Which has proven to be the best the juice package or the banks six gun?

Welcome to the forum...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif


The search function will get you lots of results about these two modules, but here are a couple of threads to get you started:


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3071&KW=Banks+Six+Gun


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11458&KW=Banks+Six+Gun

Which has proven to be the best the juice package or the banks six gun?


Welcome...........


Ya had ta ask it didn't ya http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif


Seriously,


Look around, it has been one of our more recent topics of heated discussion..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





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Edge

edge........

Edge, hands down... But you can install anything you want...Edited by: GMC2500HD

Haven't ridden in one with an Edge, but from what everyone's saying, it's got some "stank" compared to the Banks.


Anyone in AK want to play? My game plan is to replace the Banks once the tranny gives up the ghost and I go to a suncoast upgrade on it. It'll be a while though.

The two are in completely different categories. The Edge by a long shot (Pun intended)http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

edge.....

That is what I have been reading. I think that I am going with the EDGEhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Ahhh, Edgehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

What about the tire size are you able to change it with the Edge?


Or is this something that I need to even worry about?


I have the 245's and I am wanting to put some 285's on later.

You can correct for tire size with the Attitude, but it only displays on the Attitude, not your speedo...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Edge.....with attitude of coursehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

How long has the "EDGE" been available compared to the "Banks Six Gun"????


How many of those who said "EDGE" have tried the "BAnks Six Gun"?


I have neither, so wherever the chips fall is ok with me.

I was reading some old post about when it is time to take the truck back to the dealer for any reason that they had to take stuff off and then plug holes and hide wires. This makes me not want to even fool with the edge and just go with the Superchip since no one favors the Hypertech.


PLEASE HELP http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif I want more POWER to play with but not the hassle if I have to take it to the Dr.

If I were you, you might want to consider something like the Predator or the Bully Dog Programmer as well if you do not want to have to remove anything for service or other issues. Just my opinion...

How long has the "EDGE" been available


Years, maybe 2 1/2 years


compared to the "Banks Six Gun"????


months, about 4 or 5 months


How many of those who said "EDGE" have tried the "BAnks Six Gun"?


I have neither, so wherever the chips fall is ok with me.

It's not hard to remove the 6 gun. A bit harder if you have the speed loader as well.





Everyone says the Edge is faster. MTomac has an edge and some other sh*t, and he's got a 11 second truck... I'd be inclined to go with the edge if speed is what you need.


I go faster than alot of things... so I'm happy where I'm at.

Edge......


Ever since 60HP module was out.


Never tried the 6 shooter because it wasn't available at the purchase of my exhaust time.


Besides... it is a matter of economics with a 6 gun you need to add gauges... with the Juice and attitude... they are built in!


KISS principle applies here (that and the 30 seconds to remove on a trip to you-know-where!)

With a Edge it is just computer ports to plug in to your truck is that right? Is there any drilling into the "header", When I was first looking I took it as a plug in and play deal. But now reading other post I am thinking that I will have drilling.


Is there anyone here in the Athens Ga area that has the Juice or passing thru??? I would like to see one that is already on a truck.

If I were you, you might want to consider something like the Predator or the Bully Dog Programmer as well if you do not want to have to remove anything for service or other issues. Just my opinion...





YOU BETTER REMOVE YOUR PREDATOR OR B/D PROGRAM BEFORE YOU TAKE IT IN FOR SERVICE.

With a Edge it is just computer ports to plug in to your truck is that right? Is there any drilling into the "header", When I was first looking I took it as a plug in and play deal. But now reading other post I am thinking that I will have drilling.


Is there anyone here in the Athens Ga area that has the Juice or passing thru??? I would like to see one that is already on a truck.





YES, it is just plug and play, 2 plugs to your engine, 1 to the Attitude (Guages) and the thermo couple.


You have to drill a hole and tap for an 1/8 th fitting into the right exhaust manifold. THAT IS IT.


I can take my entire Edge/Attitude out for service in 10 minutes tops. Put a 1/8 inch brass plug in the manifold and its back to stock.


I dont mean to be a smart azz here but I cant think of any other way to say it. If the above steps are too much trouble, then maybe you should leave it stock.


