I don't know you well enough so don't take this the wrong way. I test drove all 3 diesels before I bought mine-needless to say what I ended up with. Didn't Ford buy cummins? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifA guy I worked with had a new cummins (a lemon) and I let him drive my lb7 and he fell in love. I am not saying that mine is better than yours, I am just drawing a comparison your old truck(a lemon) and your new truck. I like the old cummins better than the new ones as a matter of fact. Louder but feel more powerful.


To make a long story short, it is all in what people like.


P.S. GREAT article on how to install the egr probe and turbo probe. I am mechanically DE-CLINED.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif So all the advise I can get is helpful.


P.P.S Don't let people tick you off too much about that mine is better than yours crap.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif Everyone just likes pickin' on you.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifEdited by: dmaxfan

Yea buddy!! Very well put. Every manufacturer has lemons. Some more than others

********** If you need to know,contact me Via PM******Edited by: Mackin

I am glad, because he was really looking like a hypocrite at timeshttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif None the less, I still wish him well!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif Well the thing is, I don't believe cummins owners should talk about psd since ford bought cummins- or is that just a rumor? And I don't mean only Hoot. I read a post somewhere where cummins owners were bashing the psd and that is somewhat hypocriticle if the rumor is true. I would have bought an early model cummins but I have never owned a dodge. And the main reason I went with chevy is because their parts are cheapest, then ford, then dodge. The reason why is they make their parts interchangable. Example: a part from a '86 tranny will work on a '99 tranny. I don't believe there is anything cheap on the duramax or the allison though! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif So it has to be dependability in my case. Edited by: dmaxfan

Just in case you're not joking . . .no, Ford didn't buy Cummins . . .ever. Ford once owned a small minority interest in Cummins and that was years ago. At this time Ford either owns no Cummins stock (most likely) or too little to require SEC disclosure.


This hoax used to be mentioned and discredited on the Cummins web site, but I couldn't find it just now.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif oic. Then forget I mentioned it and thanks for clearing the air for me. I am new at this diesel stuff, and have learned long ago that when something is said, not to always take it to heart. That is why I asked the question, and the reason I posted this is because a different post had hoot and alot of other dodge owners arguing to dmax owners and vice versa.











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Yeah hoot is gone.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


I will miss his postings about tech stuff.

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Gonna Miss Ya Hoot Good Luck


Genohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Didn't Ford buy cummins? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


Thats what I always thought? I heard that is why Dodge can not have real quad cab diesel. Because that is part of the arrangement?


Who knows?

I don't know you well enough so don't take this the wrong way. I test drove all 3 diesels before I bought mine-needless to say what I ended up with. Didn't Ford buy cummins? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifA guy I worked with had a new cummins (a lemon) and I let him drive my lb7 and he fell in love. I am not saying that mine is better than yours, I am just drawing a comparison your old truck(a lemon) and your new truck. I like the old cummins better than the new ones as a matter of fact. Louder but feel more powerful.


To make a long story short, it is all in what people like.


P.S. GREAT article on how to install the egr probe and turbo probe. I am mechanically DE-CLINED.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif So all the advise I can get is helpful.


P.P.S Don't let people tick you off too much about that mine is better than yours crap.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif Everyone just likes pickin' on you.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





You want to see lemons,all you have to do is look in the RETURNED LOT at Flints truck and bus group,the lot is full of lemons that have been returned,I see it everyday,and I am sure Dodge has its lemons also and we all know Ford has quite a few themselves,and it is whatever fits your bill,if you like Chevy buy it,I use to buy nothing but Fords,now I am all Dodge and dont plan on changing.


AND FORD DOES NOT OWN CUMMINSEdited by: DGFoster

Detriot Diesel is the maker of Allison Transmission right?

No, allison is owned by GM. Detroit Diesel is a division of DaimlerChrysler.

No, allison is owned by GM. Detroit Diesel is a division of DaimlerChrysler.





Isn't that Ironic. Most if not all Allison dealers have a association with Detroit Diesel,well they do around here.


I can't get a Allison part unless I go to a Detroit Diesel ,Allison dealer.





Mac

Ya know it is truly unfortunate.Known him for well over five years on and off the forums as of late.*


Without going into any great detail,he came here with a lot of baggage from other forums,unknown to a lot of you New comers. I myself helped him as the staff to ween through the people that came here just to disrupt our start and his placement as Staff.


This baggage had a lot to do with "warring" over truck brands as he has been Pro GM and Anti for the best part any other brand. To him it was "all in good fun " and he laughed about it,so he said.


