local tag. Truck has to be state inspected once a year for $12. Tag cost $104 per year. DOT truck inspection runs $20 per year. Not bad here, I scale in alot of states, better to be legal than spend cash at a scale house.

If you have a 2500 HD... (mine is GVWR 9200)... how do you register at 10k? You are over the GVWR. In NY you can not register over the GVWR of 9200. And even if you could register it, DOT will write you for being over the GVWR. and over axel and over tire rating... they got us coming and going...

As mine sits stock with my personal stuff + half a tank of fuel, I am 7200 pounds... registered 9200... I am ok gross but real close on the front axle and pretty close on the rear axle...

from what I've seen they don't enforce this much in florida.

Sometimes i feel like cops have nothing better to do.

I have 36000 lb plates here in missouri for $276 a year.