I have a 2003 F350 diesel with 40' gooseneck flatbed. I was curious if it could handle pulling about 25,000#'s for 500 miles?

How are your brakes on the trailer. What is the road like? UPhill pulls, steap down grades, Interstate, Highway or a 2 lane death trap? 25k does that include the trailer? SRW or a Dually?


If it were me, good brakes, DRW, good trailer and tires, i'd do it, Whats your option, make 2 trips???


I have a 35' bumper pull enclosed trailer, it weighs in @ 14,500 lbs.


I have a 30' GN i pull a backhoe around utah with, about 18-19k no problems. Just do not pull it like 2 snowmobiles....

Personally I would not try it. If anything goes wrong the truck will be a cork on a string not to mention is the is a electrical failure with brakes that you would never stop. Many years ago I used to haul grain trailers weighting up to 22,000 lbs but distances were under 15 miles and speeds were 35 mph and under. It was not that I could not faster (power was not a issue) but the lack of real control you have over that much weight with a 6000lb tow vehical and the low speeds gave me a bigger margin. I know people pull rediculous weights with pick ups but I have no desire to be anywhere never them while they are doing it as it is better to error to the conservative side than not to. I tend to drawn the line at between 2x and 3x time truck weight for control issues more than power issues. My 2 cents anyway.

I have DRW crew cab, the loads are around utaf,nev,cal,arz. Sounds like 25k is a bit much for a pick up. Under 20,000 sounds better. Thanks.

25k is way too much, truck gross is only 10k trailer should only be 24k. Total gross 34k,8 over dot remember gross truck/trailer together. 25k weight not safe on trailer.

Legally, NO!

If, God forbid, you get into an accident, youde be up $hit crick w/o a paddle.

Just remember its not the goin' part its the stopin' part. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Legally, NO!

If, God forbid, you get into an accident, youde be up $hit crick w/o a paddle.



Yep, they would clean your clock and the Insurance company would probaly cancel you too even if it was not your fault.

Sage advice folks. 25K is more weight than a 1 ton chassis/brakes/tranny, etc., etc., etc., was ever designed to handle. Looks like a rent-a-truck run is in your future smcrst. I'm new to this site and I am really enjoying reading the different posts. I didn't realize my 3500 Chevy D/A was considered a "light" duty truck until recently. Big enough for my needs though. I tow heavy (17k lb toy hauler) for a one ton, but the D/A combination snatches it right up and down the road we go. I look forward to future discussions.

There are plenty of 1 ton duallys hauling that much out there. You need the lic, the med card, and the ins as well as regesterd wieght to cover you.
I would not do it but it is done and will keep being done by others.

Yes and they are all playing with fire too. It is a dangerous condition and is more a hormone thing that a reality check. That is CDL weights and you need a bigger truck too. If you did the regularly, a used OBS 3500 HD would make a much better minimum tractor and it has a much stronger frame and axles front a rear, weighs more too and 25k would be more reasonable with it. Ther is a company up here that does contract directional underground boring for time warner and they got busted big time with a very hefty fine for running CDL wieghts without CDL licenses. Since than they have down sized trucks and loads to stay under 26k GCVW

Anytime I see discussions about towing heavy I have flashbacks to a 2 door Ford Explorer Sport I saw towing a 28ft travel trailer with the bumper barely off the ground, fully loaded with wife and 2 kids, roof rack loaded, and doing about 70 mph. I've always tried to stay well within my tow limits but when I push it I adjust my driving accordingly. Even then I have found myself in situations where someone cuts in front of me and hits their brakes to make a turn. Couple of times I must have had the Good Lord's foot on that brake pedal with me since I have no idea how I stopped in time. Yeah I could pull 25k with my truck, no problem. Now stopping it in an emergency situation or being able to maintain control through emergent/evasive maneuvers I likely wouldn't be so lucky. I err on the side of safety, for myself, the sweetie and 3 dogs as well as those around me. I have towed heavy for the past 15 years and fairly comfortable in the saddle. However, if I wasn't absolutely certain a person has sound towing skills I would think twice before advising or implying they can safely pull over GCWR in any vehicle. Just my .02 cents worth. Out here!

Snowman would have a real problem with a 3 digit OTR trackor/trailer at 80,000 lbs. Oh well, he still likes the ontime deliveries.





Idahofox

if u wanna pull it quit strokin and get a chevy lol

The Ford F-350 is rated to haul up tp 32,000 gvwc. At least that is what the engine is rated for. Yes there are a lot of people hauling more than that. The truck can easily handle it as long as the trailer is designed to carry the weight with the proper axle/brake ratio. You best bet would be to call the local DOT office or stop by a weigh station and talk to the officers.


With the proper permits you can LEGALLY haul this load with a 350. Again I Will STRESS the trailer needs to be rated for that amount of weight and you should have an excellent trailer brake system in place.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

I say just do it... don’t worry about the truck or trailer ever being a runaway.. don't worry that you cant stop the load while your barreling right into oncoming traffic with a family with kids in the car.... don’t think about those bigger trucks that are used because of a bigger load... keep up with the little engine that could approach....





Snowman... usually overweights fines for a cdl truck around here run $1 per pound overweight... not sure what is would cost for non cdl vehicle being overweight...


What is a OBS 3500??


Pete

The CDL Issue:


You will have to have a CDL if your trailer is over 10k GVW anyway. If its not, your going to break the trailer before you even get it loaded.

Personally I'd do it aslong as I wasn't near any major roadways. And if I knew and trusted my trailer brakes.

It is a nickle for every pound you areover weight here in NC

The 2003 Ford F350 DRW 6.0 TD (requires Class II Trailering Package) is rated for a maximum trailer weight of 12,700 Lbs. according to the Trailer Life towing directory for 2003 model hear. See: http://www.trailerlife.com/downloads/03towingguide.pdf

The 2003 Ford Towing Guide states "Maximum Trailer Weight (in pounds) for properly equiped Ford Vehicles (with NO cargo) is 14,200 Lbs for F250/350 Super-Duty Pickups and 21,500 for F350/450/550 Super-Duty Chassis Cab. See:
https://www.fleet.ford.com/products/rv_trailer_towing/2003/2003_All.pdf

Refer to the Ford web site to calculate the maximum safe limits for your vehicle. No matter how you add it up.....NO class 3 Light Duty Pick-up trucks are equiped (read: brakes, wheel bearings, pinion gears, etc) to tow a 25,000 Lbs. ANYTHING.

My advise is, if it is a one time thing, call United Rental and rent a truck/trailer to do the job right, but you had better have your Class A CDL in hand before you belly up to sign the forms, because there is no way any insurance company is going to cover it.

Of course, any advise or opinions are welcome, it certainly has been an education process. But only advise backed by research and actual facts are worth listening to. I certainly would not chance it if I were you, because I cannot afford to cover the expenses for equipment or human failures that the insurance won't cover, and I certainly would not want the death of some innocent person that got cought in the wrong place at the wrong time, even if I could afford it anyways.

Good luck.