JMHO no flames intended. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Drilling the manifold and tapping it was significantly easier than I thought it would be. Whatever you get, you will enjoy the kick in the pants that it gives. There's nothing like smoking a 3500 lb car in a 7900 lb truck.. :)

HDNate is right- it only takes a few minutes to take the Edge module out. Don'tcha wish Aaron would have put a QD on the PYRO leads so we could leave the pyro probe in and just take out the module? Once the leads are screwed together,and heat shrinked, ya don't want to cut the heat shrink off to unscrew the screws.
Call your dealer before going in for service and ask him if they care if you have a power mod.(They pro'lly do but ya never know ) My dealer has actually installed some power mods for customers.. Edited by: Zip from Tenn

Talked to Gale Banks recently in person. I learned a few things about the Edge that I'm not too happy about, and now I'm seeing that they are not exactly advertising truthful. For instance, Edge says they have safeguards to pull full out of the engine if EGT's get too hot. Banks claims that what's really happening is that the STOCK computer is doing this, not the EDGE system. Plus, for all of you that think black exhaust is good, from what I'm reading, this is simply too much fuel, injected too late, which is buring in the exhaust port and into the exhuast (causing super high egt's). Fuel buring in the exhaust port doesn't do a thing for power, other than hurt parts.


I'm leaning more and more to the Banks system. I think he's pretty savy when it comes to diesel power.

If I were you, you might want to consider something like the Predator or the Bully Dog Programmer as well if you do not want to have to remove anything for service or other issues. Just my opinion...





YOU BETTER REMOVE YOUR PREDATOR OR B/D PROGRAM BEFORE YOU TAKE IT IN FOR SERVICE.





Oh I know, I remove all my stuff before I take my truck in. Also I am not to worried about the service guy, he knows about all the stuff in my truck and has all the same stuff in his. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Talked to Gale Banks recently in person. I learned a few things about the Edge that I'm not too happy about, and now I'm seeing that they are not exactly advertising truthful. For instance, Edge says they have safeguards to pull full out of the engine if EGT's get too hot. Banks claims that what's really happening is that the STOCK computer is doing this, not the EDGE system. Plus, for all of you that think black exhaust is good, from what I'm reading, this is simply too much fuel, injected too late, which is buring in the exhaust port and into the exhuast (causing super high egt's). Fuel buring in the exhaust port doesn't do a thing for power, other than hurt parts.


I'm leaning more and more to the Banks system. I think he's pretty savy when it comes to diesel power.





This is one of the reasons this forum is so valuable...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif


First the Edge doesn't do any of the actual computer functions, nor does it claim to. It merely modifies the data going between the components and the computers on your truck. I think you'll find that the Six Gun operates in exactly the same way, as does any module.


Second the black smoke thing is just the low boost fueling, and is something Edge did because some people like smoky trucks. It does get you a little better low end response, but that setting is user adjustable and can be set so it doesn't smoke. In my experience, the low boost fuel setting doesn't seem to affect the high end EGT's.


I don't doubt that Gale is a pretty savvy person to get where he is and Peter T. from Banks, who posts here, is no dummy either but they are both SELLING a competing product.


Do your home work on the various options open to you and how they work, as well as looking at the feedback from various users. Then you'll have to decide which product will best fit your needs on your own, knowing that what you have is the result of your own research, not a sales pitch.


Just my two cents...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


edited for sp...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifEdited by: Zeeb

There's no question in my mind that Edge is a better speed box. I'm wondering if anyone has used both for towing and which is better for that duty. I'm not going to race my truck and I'm happy to live vicariously through you guys that do. But, I do use it for towing and if one box is superior to another for that purpose I'd like to know.

TC

Tsckey,


Have you tried the search engine?


There have been several threads about the comparison of the two, as well as write ups on just the Six Gun and the latest release version of it.


Some of them got quite heated, but there's dyno data and responses from the above mentioned Peter T. of Banks engineering group. I'd take a look at those threads and see what you think. If there is a clear answer to your question, I've not seen it. Each system has it's proponents and opponents...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


edit info:


On second thought if all you want is increased towing capability, have you considered the TTS Tow Tune?


