i was talking to the dealer this morning about ordering the new body style 3500 cc 4x4 he said if i ordered it before the end of january it would come with the lbz pre emission i said that doesnt sound write . not with what i have been going threw with my tt fleets here @ work, has anyone else heard this??? if that was the case it would be great.

That doesn't sound right. Then again, who knows what GM wiil do.

i was talking to the dealer this morning about ordering the new body style 3500 cc 4x4 he said if i ordered it before the end of january it would come with the lbz pre emission i said that doesnt sound write . not with what i have been going threw with my tt fleets here @ work, has anyone else heard this??? if that was the case it would be great.


He's confused or lying to you.

LBZ's will continue to be built into early '07 but only in the "classics".

"old truck/old engine" "new truck/new engine"

Direct from GM website:

You said any diesel built after 1/07 will need new diesel ultra low sulfur fuel, but there are some Classics that will be built after 1/07 - which fuel will it need?
The old truck (the Sierra Classic) will in fact have the old emission system and use the old low sulfur diesel fuel. There is a short window where some Classics will be built after 1/07 but the government is allowing the old emissions to be installed on these vehicles – remember old truck, old emissions and new truck, new emissions.

he might be confused but there are some strange things going on here with the emission trucks i was told by our tt fleet supplier that they were just granted another extension till february so maybe gm is follwing the same line. either way i did question the dealer and asked him to look into this a little deeper because it didnt sound correct, i will know this afternoon along with the price of the new truck as well.

Nextlevel,
If something has just changed please let us know. I'd order a new 900 HD with LBZ in a heartbeat if it were possible.

I guess it's possible the truck manufacturers could have got a short term extension from the EPA if there were technical or logistic issues. I believe I did read that manufacturers could use up the existing supply of parts even if some of the build spills into '07. (however I thought they'd only do it in the classics)

I emailed GM. Here's what they said:

"Dave, the LBZ is not available in the new GMT900 pickup. The only offering for a diesel engine is the LMM which meets the new federal emission standard.

This could be true is we were talking about a G-Van. You would still have a small window of opportunity to order the old style LBZ as long as the vehicle was built prior to the last week of production on 1/26/2007."

He's confused or lying to you.
If a salesman's lips are moving, he's lying! :lol:

Later . . . . . .
6 Shooter

Give salesmen the benefit of doubt. Sometimes they aren't intentionaly misleading you, they're just stupid.

If a salesman's lips are moving, he's lying! :lol:

Later . . . . . .
6 Shooter

Give salesmen the benefit of doubt. Sometimes they aren't intentionaly misleading you, they're just stupid.

:exactly: on Both Counts!!

i was talking to the dealer this morning about ordering the new body style 3500 cc 4x4 he said if i ordered it before the end of january it would come with the lbz pre emission i said that doesnt sound write . not with what i have been going threw with my tt fleets here @ work, has anyone else heard this??? if that was the case it would be great.I think that salesman was misinformed.:eyecrazy:

I doubt very much that GM would install the LBZ in the 900 trucks. The design changes required to accomodate the old powertrain in the new trucks along with the logistical changes would create a nightmare at the plants. :Pshyco:

It would be nice, but I wouldn't bank on it.:(

lbz and llm are the same eng just diff emissions right?

I have never met a salesman that knew as much about cars or trucks as anyone who is a automotive enthusiast.

Any one who comes on this website regularly will know more that any doopy saleman.....hahahaha.:eek:

gentlemen i was just @ this deal and as stated from several members the sales dept head there head in there a$$ the only prices that they had were for the 1500 nothing else, they had an option sheet for the 2500 and 3500 but no prices. hope this puts it to rest.

I was talking to one of the guys at the local dealer and he said gm will be building the new engine coming Jan 1, but it will be in the old body style to begin with. They plan on running the 800 with the LMM until mid February, continuing to call it the classic.

gm has stopped orders on the "classic" style pickups and is only making the special orders for the customers. they all will have the lbz. all gmt 900 p/u will have the lmm only. new truck new motor. old truck old motor no exceptions.