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chevmeister
07-24-2004, 10:29 PM
i know its been discussed before, but has anyone got the ricksons on a dooley? Its down to the wire, i need tires. Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about them? I want the polished alluminum, with steel inners. Im gonna run continental HDR 245/70r19.5.

Tony
07-25-2004, 09:50 AM
I tried to order some in april but they said it would be a month or two backorder. At the time they didnt have, and/or couldnt get any pictures of the 8 lug wheels installed on a chevy dually. The pics they have on the site were with 10 lug wheels.(big difference) Dont delay if you need them soon. I dont have any personal purchase or install experience with them. Maybe im a little picky but I didnt want to get $3800 wheels without at least a pic of what they will look like on a truck?

chevmeister
07-25-2004, 11:46 AM
i have been talking to rickson for over a year, they are avaliable now. i havent seen any pics yet either but i am going to try them on at there place before i make up my mind. Who knows the pics you finally get to see might be on my truck. Heard some first hand info from someone who had a 2500 with the ricksons. Maybe if were lucky he can post a pic. from what he said the wheels are first class, the tires being stiffer is the only problem if you arent used to it. Cant blame you for not wanting to be the guneia pig in this situation 4k is big money after dropping 40k on the rig.

Lakedaisy
07-25-2004, 12:26 PM
What's wrong with the pictures on rickson's website?

Tony
07-25-2004, 03:40 PM
Nothing is wrong, well I questioned that the chevy dually had dodge written under it, they thanked me for catching it then I noticed something else about the 8 lug wheel application picture.


The pic of the 19.5 chevy/gmc dually is a 10 lug wheel. I asked for a pic of a chevy with their 8 lug wheels before placing my order, and was kind of shocked that they couldnt get me one. That was when I decided to hold off as I dont know and havent personally talked to anyone with the 8 lug dually setup.


I believe you need the original center trim for the 8 lug wheels also. A pic of the wheels on a (dodge) with huge tires they emailed me had very generic looking center trim. I think the oem chevy would look ok.


When talking to them they seem very knowlegable but it seems they should be able to let you see EXACTLY what your getting, thats all.


If anyone gets them please post pics.

Lakedaisy
07-25-2004, 04:24 PM
Yea, I talked to them a few weeks ago too. They were running about 2 weeks behind on delivery at that time. Haven't ordered yet. Can't seem to talk my self in to an extra $150 per wheel for aluminum. Plus the aluminum sticks out an additional 1 1/8" (on my 2500hd anyway). I sure do like the 4500# rating on the wheels though.


So those duallys have 10 lug wheels with OEM 8 lug covers?

White Duramax
07-26-2004, 12:05 AM
I personally think the 10 lug will look a lot better than the 8.

gardnerteam
07-26-2004, 09:40 AM
As a former Rickson owner, I will tell you the SRW wheels are extremely high quality, superbly polished, and the best after market wheel I have ever bought in 45 years of buying. Very expensive, but you get what you paid for. HOWEVER, before you buy a set and invest a lot of money in wheels and tires, I suggest you borrow a set and run on 19.5 tires on normal country roads or concrete freeways, depending of your type of driving. I was warned about 19.5 tires for my type of driving, but I didn't listen. Cost me $1,000 for my failure to listen. IMO, 19.5 tires are OK on very heavy (all the time) pickups that run on very smooth roads. Those of you who use your trucks for carrying extremely heavy campers (like a Lance 10 or 11') will like them as they do carry heavy loads with ease. Try a set for a 100 miles or so on roads you normally would drive.

Heartbeat Hauler
07-26-2004, 04:26 PM
As a former Rickson owner, I will tell you the SRW wheels are extremely high quality, superbly polished, and the best after market wheel I have ever bought in 45 years of buying. Very expensive, but you get what you paid for. HOWEVER, before you buy a set and invest a lot of money in wheels and tires, I suggest you borrow a set and run on 19.5 tires on normal country roads or concrete freeways, depending of your type of driving. I was warned about 19.5 tires for my type of driving, but I didn't listen. Cost me $1,000 for my failure to listen. IMO, 19.5 tires are OK on very heavy (all the time) pickups that run on very smooth roads. Those of you who use your trucks for carrying extremely heavy campers (like a Lance 10 or 11') will like them as they do carry heavy loads with ease. Try a set for a 100 miles or so on roads you normally would drive.





So, what was the problem? Were the tires rough riding, noisy, don't handle well, what? Come on spill the beans already.


JP

hoot
07-26-2004, 09:42 PM
Rough riding. I never owned them but read many times that the large dia. wheels ride rough. Partly because the tires are hard riding and designed for heavy trucks.

Another response of mine, dpower, that I have no personal experience with but have read about many many times.Edited by: hoot

gardnerteam
07-27-2004, 10:57 PM
The tires rode rougher than 16", but that wasn't the problem. On any road that wasn't perfectly smooth, the tires would dart from one side or another when it hit a small rut, small hole, line, raise in the concrete, or anything. On Mexican roads the tires beat the hell out of me. I normally drive 12 to 16 hours a day with ease, but after about 4 hours I was beat up. And no, no an alignment problem. They were perfectly aligned when I left and drove well on smooth paved roads. I knocked the alignment out about 6,000 miles into the trip when I hit a burro at about 60 mph, (NO DAMAGE - love those 1/2 thick steel bumpers - and NO, I had no chance to miss him - I only hit politicians on purpose). With a very heavy camper and smooth roads, the tires would be OK. They will carry weigth. Old timers (like me) tell me that it is because the sidewalls have NO flex, and the tread stays flat due to the number of plys. Basically, the tire does not give where the normal tire does flex and give and rolls over the obstacle. 19.5 is a true truck tire and not what most of us want. Cost me $1,000 to find out. The person who bought them (a TDP reader) had the perfect need for them - a 2500HD 2WD with a 11' or bigger Lance camper with a lot of weight and overhang. He's gonna love them.

john@dps
07-28-2004, 07:09 PM
The 19.5's do ride rough and track funny sometimes. I know, I have T.E.A.'s conversion. Those buying for looks will not be happy with them. However those wanting them for work or a specfic use will love them.

tbone
07-29-2004, 05:40 PM
Brentzwheels.com makes a set of 19.5 8 bolt direct bolt DOT approved wheels. I am about to order a set. The ten lug adapter wheels look great but I saw a set of adapters break this weekend at the car show.

Maverick
07-30-2004, 07:52 PM
My heaviest load was with (1)1500 XCSB, (1)2500XCSB, and a Suburban. I was just under 33,000 gross with my adapters. I had over 9,000 on the rear axle itself. My adapters never failed but you never know I guess.


http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL487/437876/504504/12090371.jpg


http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL487/437876/1012182/11763917.jpg

mgp
03-29-2005, 02:00 AM
I'm looking at the Rickson 19.5 setup for my 3500 Dually, but I am concerned about the ride.

Some say that the ride is significantly harder with these heavy truck tires, but I'm curious exactly which tire they are running. Some of the 19.5 tires out there can go all the way up to load range "H", so I can imagine how rough it can get. However, there are 19.5 tires available in load range "F".

I wasn't unhappy with the ride of my 235/85R16 BFG A/T tires that were load range "E". How much worse can load range "F" be than load range "E"?

Maybe some feedback from those running 19.5 setups and exactly which tires they are using?

crewcab03
03-29-2005, 05:46 PM
mgp give brent a call at www.brentzwheels.com he can give you some insite aobut the tire ride, handling, and could help you match up with what you are looking for.

Dave Lewis
03-29-2005, 09:37 PM
So what does one do for a larger tire on a Dually that has a decent ride yet keeps the weight rating?

Dave Lewis
03-31-2005, 12:19 PM
Also curious about which load rated tire people have been using. I wonder if the lower F (as opposed to H) would bring the ride closer to stock? Those who know please chime in.

RVC
03-31-2005, 12:43 PM
Mav

What had you done to the rear suspension to handle that type of weight? (air bags,timbrens, extra leafs)

bigdaddy650r
03-31-2005, 02:13 PM
MGP, I have a SRW with the 225's load rated F and there is not much sidewall flex at all when aired up for towing. I got the 225's because I wanted to stay as close to the stock size as possible, they are about 1 3/4" taller than the stockers and when my speedo reads 60mph I am actually going 65mph.
You will have a stiffer ride unloaded but lower air pressure, new shocks,and air bags have helped mine.
I run 85F/90R loaded and 65/65 unloaded.
The taller tires (245's+)will have more sidewall flex but never as much as the lame stockers.I have 10,000 miles towing and 5,000 miles commuting ,70 per day. During the Kansas winter, I put the stock tires back on.
With the duals on the back, you might have a rough riding rear end???
Have you checked into lord's Velvet ride shackles?
http://www.lord.com/Default.aspx?tabid=872
It all depends on what you do with the truck? commute, haul, or both?
GOOD LUCK.

Frank_EP
03-31-2005, 03:52 PM
Mav

What had you done to the rear suspension to handle that type of weight? (air bags,timbrens, extra leafs)
I have Tom's old Ricksons and am running his old Toyo tires. To date I have
about 4000 miles with the camper on the back -- rolling along at 6 tons.
The tires are load range H IIRC. Very heavy rating.

Even with the camper on the tires do "hunt" for cracks in the road. I am
running air bags, Rancho shocks and aftermarket anti-roll bar.

Overall I am pleased with the tire/wheel combo. Unlike virtually everybody
else on the planet, I am less than pleased with the durability of these tires.
I find they are wearing faster than I expect. Then again I have been
known to spin those rear wheels a bit.