It's an ECM re-flash but the guys who have it are raving about it, and I've not seen any negative feedback about it on the forum...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifEdited by: Zeeb

Talked to Gale Banks recently in person. I learned a few things about the Edge that I'm not too happy about, and now I'm seeing that they are not exactly advertising truthful. For instance, Edge says they have safeguards to pull full out of the engine if EGT's get too hot. Banks claims that what's really happening is that the STOCK computer is doing this, not the EDGE system. Plus, for all of you that think black exhaust is good, from what I'm reading, this is simply too much fuel, injected too late, which is buring in the exhaust port and into the exhuast (causing super high egt's). Fuel buring in the exhaust port doesn't do a thing for power, other than hurt parts.


I'm leaning more and more to the Banks system. I think he's pretty savy when it comes to diesel power. See, now you made yourself look like a Banks employeehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif A newbie coming in here and talking up Banks while running down their competition. You have one side and preach as if it is the truth. How about learning from both unless you do in-fact work for Banks.

Talked to Gale Banks recently in person. I learned a few things about the Edge that I'm not too happy about, and now I'm seeing that they are not exactly advertising truthful. For instance, Edge says they have safeguards to pull full out of the engine if EGT's get too hot. Banks claims that what's really happening is that the STOCK computer is doing this, not the EDGE system. Plus, for all of you that think black exhaust is good, from what I'm reading, this is simply too much fuel, injected too late, which is buring in the exhaust port and into the exhuast (causing super high egt's). Fuel buring in the exhaust port doesn't do a thing for power, other than hurt parts.


I'm leaning more and more to the Banks system. I think he's pretty savy when it comes to diesel power.


See, now you made yourself look like a Banks employeehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif A newbie coming in here and talking up Banks while running down their competition. You have one side and preach as if it is the truth. How about learning from both unless you do in-fact work for Banks.


I don't work for Banks, just passing on a conversation I had with Gale himself at the recent Foothill Dodge car show that I stopped by. What is with some of you on this site, ie Mikey? I post a simple conversation and now I'm working for them? What exactly are you saying? That I have some motive to sell Bank's units? For your information Mikey, I have the EDGE unit and am very happy with it, I could give a rats ass if you bought a Banks or an Edge product. Amazin how threatened you get if something is posted that possily you know nothing about. On another note, I have talked to the Edge people more than Banks, but I do find it strange that they don't have in-house dynos, nor build motors like Banks does..


Are you having a bad day, or just pissed that you live in Ohio? Edited by: duramaxtom

On another note, I have talked to the Edge people more than Banks, but I do find it strange that they don't have in-house dynos, nor build motors like Banks does..





Hmm...


What makes you think Edge doesn't have a dyno?


Unless I was having an out of body experience, they have a very nice dyno facility. I couldn't say if they build engines or not since I haven't seen the whole place, but I've been in their dyno shop and control room. They had a Dodge on the rollers when I was there...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif

They sub out the dyno work according to Tony, their in house engineer.

Edge has lots of engineers, I've met a half dozen of them as well as the company president, while I was in the Beta test program for the LLY.


It would be reasonable to assume they do sub out some work especially in other areas of the Country since the altitude at Ogden can produce some different results than at Sea Level, the LLY turbo bark is one that showed up on some trucks running at lower altitudes. Couldn't say for sure where they might do that, but the last time I was up there, one of the engineers I needed to chat with was in Phoenix.

I don't work for Banks, just passing on a conversation I had with Gale himself at the recent Foothill Dodge car show that I stopped by. What is with some of you on this site, ie Mikey? I post a simple conversation and now I'm working for them? What exactly are you saying? That I have some motive to sell Bank's units? For your information Mikey, I have the EDGE unit and am very happy with it, I could give a rats ass if you bought a Banks or an Edge product. Amazin how threatened you get if something is posted that possily you know nothing about. On another note, I have talked to the Edge people more than Banks, but I do find it strange that they don't have in-house dynos, nor build motors like Banks does..


Are you having a bad day, or just pissed that you live in Ohio?


