Some miscellaneous pictures..........


It was quite a task..........Mackin and my other bud John were there for the weekend to help http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif, and be a second and third set of eyes to make sure it all went back together correctly.


An Allison Service manual is helpful and answered some questions we had.
I also had the Transgo Book by STEVE YOUNGER available from MIKE L. here and the Transgo install instructions and of coarse SUNCOAST's installation instructions.


I would caution anyone doing this yourself, a jig on an engine stand makes life a lot easier. Also have a large bench or table to put things on and plenty of lint free rags and brake clean with a compressor to blow things dry.


Some basic tools are required like a 7mm,8mm,13mm & 15mm sockets, a large set of snap ring pliers as well a TQ wrench capable of 7 lbs and need only as high as 45 lbs. A 4x4 hub spanner wrench is nice to have for the rear cover removal as well as a couple large screwdrivers, a pick or hook.


Here are some pics........wish I took more but we were involved in re-assembling it and I got lazy in taking the pictures.





C3 snap ring.......need a large screw driver to remove it.


Notice engine stand JIG on left of photo..........


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New C3's stacked.......


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/CZZ_C3_stack.jpg





C1 "Magiver Tool".....don't ask http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif. Better than the first thing I used. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


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Front Cover off with pump........C1/C2 rotating assembly.....


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How long did it take you do it from start to finish?

Bout a 12 pack!





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

How long did it take you do it from start to finish?





EACH..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Oh man, so much for that trans holding.... Installed a crushed beer can instead of that spacer. You been trying to figure out why you have extra parts huh? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

I will get some nicer pics up tomorrow on the BURNT and Ruined original C2 and C3 clutches and I'll be letting everyone know how she goes..........or doesn't go....... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif.........


If she won't go..........well .......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif............I got a match.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Evil Smile.gif


Seriously,


It was not that bad a job, definitely a 2 or 3 person job none the less.
And I can't stress enough the amount of time that we needed to set aside for all 3 of us to be constantly checking and re-checking


......Mike L. was just a phone call away and helped me out a few times during this install. THANKS MIKE.......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


I will say a BIG , BIG THANKS http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs%20Up.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs%20Up.gif ......To smoop at SUNCOAST.......http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs%20Up.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs%20Up.gif http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs%20Up.gif


All of my clutch pack clearances fell within the recommended and required windows......C1-C4 are specially machined by Suncoast for extra capacity .........all within 2 thousandths of spec.


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Well Tony,guess you finally .......... Checked your clutches!








Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

YUP..............


They were BAD.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif, only 3 out of 5 sets........I still had strong reverse......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Those are all wall hangers.........them there clutches.


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Whats with the huggies box? Do they soak up the tranny fluid better than shop towells?


From last september i dont remember a 12 pack lasting mac all that long, specially when an allison and suncoast are involved.... how long does that translate too?

The Huggies Box.............is a story all it's own, best left untold..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


Seriously though it was just something I could throw away when I was done catching tranny fluid dripping out ....... better than the garage floor, plus Mackin said I have won't have to call the EPA or the Fire Department for a hazardous spill cleanup......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





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The huggies box if from left over diapers that were used by the passengers when they rode with him... In case they sh*t themselves.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

Tony,

Thanks for the pics. Just taking the sucker out and manhandling it back in is a job I'll bet.

I see you got your white sneakers dirty.

Don't let MAC connect the lines

I HAD IT TAKEN OUT AND.............


I AM HAVING IT PUT BACK IN........


I am not that brave............http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Takes 2 people to lift it..........By buddy John lifted the converter up and set it in like it was nothing http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wacko.gif..........


He probably could have lifted the whole tranny by himself.........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


He was in charge of the Torque Wrench http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif too.........





I will see tomorrow If I did it right..........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ouch.gif


Even though I second guessed myself at every step and checked and re-checked..........spending 1/2 hour on the P1 Sun Gear flat thrust bearing install orientation alone. http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


It said in Mac's manual that if it was not installed properly it could
cause "A Possible Catastrophic Failure".......http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif..hopefully we put it together real good.........





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How hazzardous was Mac?

Good luck, and keep the Huggies handy....... for your passengers.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifHow hazzardous was Mac?

Good luck, and keep the Huggies handy....... for your passengers.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


As always he is fine..............


He did say if it works "WE" did a good job............http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


If it doesn't work then he said "YOU" must of put it in wrong.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif





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You're only as good as the hired help.

Here are some PICS..........





My custom JIG ADAPTER for the Engine stand to PTO cover


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Custom_Built_Jig.jpg


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I built this table to work on the C1/C2 rotating assembly......lined it with shop towels and the hole is for the input shaft to drop through making a nice stable working area.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Custom_Bench.jpg





Tranny on the custom Bracket............Kent Moore makes a bracket.this took 30 minutes to cut and weld together with 8 holes drilled.


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/Allison_on_jig.jpg





C2 clutches and steels looked BAD http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/C2_friction_and_steels_burned.jpg


They are supposed to be a REDDISH color.........these sure are not http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/C2_friction_over_C2_steel.jpg





C2 clutches and steels with a nice C1 clutch ( smaller one ) as a reference for color comparison...............


http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/C2_smoked_with_C1_for_color.jpg
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What did your c5's spec to in clearance? Just curious.

They weren't checked. I would imagine that they would have been in factory spec considering that the lettering was still visable on the clutch .





Mac

What did your c5's spec to in clearance? Just curious.


It was quite a gap............was larger than I expected.........the same as you probably had seen if I was to guess........all stock though.


Filled her up with fluid..took 25 qts. total transmission dry and transfer case as well.


I will say the TC locking up feels like an extra gear in 5th......http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif





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Nice... now if I could only put one of those behind my Cummins!

Thats what I found too on the c5-s like .2".