Well he jumped ship and bought a Dodge and all the baggage is coming back for the haunt once again and now it isn't fun anymore all of a sudden.


My assumption as he wanted us once again to clean up the "trash" I guess once again.


Well I'm tired of taking out the garbage for someone who makes a mess on his own countinually.I know it is tough for some of you to see ,as you know nothing but what you have seen here,written on these pages,*perhaps.It only tells a very small portion of the story.


Good luck to him and his endeavors.


Wow, what a good laugh this ishttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Glad you enjoyed! There is a lot more where that came from.





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

When did Chrysler buy Detroit Diesel, They have always been G.M. for as long as I can remember. Seen one of the new 4 strokes the other day and it said Detroit Diesel by General Moters on the valve cover.


Genohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Here is a little history


"


By October 1993, the Company completed a successful initial public offering of common stock to become a publicly traded company listed on the New York Stock Exchange under the stock symbol "DDC".



In October, 2000, DaimlerChrysler AG completed a “Tender Offer” for all of the outstanding shares of DDC, including the 48.6% ownership interest of Penske Corporation. Following the acquisition, DaimlerChrysler combined various engine and other powertrain component activities (including DDC, MTU-Friedrichshafen and Mercedes-Benz industrial engines) in the Commercial Vehicle Division under a new business unit named DaimlerChrysler Powersystems, an organization with over 34,000 employees and combined revenues of approximately $7 billion.



Detroit Diesel Corporation, headquartered in Detroit, Michigan, is engaged in the design, manufacture, sale and service of heavy-duty diesel and alternative fuel engines, automotive diesel engines and engine-related products. The company offers a complete line of engines from 22 to 10,000 horsepower for the on-highway, off-road and automotive markets and is a QS-9000 certified company. Detroit Diesel services these markets directly and through a worldwide network of more than 2,700 authorized distributor and dealer locations. Detroit Diesel is a subsidiary of DaimlerChrysler AG, the world’s leading manufacturer of heavy-duty diesel truck engines.


And you can find the listing here.


http://www.daimlerchrysler.com/dccom/0,,0-5-7163-1-73271-1-0-0-0-0-0-36-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html


And here is the Detroit Diesel web site.


http://www.detroitdiesel.com/


So the Answer to you question would be October 2000


I hope this helps!

who would of ever thought GM would of ever sold Detroit Diesel. As long as they don't sell GMC. Thanks HD


Genohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gifEdited by: BROKER

Found it:


From the FAQ's in the Dodge Ram section of the Cummins website:


"Does Ford own Cummins?
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No, Ford does not own any part of Cummins Inc."


Here's the link http://www.cummins.com/na/pages/en/products/dodgeram/faq/answers.cfm?uuid=000C518F-094B-1E31-850880C4A8F00000


</DIV>

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Before I'm called a hypocrite I've been petitioned for change!

I apologize for disrupting this form previously and will do my best to moderate only, appropriately.
I ask if you have only come here to snipe please don't post.Edited by: Mackin

Thanks Mac..

To all....

I don't mind being busted on for owning a Dodge. Or for that matter... being proud of being a Dodge ownerhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif

I did a lot of bashing of Dodge and Ford in the past. I will still bash Dodge, Ford AND GM if need be. In fun and seriously. But my history.. as MAC stated.. tends to hang with me as "baggage" and sometimes it's real hard to shake off. Tough lesson.

I do get mad when certain individuals make it their life's work to badger me, here, non stop, and lie about me on other forums. More later.

BTW... truck is running great... death wobble is in check and has been since the first and only occurrance. I'm going to be getting a link end track bar to eliminate it in all conditions. After adding to the caster and letting some air out of the tires she's almost 100% stable at all speeds. The leveling kit played with the alignment and I lost a lot of caster.

Someone has been lying about me on another site..

Here is the post....

I read some more on this whole subject and there was about 15 PM's recieved. It seems he bought a DUDD,HMMMMM, Dodge and cant deal with the previous baggage.Plus I was told it is running like crap.He will not be much more forth comming ,<font color="red"> a little BIRDIE told me</font> ,that the truck is running so bad he has commited to staying off the Interstate for now.He will not attempt running RT95 until the DW is cured.

It's all BS. Made up to piss me off I guess. The little BIRDIE I presume is me.... hoot. I never said or communicated anything of the sort. Just got back from a weekend of surf fishing 100 miles away, all highway... full speeds and no worries.

