: rear air bags
moss022 07-28-2004, 10:34 PM what kind of air bags are you running and how much were they??? how much air do you run with them and or how much air do you put in them when you pull a sled??? and last and not least, when you get the on board air, will it pump up tires at a decent rate or is it pretty slow???
baimpala 07-29-2004, 08:21 AM I got mine from Summit Racing, seems like they had the best price and I've always had good luck with them. Seems like a lot of guys like Jeg's around here, but my experience has been the opposite of what most have found. I paid $215.64 delivered, and since Summit is close, I got it in 2 days.
I am in the process of putting them on. Last night, I mounted the air bags, today I'll plumb the air hose. They were a very easy install, took about 1 hour total to do the bags, I imagine it will take about an hour to do the air.
I am not getting the compressor since I have one for my air horns, with a charging hose connection. I won't play with the bags too much, so for me this was the best fit. I haven't tried using the compressor for the tires, but it will fill the small tank (2 gallons maybe?, can't remember) from 100 to 145 in well under a minute.
You might consider mounting a small tank somewhere under the truck and charge it at home if you have a compressor or get a 100% duty cycle compressor. The compressor that came with my horns is something like a 28% duty cycle, so I don't want to overuse it. . .
Hope it helps,
Dennis
MarksDuramax2004 07-30-2004, 12:22 PM On my old truck i got them from Summit Racing too think i payed 250.00. i ran about 90-95 lbs in it. Now there just stin in the grage. dont need them with new truck.
baimpala 07-30-2004, 12:32 PM Mark,
I finished my install yesterday, and maybe it is just my imagination, but this things rides like a DREAM now with them on. You may want to consider putting them on the new beast as well.
The air line install was VERY easy. Much easier than I though, I think it only took me about a half an hour to do it. I just ran the driver side bag over to the passenger side wheel well and mounted them to the front of the rear wheel well. That way I can easily use the tank and fitting that are already on that side from when I did the air horn install.
Driving around with just 7.5 pounds in the truck it raised the back 5/8" on both sides, so I cranked the front torsion bars up a little to raise the whole truck. I put 20.0 pounds in them last night, and I'll see if they held without leaking later today.
baimpala
I see you have our exhaust system on your truck. Is this a dual or single exhaust system? I am looking to add some bags on the dually, I am currently running the dual exhaust system and would like to know if the bags you have would fit my application.
Thanks
MBH
baimpala 07-30-2004, 04:33 PM Martin,
It is the single 4" 409. I have the Air Lift Super Duty 57275 and there is plenty of clearance around the air bags with the new exhaust. I imagine if the routing is similar around the jounce strike plate on the Cool Duals, you won't have any problems.
The kit I have says to keep the air line at least 6" from any heat source, and that wasn't a problem at all. I just routed the line straight up to and over the frame, and then used an existing hole in the passenger side rear wheel well (enlarged to 5/16") and drilled another one near it for the air nipples. I don't plan on changing the pressure too much so this setup is perfect for me.
The kit also included a heat shield you are supposed to put on the exhaust, but mine was well over 6" away, and there is also a bracket for the emergency brake cable on the drivers side, which I left off. I don't believe the 3500 series uses the brake cable bracket so you won't have to worry about it.
If you go to this post:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12557&TPN=1
You can see a picture of where I put the air nipples (and some shots of where I mounted the air horns).
Dennis
Crashdummy 07-31-2004, 12:23 PM I sent photos of my Air Lift air bag installation to Mark Craig with the question, will the MBRP cool duals fit on this truck ? his engineers said that the drivers side (with the shock going to the rear) would not fit out of the box. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif Pass side was OK.
I also am running the Ar Lift 57275, and love them. as much as I wanted the cool duals, the Air Lifts stay....Edited by: Crashdummy
MarksDuramax2004 07-31-2004, 01:56 PM baimpala
When i had my old truck with the air bag's i ran the air line to the driver side put them in where you open the door to put gas in. It worked out great. I have seen some guys run them out the back of the bed looked like $hit. what do you haul that you need air bags?
moss022 07-31-2004, 04:26 PM i dont need to to haul anything, i need them for pulling. i was also wondering how the on board air worked out to, so that i can pump my tires back up when i get done pulling.
Ray403Dmax 07-31-2004, 04:46 PM Is it the removal of the overload leaf springs that softens the unloaded ride or the addition of the air bag?
akdiesel 08-02-2004, 02:38 AM I have my air bags set up with a dual air gaube inside with a Viair 450 compressor and a 2 1/2 tank. The set up works great and I have had it in for about 1 year now. I used stainless lines except for the areas that are prone to flex. I also routed two lines with quick connects on either side that are flush with one of the four holes on my Go Rhino step bars (the kind that have the step incorperated in them.
If you really want some are you could alwarys spring for one of thesehttp://www.vmac.ca/underhood/vr70.htm. Then you could also route a line to your turbo for some real power.
WYO_DMAX 08-02-2004, 06:03 PM I heard some people had trouble mounting air bags with a B&W Turnover Ball. Anyone know anything about this?
baimpala 08-02-2004, 10:17 PM Mark,
I do haul a 32' Autowagon that when loaded with everything is around 21,000 lbs. Not super heavy, but it does load the bed down. The real reason I got them though is because I plan on getting a set of H2 takeoff rims and putting 285/70-17s on them. I figured that was the easiest way to get an inch or so lift in the back.
When I tow, I will wind up taking off the H2 rims and tires and put the stock ones back on.
I really liked the idea of putting the lines in the fuel door, but my compressor is on the passenger side, so this worked better for me.
Dennis
baimpala 08-02-2004, 10:19 PM Here's some pics of where the connectors are and the compressor to help understand why I did it that way.
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12557&PN=1&TPN=1
Ray403Dmax,
I noticed a substantially smoother ride by simply installing the air bags. I live in Newport, RI, where the roads are less than smooth, and I couldn't believe how much better the ride was. I am running stock shocks and it felt like a completely different truck. Masterp2 recommends flipping the overload springs. I waited on doing that one until I saw how it rode with the air bags. I am still undecided on the overload springs. Just took a short trip this weekend with the bags set at about 20 psi and if felt great. I may lower them back down to about 7 psi as I think the ride is a little bit better there until I get the new wheels and tires.
DennisEdited by: baimpala
Ray403Dmax 08-03-2004, 05:39 PM Thanks Dennis.
ChevyPackin'Heat 08-05-2004, 01:07 PM I have the Ride-Rite by Firestone. No compressor. Keep them at about 10 lbs empty and 20 lbs with the 5er on the back.
these bags are about $245 and it took a couple hours to install. No drilling. Ran the air up to the 5er hitch bolts, not to the back bumper. I would not have the truck without these bags. this is the third truck I have installed the Ride-Rite bags on no problems thus far. I think the ride, even empty, is improved with the bags.
Excellent fit with the Banks exhaust.
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