With the name calling you appear to be a 16 year old that gets to drive daddy`s truck on the weekendhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Seeing that you have your mind made up, just go buy the banks and have fun getting beat by those with the Edge, because if you run any of them, you will lose, and that is not a stab at you, just a clear as glass fact.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


Oh and the Ohio crack, shows the lack of intelligent you really do havehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Broken Heart.gifEdited by: hdmax

HD


wonder what he would have to say about an OKIEhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


Genohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

I won't lose if I run ya with my banks :)





Just gotta make sure my wife hooks the chain around your rear axle right... LOL

Yeah, I'm 16 and its my daddy's truck.. Yep, that's it. Ohio is a nice place to live too. So nice that property values have dropped in the last 10 years whereas the rest of the country home values have tripled.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


Peter T. posted an interesting comparison recently in another forum where they tested all the competitors units for a LLY or LB7. I'll see if I can find it and post.

<DIV>Here it is, I found the post at TDR psted by Peter T., pretty interesting information. This was for the new Dodge 04.5 trucks so its not for our Duramax motors, but I thought the comparison and test was pretty interesting in any event.</DIV>
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<DIV>AGAIN HD, I own a EDGE PRODUCT AND DON'T work for BANKS, Okay?? (now go outside and enjoy the humidity http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif)</DIV>
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<DIV>....For those that have been waiting for Six-Gun data on the 305 HP and the 325/600, I believe that I can shed a little light on the situation. There have been a couple of twists in the way that we have gathered the data with the new calibration. Traditionally we have presented data that is acquired via load dyno testing. That means that the engine is brought to full throttle, load is placed on the rear wheels such that a specific RPM is attained for a specified period of time to ensure stability, then readings are taken. The first data that we published from testing on the 235 was gathered in that fashion.

But many people use acceleration dynos or on-board acceleration analyzers to test their vehicles. Acceleration tests, while being a viable means of comparison testing, only really give you peak horsepower information. If that is all that you are looking for in a back-to-back comparison, then acceleration testing is worth using. Shortly after we released the first version of the Six-Gun, some people expressed a desire for more aggressive acceleration characteristics. We did some tweaking and tuning and came up with a new calibration for all the horsepower ratings.

The new calibration in the highest settings cannot easily be tested on a load dyno because the stock transmission will slip under full load conditions. This means two things: The Six-Gun set at its highest levels is not recommended for use while towing, and the easiest way to present the horsepower data is with an acceleration test. The stock transmission functions nicely under light truck drag race conditions and during acceleration dyno tests.

Here is some info that we gathered from acceleration tests that you may find interesting:

Test vehicle: 2003 3500 235 automatic, 2wd, dually

Peak HP, Acceleration test
Stock: 170.5 HP
Banks Six-Gun (L6 w/ Speed-Loader): 287.1 HP (+116.6)
Edge EZ (highest settings): 264.7 HP (+94.2)
Bullydog Torque Dog (highest settings): 272.3 HP (+101.8)

0-60 MPH
Stock: 15.04 sec
Banks Six-Gun (L6 w/ Speed-Loader): 9.25 sec
Edge EZ (highest settings): 10.37 sec
Bullydog Torque Dog (highest settings): 9.98 sec

¼ Mile
Stock: 20.86 sec @ 70.4 MPH
Banks Six-Gun (L6 w/ Speed-Loader): 17.38 sec @ 81.2 MPH
Edge EZ (highest settings): 17.98 sec @ 78.3 MPH
Bullydog Torque Dog (highest settings): 17.73 sec @ 80.1 MPH

Peak EGT (observed on ¼ mile run)
Stock: 1180 degrees
Banks: 1310 degrees
Edge: 1368 degrees
Bullydog: 1415 degrees


Test vehicle: 2003 3500 305 automatic, 2wd, dually
(Note: This truck was equipped with a Banks Monster Exhaust, BigHead Actuator and a Ram-Air filter for all tests)

Peak HP, Acceleration test
Stock: 218.6 HP
Banks Six-Gun (L6 w/ Speed-Loader): 306.5 HP (+87.9)
Edge EZ (highest settings): 292.5 HP (+73.9)
Bullydog Torque Dog (highest settings): 299.9 HP (+81.3)

0-60 MPH
Stock: 10.18 sec
Banks Six-Gun (L6 w/ Speed-Loader): 8.00 sec
Edge EZ (highest settings): 8.35 sec
Bullydog Torque Dog (highest settings): 8.16 sec

¼ Mile
Stock: 17.82 sec @ 80.6 MPH
Banks Six-Gun (L6 w/ Speed-Loader): 16.19 sec @ 90.2 MPH
Edge EZ (highest settings): 16.48 sec @ 87.9 MPH
Bullydo

From looking at the dyno numbers it seems that the Edge delivers it's highest HP and Torque ratings at much higher RPMs than the Banks. Does that mean the Banks would be better for towing and the Edge would be better for racing? I am really more interested in the towing and the power available in the 1800-2000 rpm range. This seems to be where Banks provides the power. Any thoughts?

There are two versions of the Six-Gun. The 1st version is what I'd prefer if I wanted it stricly for towing and to be emisions legal. The 2nd version has the 'RACE' tune programmed in it. Personally, I like it. It has plenty of power for me to play with on occasion and I tow with it in level 3 which seems to work out great for me. I have had to crank it up to level 6 once to merge back on to the freeway and with the trailer, the power down low surprised the @#$% out of me. This was with the 1st version (I've had it reprogrammed to the 2nd).


My personal conclusion is to go with the Banks unit (Version 1) for towing. I liked the automatic safety features built in. I know the Edge will also let you know when it gets to hot or the tranny starts slipping (correct me if I'm wrong guys) but if your busy scoot'n around traffic I'd rather it start backing off on the power on it's own. I have'nt been in one with the Edge so I can't comment beyond that.

Braz,


All these questions have been covered before, with the accompanying barbs you've seen here in this thread.


You really ought to try the search engine for those previous threads, but I'll give you brief break down. The Banks was supposed to be better for towing due to where it produces power. The biggest question had to do with whether or not you could keep the engine in that range with an Allison. The ZF boys can leave it where they want it, the Allison wants to downshift.


It still comes down to what YOU think is best.


Edited by: Zeeb

Why do people still insist that for racing, you need to get the Edge? PeterT posted his results from the Banks racebox vs. several other brands including Edge w/attitude. I've found the same outcome racing an Edge. It probably sounds like I'm just backing Banks all the way, but that's not true. When I got my 6-gun version 1, I WAS dissappointed by the results and I posted that. But it was more of a tow box than a race box. From what I can tell, the Banks racebox level 5 runs with the Edge w/attitude 125hp. Level 6 on the Banks has got to be very close to the Edge Hot. You won't go wrong with either.

Scotty,


I think a lot of the people posting here are not aware of the revised six-gun's performance. The first release got a bad rap because it's advertised 155HP was slower than the Edge's 125.....which you well know.


And I will say it again...so far for me, 12K miles with the 6 gun and zero issues. I haven't gotten the software upgrade yet but it's in the plans.


To each his own! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Scotty and Fred, are you going to the Bank's employee picnic this weekend? Mikey-Hdmax might join us at the picnic


Sorry, had to make that remark after seeing your above posts. . Afterall, since you have noted good results from a company that is not HD's favorite, YOU MUST BE AN EMPLOYEE OF BANKS!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif


Question, how much time does it take to do the install of the Banks? I'm thinking of selling my Edge (gasp!), and getting the banks. I'm not so interested in absolute power, but more interested in the lower EGT's that banks unit seems to make for similar HP increases.


Plus, the Edge has only 5 levels, where the Banks unit has 6.. So if you chose level 5 for the Edge, I can go one higher and turn my knob to 6.. That's one better, right?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif (courtesy of spinal tap)


TomEdited by: duramaxtom

It took me about an hour and a half by myself. Basically, you connect the two big plugs on the driver's side of the engine, make a slit through the rubber grommet on the firewall and run those wires through under the dash. Next, I tapped into the TCM and connected those wires. Take off the instrument panel, install your switch and connect everything to the module that goes under the dash. Done deal. I let my dealership install the egt probe for the speedloader.

Why do people still insist that for racing, you need to get the Edge? ....... You won't go wrong with either.








Don’t you have to drill a hole for the selector knob, then stick the #'s plate to the dash?


Does it come with gauges or do you have to buy them separate?


How easy is it to de-install to take it in for service?


Above reasons are why I went with Edge/Attitude.


Absolutly NOTHING AGAINST Gale Banks, they have long proven they know how to make Diesels go fast. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

All this speed and such is lovely but which tows better and gets better fuel economy? On the LB7 that is....

taco,
i just installed my new edge juice w/ attitude last friday night. it took about an hour and a half, including drilling the manifold. so far it is great and VERY smooth. i am interested in towing power. i towed with it the next day and it was nothing short of impressive. i keep it on level two. in tow haul mode when the converter locks this thing is an animal!! dont have any banks experience firsthand, but the juice is a worthwhile investment. wil

will W, watch your EGT's when towing with the edge.. Mine gets pretty hot even in level 2 sometimes. On a hard long grade, I'll back it to 1 if the egt's get over 1350 to 1400.

Regarding the Banks install - yes if you put the CPU in the cab per instructions, you have to thread 2 harnesses through the firewall. I didn't drill any holes for the control, instead I removed the cigarette lighter and installed the knob there in the center console. Works great.


Peter T did say that some people have mounted the CPU under the hood inside of a watertight enclosure, but that Banks recommends the under-dash location. If you put the CPU under the hood you would only have to run the control wire inside the cab. Going this route, install/removal would be the same as Edge.


I don't run gauges, I have the speed-loader and EGT probe which provides automatic reduction in the case of high EGT's. Banks gauges plug right into the CPU and one of these days I'll order the boost/egt and install them....


I towed my travel trailer 5200 miles this summer from Michigan to Arizona and back and the truck performed great, mainly running on level 4. I have version one of the six-gun and it is definitely biased towards torque and smooth power. Going to send it in for the reflash one of these days, but not in any hurry....

It'd be a PITA if you kept it all under-hood.


That being said, Install for the 6 gun takes about 20 minutes, the first time.


I don't have the switch installed as part of the dash, it's currently on a homebrew switch mount part of my cb. I think you can see it here:


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/38A_pics_009.jpg


As you can see, on the lefthand edge of the CB mounting bracket, I have the banks control there.


Removal if the need ensues is even quicker. I can pull EVERYTHING off in less than 5 minutes. I'll race ya with your "custom Attitude Install" disassembly! LOL


Either way they both do what they say they will do, ie make your truck faster.


Hey Fred, let's see if we can get a group buy on the banks guages whenever we all have the cash. A deal's a deal if we can get it!

duramaxtom,
what type of exhaust do you have? i am still running stock. my first tow with the edge was around 6000 lbs and it was highway driving with virtually no hills. egts never got over 1100, although i didnt really flog it too hard. i will be towing my enclosed in a couple of weeks(around 8500 loaded) so i will definitely keep an eye on things. thanks for the heads up, wil.

To anybody who has version 1 of that box we're not allowed to name here :), and is planning a version 2 reflash, we'd greatly appreciate it if you could get before and after dyno charts. There is some puzzlement about the lack of dramatic numbers of the race version, despite many sotp reports of vast improvement. Charts should show exactly what has changed, and where in the rpm band.

I'm in on the group buy for the gauges. I'd like to get the pillar mount for the egt and turbo gauges. In fact, I was thinking about buying these within the next three weeks. Let me know when you guys want to do this.

This needs to be moved to the power and performance forum. Let's keep it consistent if you are going to be moving sh$t around.

Hey Buckshotjr I live in Athens GA and I have the edge and other goodies. Email me at dshoe712@hotmail.com.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifBUCKSHOTjr


It is very hard getting an unbiased opinion since people tend to lean toward the product they are running. People that have them seem to like them. So I guess it all comes down to what you want. From reading, I don't think you can go wrong with either. ---but that is just my opinion.

Needs to move to power and performance.

Dude, you sound like a broken record.

This has nothing to do with either Banks or Edge, but if any of you diesel owners are considering buying the Chevrolet SSR pickup, don't. Wait until the 2005 model. It finally gets the power it deserves with the Vette's 6.0L LS2 motor rated at 390hp.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

This has nothing to do with either Banks or Edge, but if any of you diesel owners are considering buying the Chevrolet SSR pickup, don't. Wait until the 2005 model. It finally gets the power it deserves with the Vette's 6.0L LS2 motor rated at 390hp.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Please tell me you are not joking......I'm gettin excitedhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gifEdited by: dmaxfan

Edited by: rickles04

watch out its childish to post in bigger than normal letting and illegal and will get you kicked off sayith god owner of this site


Is that better?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

No joke. Once the general public gets wind of this, the 2004's will be harder than hell to sell off the lot, lacking 90hp. Can you say "discount"?