Now will the person that wrote this please stand up. From the same person I recieved one question PM as to why I was no longer around and ONE apologetic PM afterwords.

Am I a hypocrite.....? ABSAEFFENLOOTLY

I'm the only hypocrite in existance. Make an example of me.... tar.... feathers, but don't lie about me.

Back to trucks
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Hmmmmmmmmm, you mean he made something up? I can't hardly believe that. Not with him having those 500,000 mile Dmax's and allhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Hoot, I am glad you got your truck in check. I have not had any cases yet on a stock truck. I did have one with 315's and the same kind of leveling set-up you have in here for it the other day though. I highly recomended he put it back to stock, but I told him it was his truck and to do what he wants. We did some allignment work on it but I'm not sure what, I need to talk to the tech who did the work.

It wasn't me, no really, it wasn't!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif Hoot knows that I say it on the forums as well as to his face. I like hoot as a friend (So don't read anything in to thishttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif ) Hoot and I hung out for the day out at Muncie this year, and we took jabs at each other pretty much all day. Well when we weren't picking on PPE about their tie-rod replacements.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


I think Hoot (Mike) does get carried away most of the time, but some of it is in fun. The rest is just mean!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif I just finished replying to a PM I received from Hoot, he is Baaaaacck!


With that said, I think hoot does need to relax a little, because some of this has gone to his head, with the problems he is having with the Dodge and all.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Throw Up.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Throw Up.gif

Problems??? Relax???? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Hoot,


I don't think your a hypocrite-your just eating crow!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


I might be too before it is said and done!

You develop a taste for it.

HE'ssssssssssssssssssssssssss Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack. Come on Hoot spout of sumpin bout me or Nut so we -----I can start a fight.


Genohttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Hoot,I for one am glad your back,I have used your info for my own truck and have found it very knowledgable and appeciate all the work you have done.


I have gotten an email from someone who says I should not listen to your opinion and that it will get me nowhere,well he is wrong and I value all you have done on this site and other sites as well.


Thanks for all your help.

Hoot,I for one am glad your back,I have used your info for my own truck and have found it very knowledgable and appeciate all the work you have done.


I have gotten an email from someone who says I should not listen to your opinion and that it will get me nowhere,well he is wrong and I value all you have done on this site and other sites as well.


Thanks for all your help.

Opinions are just that... opinions. Nobody needs to be told what to do with them. For someone to email you telling you that, I have to wonder. It's not like we're jumping up and down saying this is the best and don't buy anything but.


Thank you for your kind words.

geno.. I'm regrouping. I'll get back to you on that one

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifHey Michael; if you haven't discarded the e-mail, how bout sending a copy my way. I would be interested in it for reading purposes only.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

hdmax.... you mean DGFoster's email.... I'd like to read that one myself.

It's probably from hdmax http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Edited by: hoot

hoot,
it great that your back. people tend to forget the positive things you have brought to this forum. i just installed my new juice/attitude last night and followed your how to steps and all went flawless!!!

The email is long gone,it was quite a while ago when I got this email,I was new here,it had a link to another GM site where Hoot posted,I didn't pay much attention to it and only brought it up here because it seems he is getting a bad rap,all I know is his info has helped me and he has always given me a straight answer when I have asked for his advise,and to me he has owned both and to me that makes him knowledgable about Chevy/Dodge.It don't matter to me what you all own,we are all diesel heads and if I had my way I would own one of each just for the hell of ithttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

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Hey Hoot, where is your signature? I am looking for your pyro install you did on your D-Max. Unless someone else has the same setup. Need a picture of the exhaust manifold drill location. Anyone???





Never mind. It is amazing what you can find when you look hard enough. Found it in the Do it yourself section.Edited by: WOJO 1

Hey Hoot, where is your signature? I am looking for your pyro install you did on your D-Max. Unless someone else has the same setup. Need a picture of the exhaust manifold drill location. Anyone???








I had mine installed. They put it on the driver side and did not have to take my plastic off. I would post a pic but don't have a camera. If you look at your tire's highest point, find the shock mount and look behind it, you can see the manifold. That is where they installed mine, but everyone is different.

Thanks dmaxfan I will look at that location as well. I am probably going to move mine from post-turbo to pre-turbo and do not want to mess it up if you know what I mean.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif








How is your son "Tator Tot" doing these days?Edited by: WOJO 1

How is your son "Tator Tot" doing these days?





He is thinking of joining the California Highway Patrolhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif