For those of you who are not aware:


As of Wednesday the 21st of July 04, there are NO injectors to be had, period.


Chevrolet has issued letters to all registered owners of 2001-2002 Duramax powered vehicles. The letter states that the WARRANTY PERIOD FOR THE INJECTORS ONLY is increased to 200,000 miles. The $100 charge is waived.


Watch for 2003+ next.


There is another "improved" injector design in the pipeline, BUT Bosch is having "procedural" problems manufacturing them. GM is scared to death it is another quality issue, Bosch has been silent for a while and this is causing frayed nerves internally in both companies.. The current backlog for replacement injectors stands at 260,000 injectors and climbing.


The filter issue and California fuel excuses are falling out of favor.


Current estimated "earliest" release date for the new injector is AT LEAST 6-8 weeks.


The only good news is that they are now required to replace ALL EIGHT at one time.


I am afraid that we as a company have had to resort to the services of a lawyer at this point, we simply cannot guarantee when we send a truck out that it will get there or get back.


Back to gas, cheaper and more reliable in the long run.

I guess I got the last 8 in the nation, got them on the 21st from a dealer in Houston. They put them in the truck but now after the old injectors flooded my crankcase with fuel,I have reduced oil pressure. Maybe they can sell these to you when they replace my engine or I will have to get a lawyer too.

Unfortunately I believe you probably have the last of the last "new upgraded" injectors. The injector issue is not going to go away, as much as GM, Isuzu and Bosch wish it would. Any designer that allows high pressure fuel lines INSIDE an engine should be stripped of his/her credentials. All the manufacturers are using the customer as a free R&D service. Its time it stopped.

Any designer that allows high pressure fuel lines INSIDE an engine should be stripped of his/her credentials.
Unless I misunderstand, didn't they take the fuel lines external on the LLY?

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What about someone, like my truck, that had 3 replaced but before the HUGE problem hit. Should I rant until they replace all 8 at the same time. I guess it is only a matter of time when others will fail. GM needs to get some balls and admit the ****ed up and replace all.


Ben http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Rock On.gif

192553 wrote:
"Chevrolet has issued letters to all registered owners of 2001-2002 Duramax powered vehicles. The letter states that the WARRANTY PERIOD FOR THE INJECTORS ONLY is increased to 200,000 miles. The $100 charge is waived."

That is not correct. It appears that a majority of owners have not
received this letter. It seems to be very hap-hazard

This is friggin ridiculuous GM should pull their heads of of their a$$ and replace every bad injector ASAP as a recall. Maby some one should get in touch with one of the TV news shows and make the problem a little more public. As John Stossel (20-20) would say "Give Me A Break"

56 Nomad


It is correct that the letters have been issued, to ALL registered owners of 2001-2002, BUT as you say, for some reason, not all owners have received them. If you have your dealer pull up your VIN and it falls in that year range, there is an icon next to it denoting notification sent, but does not say when or how.

To jholley


That is true, but which senior technical design team member signed off on such a glaring design deficiency in the early engines?


Read an Ford press release couple of weeks ago regarding the design team for the new hybrid SUV. They were explaining that one of the team came from working with Navy ships which use electric generation and propulsion, and this made him emminently qualified in this field. The rest were proudly enviromentalists. Now, I personally do not know of ANY current ships that use electricity to drive the propellors. There is the new class under test (not doing too well) that use drives of a much higher order, and nukes that make steam to drive the generators, but that is about it. Maybe the target market for the SUV is the navy?


I guess my pet peeve is "where are all the people who are experienced (not "qualified" that does not count as experience) in all aspects of automotive R&D and production). I as a consumer am tired of being the third leg of the high mileage test team, and paying a pretty penny for the privilege.


When are manufacturers going to wake up and try and build brand loyalty, which comes from having a well built, affordable vehicle for each type of consumer group, backed by a warranty that is fair and balanced and a reasonable cost to own/operate per mile?


Safety/Quality/Affordability and profitability can be acheived, look to Toyota as an example, but it has to start at the top. Unfortunately, the majority of manufacturers management teams are nowhere near there.

"GM announces $1.3 BILLION profit for last quarter." That's $2.5 BILLION for the year, boys. HMMMM...wonder where that extra cash is going.....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif "Planned obsolesence"


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