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: Design Engineering (Thermal Tuning)


Jon@DEI
07-27-2004, 04:24 PM
Hello, We at DEI are please to be a part of your community. I would like to invite you all to visit our web page @ www.designengineering.com (http://www.designengineering.com). We offer many products that will help control that unwanted underhood heat resulting in more power and component protection. We also offer our patented CryO2 systems that uses Co2 to cool your air intake, fuel and intercooler temperatures. I look forward to working with you. I am availiable anytime for question through private messenger or @ 1-800-264-9472.


P.S. We need some truck pictures uploaded to our photo gallery!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif Edited by: Jon@DEI

duradiesel
07-29-2004, 08:57 PM
What is Cry02? Is it like propane?

Jon@DEI
07-30-2004, 09:07 AM
What is Cry02? Is it like propane?


CryO2 is a revolutionary sytem that harnesses the cooling power of CO2. The Co2 is never ingested into your motor it is just used to cool the components and then vent onto the intercooler or into the atmosphere. Our CryO2 system is available with three different components that can be used individually or all together off the same line of Co2. The CryO2 is designed to cool off your airflow temps, fuel temps, and intercooler temperatures. Please visit our webpage for more information at www.designengineering.com (http://www.designengineering.com).


Many diesel customers of our are having success running our air intake segments and our intercooler sprayers.

Bronco
07-30-2004, 10:12 AM
Hello Jon,


Does your intercooler spray bar leak on the track? Does this ever cause any DQ? Not sure how much liquid leaks out and makes it to the ground?

Jon@DEI
07-30-2004, 12:11 PM
Hello Jon,


Does your intercooler spray bar leak on the track? Does this ever cause any DQ? Not sure how much liquid leaks out and makes it to the ground?





I have personally run a sprayer on a front mount vehicle and when the liquid Co2 is dispursed onto the intercooler it has a dry ice effect and does not cause any dripping or leaking issues. Many drag racers utilize this system and even on a humid day with a lot of condensation we have not experienced any problems with moisture. If it is not used properly or mixed with a water sprayer there could be some issues. I personally have never heard of any DQ's or any reasons for them.Edited by: Jon@DEI

Diesel Tech
07-30-2004, 12:18 PM
Useing CO2 to cool down an intercooler has been around for years. To tell you the truth longer than I can remember. The drawback is that CO2 does not burn in the combustion chamber, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Unhappy.gif so you need to be careful to keep the air intake (air filter) away from the area that the CO2 is being used on. Dry ice on the intercooler does the same thing. Many people have used NOS to do the same thing, the big advantage to NOS is it does burn in the combustion chamber. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Jon@DEI
07-30-2004, 01:07 PM
Useing CO2 to cool down an intercooler has been around for years. To tell you the truth longer than I can remember. The drawback is that CO2 does not burn in the combustion chamber, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Unhappy.gif so you need to be careful to keep the air intake (air filter) away from the area that the CO2 is being used on. Dry ice on the intercooler does the same thing. Many people have used NOS to do the same thing, the big advantage to NOS is it does burn in the combustion chamber. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


That is true, but set up properly your motor will not ingest the C02 and will save you some money to the fact that Co2 is around .$50 to $1.00 a pound instead of $5.00+ a pound for Nitrous.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif Check our our site for more details. Again, we at DEI are excited to be a part of the diesel community.

Diesel Tech
07-30-2004, 03:17 PM
Jon


You are correct in that keeping things cool does help. I am not in the business of selling NOS or CO2, I am just pointing out what you and I already know, and to inform the members of both the good and the bad. Sorry if you feel it was directed at you or your product as that was not what I was trying to do.

dslhead
07-30-2004, 03:19 PM
Hi Jon, ever done a before and after dyno test using the heat wrap on a diesel engine?

Bronco
07-30-2004, 07:36 PM
The drawback is that CO2 does not burn in the combustion chamber, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Unhappy.gif so you need to be careful to keep the air intake (air filter) away from the area that the CO2 is being used on. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


That was my next line of questioning.


So how do you kep it out of the intake tract on a Dmax?

Jon@DEI
08-11-2004, 11:02 AM
dslhead: High under hood temperatures will result in powerloss! Utilizing our heat wraps will lower under hood temps up to 50%. Diesel guys really beniefit form our turbo wraps and exhaust wrap on manifolds and downpipes. Please visit our website for a complete listing of our thermal tuning products.





Bronco: The Co2 is just passing throught our aerodynamicly shaped bulb freezing it to around -80 degrees F. When your intake air flows over our bulb in will be lowered around 20%. After the Co2 reaches all the components it is simply released on to the intercooler or into the atmosphere.

snoman
08-11-2004, 12:58 PM
What is Cry02? Is it like propane?


CryO2 is a revolutionary sytem that harnesses the cooling power of CO2. The Co2 is never ingested into your motor it is just used to cool the components and then vent onto the intercooler or into the atmosphere. Our CryO2 system is available with three different components that can be used individually or all together off the same line of Co2. The CryO2 is designed to cool off your airflow temps, fuel temps, and intercooler temperatures. Please visit our webpage for more information at www.designengineering.com (http://www.designengineering.com).


Many diesel customers of our are having success running our air intake segments and our intercooler sprayers.

Oh I love this, it is bad enough the green house gases that vehicals make coming out of the tail pipe, let release even more of them to "cool" the truck instead of using more agggressive air flow through engine compartment to begin with more aggressive clutching of fan. CO2 cooling is about the stupidest idea I have ever heard to cool a truck when with more air you can do it for FREE (maybe a fraction more fuel consumed by engine)

Diesel Power
08-11-2004, 01:19 PM
I didn't think CO2 was harmful to the atmosphere. i think you are thinking of CO.. monoxide vs. dioxide..

jesshd
08-11-2004, 01:32 PM
Heat wrapping the turbo and the exhaust will cause it to prematurely rust out and fail. Don't do it. 50% heat reduction is BS.


Jess

ratlover
08-11-2004, 01:38 PM
snowman, I guess all that hot air you like to spew dosnt have any co2 in it?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

baimpala
08-11-2004, 02:04 PM
I didn't think CO2 was harmful to the atmosphere. i think you are thinking of CO.. monoxide vs. dioxide..


I think so too. CO2 is produced in the human body. Maybe we should pass a law that in 2007 all people will no longer be allowed to exhale. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


All in fun,
Dennis

Jon@DEI
08-13-2004, 11:28 AM
[/QUOTE]

Oh I love this, it is bad enough the green house gases that vehicals make coming out of the tail pipe, let release even more of them to "cool" the truck instead of using more agggressive air flow through engine compartment to begin with more aggressive clutching of fan. CO2 cooling is about the stupidest idea I have ever heard to cool a truck when with more air you can do it for FREE (maybe a fraction more fuel consumed by engine)[/QUOTE]





A couple of things:


1) Co2 is not harmful to your atmosphere (one word photosynthesis), if you are that worried about Co2 never have a fountain drink, play paintball, weld or definitly don't drink Beer!! All these processes use Co2.


2) This system will supply something that a stronger fan can not produce. Imagine your intake air flowing over a piece of dry ice which produces the same temperatures that our CryO2 intake does and also release these temperatures onto your intercooler. Everyone knows how much more power can be made with a cooler denser air charge and that is what we supply that on demand. Our system will drastically lower your intercooler temperatures along with air inlet temperatures.


I am always availiable for questions through this site or I can be contacted direct at 1-800-264-9472.

Fingers
08-13-2004, 12:55 PM
Jon,

Are you familiar with the exhaust routing on the Dmax's?

Fingers
08-13-2004, 01:10 PM
Heat wrapping the turbo and the exhaust will cause it to prematurely rust out and fail. Don't do it. 50% heat reduction is BS.


Jess

If my turbo is getting wet in the first place, I'm in deep!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

nwpadmax
08-13-2004, 07:47 PM
I think what Jess is referring to is that the exhaust turbo housing will get hotter when wrapped, and iron/steel thermally oxidize more quickly at elevated temps.

But whadda I know? Idiot metallurgist http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

nwpadmax
08-13-2004, 08:10 PM
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sdaver
08-16-2004, 02:49 PM
tough crowdhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

dmaxfan
08-16-2004, 03:55 PM
snowman, I guess all that hot air you like to spew dosnt have any co2 in it?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





Don't pay any attn to snoman. I think he just likes to disagreehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif