Hello all, first post here so bear with me!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

I'm trying to special order a new GMC, and I've called a couple of GMC dealers here and so far they seem baffled and/or unwilling and/or unable to place an order for me.

One would think that when someone is ready to buy a $40K vehicle, that the sales staff would be falling all over themselves trying to make the deal.

Does anyone here have information as to whether GM is accepting 2005 truck orders yet???

Many thanks in advance!

Lloyd Coulson
Bellaire (Houston area) Texas
bellauto@birch.net

YES, you should be able to order. IMO I would be looking for another stealer that is in the know!http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif And WELCOME!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Thanks Steve - for the advice and the welcome!

Being a Pontiac "nut", I frequent a couple of Pontiac boards, but now that I'm finally stepping up to a Duramax, figured that I might as well start coming here and getting advice from the pros!

If I don't get some action from the two dealers I've already contacted within the next day or so, I'll just keep looking!

Take care!

Well, I finally found a dealer - on the fourth try! - who was interested enough to sit down with me and order the truck. They WILL accept my GM Supplier Discount Coupon as well.

Went through the GM AutoBook, confirmed all options, then he entered into the V.O.M.S. system which accepted the order. Order number "HMDSF5". Said he won't know much until next Tuesday as far as allocation and solid info on any possible constraints. He DID call GM to check on constraints while I was there, and was told that the DuraMax was on 50% constraint, and Silver Birch was on a 60% constraint???

TC25743 2500HD CC 2WD 6.5' box. Options other than what comes with the SLT package - LLY, M74, G80, PDN, SAF, UE1, U01, U2K, U42, Z82 & QIW. Silver Birch with Pewter leather.

Now the waiting begins!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

I'll be contacting Howard_m18 to help me track it once we receive the T.P.W.

What dealer did you order from in Houston???? I ordered my 2005 thru Gay Pontiac-GMC in Dickinsion,Tx. Haven't gotten a TPW or any pricing yet.

What dealer did you order from in Houston???? I ordered my 2005 thru Gay Pontiac-GMC in Dickinsion,Tx. Haven't gotten a TPW or any pricing yet.

I would have preferred to order mine through a family owned dealership - such as Gay - but Gay was the third dealership which neever called me back after I contacted them about ordering an '05!

I ended up at Southwest Pontiac GMC Hummer in Stafford. Come August 1st they will be owned by the David Taylor (Buick/Caddy) group. Currently owned mostly by GM.

VERY cool - got my TPW today!

August 16th! Hopefully I'll be taking delivery before the end of August!

Haven't gotten my TPW yet. Will get with dealer & see when i get back to land from the Gulf Of Mexico.

Called dealer & he said GM picked up the order but doesn't have a TPW yet. So hopefully it will get built in August sometime....

Ordered mine June 28 - Dealer expects order to be accepted next week - crossing my fingers for end of August - no price yet!

Ordered mine June 28 - Dealer expects order to be accepted next week - crossing my fingers for end of August - no price yet!

My order was accepted at the VERY moment it was ordered.

Your salesperson is handing you a load of shi!.

Got my TPW today it will be week of August 23rd. Hopefully will have it by middle of September.

Please excuse my ingorance but what is a TPW and how can it be that I placed my order on 6-28-04 and, per the dealer it has not been accepted yet and I have not been given a build date?? It seems some on this thread are getting quick responses on their orders and some are not. I did change my order from a gasser to a Dmax last week because I was told that the order was soon to be "accepted" and I wouldn't be able to change it after that.

I don't suspect my dealer is giving me the run around as I know the salesman well and they are a very high volume dealer who have always treated me well in the past. I will be posing this same question to them on Monday and just want to have my facts straight.

TPW == Target Production Week or week that truck will be built.


Your dealer may or may not have an allocation for the Dmax that may be why GM hasnt picked up the order yet.

Your dealer may or may not have an allocation for the Dmax that may be why GM hasnt picked up the order yet.


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What do ya mean by "Allocation for the Dmax" ????? I know they got a load of Dmax's in on Thursday of 2004's. Does that mean they have to wait until they have enough orders to get a truck load basically?? I do know my order was one of the first of the 2005 Dmax's for this dealer.

Thanks!!

From what i was told each dealer only gets so many diesel's per year depends how much they sale i guess & how big the dealership is. Iam sure they will get the order picked up, mine took a month or so to get picked up. Sounds like they are a big dealership if they got a load of 2004 dmax's in. Why dont you get an 04 not sure if the rebates will be around for the 05's. If i could find an 04 i would get it in a heartbeat, Ive had dealers search up to 1000 miles out of Houston for a truck no luck on color & options i wanted.

My '05 purchase all started with an innocent look at upgrading from my current 1998 GMC 1500 gasser to a 2004 1500 gasser crew cab because the deals were so good and we needed extra room for the family. Mentioned this to my brother and he offered to buy my 1998 at a fair price. Next thing you know, I was shopping for a new truck when I really had just been toying with the idea!

That was about a month ago. When looking I learned that I could get a 2500HD for less money than a 1500 because of the rebates offered. Then I fell in love with the 2500HD's but could not find one with the options I wanted (not to mention color). The trucks I found on searches all had $2500-$3500 extra toys on them that I really don't need (SLT / front buckets / premium sound) which ate up my rebate anyways and I wasn't getting exactly what I wanted so I decided on ordering an '05 gasser. Then the current rebates came out and the 2004 supply really dried up.
A few weeks ago the DMax bug got me and the rest is history.

Please excuse my ingorance but what is a TPW and how can it be that I placed my order on 6-28-04 and, per the dealer it has not been accepted yet and I have not been given a build date?? It seems some on this thread are getting quick responses on their orders and some are not. I did change my order from a gasser to a Dmax last week because I was told that the order was soon to be "accepted" and I wouldn't be able to change it after that.

I don't suspect my dealer is giving me the run around as I know the salesman well and they are a very high volume dealer who have always treated me well in the past. I will be posing this same question to them on Monday and just want to have my facts straight.


This thread might answer some of your questions:


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5257&PN=1

Zeeb,

Thanks - it does help!

Got my TPW today it will be week of August 23rd. Hopefully will have it by middle of September.

Cool!

We'll have to get together and compare. If nothing changes for either of our orders, I suppose we should be getting our trucks within a week of each other!

My dealer called me today reference my 2005 2500HD D/A to say that the reason I haven't neard anything on a TPW since 6/28 is because there is a "hold" on the CARBON METALLIC. They are meeting with a GM rep today and will try to get more info.

Wondering if any of you have any info????

Maybe this is a bad omen for my quest to get my very first diesel???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

My dealer called me today reference my 2005 2500HD D/A to say that the reason I haven't neard anything on a TPW since 6/28 is because there is a "hold" on the CARBON METALLIC. They are meeting with a GM rep today and will try to get more info.

Wondering if any of you have any info????

Maybe this is a bad omen for my quest to get my very first diesel???http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


Im wondering whats going on here, because the dealer I'm working with wont even take my order, because like he says GM hasn't even released the new pricing yet and with out it no orders will be accepted, Iv called a few other dealers and they have told me the same thing, are you sure this salesman isn't jerking you around so you don't start looking else were, did you give him a deposit to order the truck for you?.

the dealer I'm working with wont even take my order, because like he says GM hasn't even released the new pricing yet and with out it no orders will be accepted, Iv called a few other dealers and they have told me the same thing, are you sure this salesman isn't jerking you around so you don't start looking else were, did you give him a deposit to order the truck for you?.[/QUOTE]

You ARE being jerked around. Pricing rarely becomes available before new model year vehicles begin arriving at the dealerships. This happens EVERY YEAR.
As I stated above, there was no pricing available when I special ordered MY truck, and I already have the TPW!

Lloyd did you need to put down a deposit on your ordered truck, or did the salesman place the order without any money down, I guess what I'm trying to ask is, have you and the salesman and dealership agreed on the final price your going to pay when your truck comes in?. Edited by: BuckeyeQuicky

I can give you my two cents worth. My dealer supposedly placed the order with no problem or deposit (GM Employee Discount).

I did a search for 2005 2500 HD with the D/A on GMBUYPOWER.COM and found 2005 models at the same as 2004. In other words it had a window sticker the same as 2004's.

One more thing to add....OOZAMAKAK is taking possession of his 2005 D/A tomorrow as per this thread!??????

http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12690&PN=1

Lloyd did you need to put down a deposit on your ordered truck, or did the salesman place the order without any money down, I guess what I'm trying to ask is, have you and the salesman and dealership agreed on the final price your going to pay when your truck comes in?.

BeQ:

Every dealer stes own policies, but where I ordered mine he did NOT request a deposit at the time I ordered it.

Unknown at this time what the final price will be, but since they are accepting my GMS discount coupon there will be no negotiations involved - the GMS price is clearly marked on the invoice. On my current '02 1500HD it was very slightly under the invoice amount.

On another note, I heard on the news this morning that GM is raising their prices 1% over the '04 models, which will equate to about $400 increase on my invoice amount.

Hope this helps!

I haven't been in the car business for a number of years now, but if it's still anything like it was, there's no pricing until the official model year release.


The vehicles are ordered by the dealers for the new model year introduction, but they come into the dealership with no stickers and the dealers are not billed for them until just before the release date.


That means the dealers don't know what the price changes, if any, will be. Since the dealers have not paid for the vehicles, they don't have the MSO (Manufacturer's Statement of Origin) and that means they can't license them.


The factory used to be really sticky about that part. The new stuff would start to show up on the lots in early to mid August, but no deliveries until the release date.


As far as accepting orders, the only reasons the dealer might have for not accepting an order, is because of dealership policies, or maybe they don't have allocation.


As I say, things might have changed, but from my recent experience they are not much different. The only thing I'm not sure about is when you can actually take possesion once it hits the lot...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifEdited by: Zeeb

Well . . . I just got off the phone with my salesman and got a LITTLE bit of disappointing news. My TPW has just been pushed back to August 23rd. Still at "event code" 3000.

Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to wait a little longer than I anticipated. I thought that my first TPW (08/16) seemed awfully quick anyway.

Did a Gm Buypower search for 2500HD & there are a few 05's with Duramax/Allision out there at the dealers. So i guess there starting to show up on the lots...

I haven't been in the car business for a number of years now, but if it's still anything like it was, there's no pricing until the official model year release.


The vehicles are ordered by the dealers for the new model year introduction, but they come into the dealership with no stickers and the dealers are not billed for them until just before the release date.


That means the dealers don't know what the price changes, if any, will be. Since the dealers have not paid for the vehicles, they don't have the MSO (Manufacturer's Statement of Origin) and that means they can't license them.


The factory used to be really sticky about that part. The new stuff would start to show up on the lots in early to mid August, but no deliveries until the release date.


As far as accepting orders, the only reasons the dealer might have for not accepting an order, is because of dealership policies, or maybe they don't have allocation.


As I say, things might have changed, but from my recent experience they are not much different. The only thing I'm not sure about is when you can actually take possesion once it hits the lot...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif





I called another big GMC dealer up in Birmingham and basically said the same thing you did, as a matter of fact he said he has 5 new one setting behind the building that were delivered about a week ago, but he cannot sale them because GM didn't release the prices for them yet, he fells that sometime next week they well send the pricing along with the window stickers, another thing he told me was that different regions may be able to sell before others, so I guess I will wait until the pricing comes out here in the pan handle then Ill place my order.

I went to my dealer today for some answers and asked him if I changed the color from carbon metallic to another another color if it would speed the process.

He pulled up a chair for me, turned his VOM (Vehicle Order Management) computer screen towards me and said "let's take a look at whats going on"

He showed me my Carbon Metallic order is listed as "first priority" (the highest he can go) but still hasn't been picked -up by GM yet. He also pointed out that an order very similar to my truck (same color) that was placed one week before mine had just been accepted. The VOM shows that the following colors are on "short supply": Polo Green (my second choice, of course), Carbon Metallic, and the new blue color (unavailable)although they had just opened up Carbon Metallic as being available again but still in "short supply". I asked how this could be and he says it always seems to happen at the beginning of each model year with certain models - production gets behind and the dealers fight for the most popular vehicles / colors (basic supply & demand)but he still doesn't fully understand how GM decides what to build first. The fact that they are only built in one plant (Flint, MI) doesn't help matters. Heck, I only live 40 minutes from where they are built - let me in the plant and I'll help build it (now there's a sales concept for car & truck nuts!) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

He offered to put in a second identical order as mine with another color of my choice and allow me to take either truck when they come in. I can take the first one that comes in or wait for the Carbon if it's not far behind -- that doesn't sound like a dealer that's "giving me a line of Sh***"

I asked about the 2005 pricing (I'm buying with a GMS discount so the price is fixed anyways). He says that he can't sell a 2005 until GM sends the invoice which he expects to be next week.

I aksed about rebates. There is currently $1000 or 3.9% for 60 months. He anticipates this incentive to continue or maybe improve somewhat depending on how sales do for August.

I went to my dealer today for some answers and asked him if I changed the color from carbon metallic to another another color if it would speed the process.

He pulled up a chair for me, turned his VOM (Vehicle Order Management) computer screen towards me and said "let's take a look at whats going on"

He showed me my Carbon Metallic order is listed as "first priority" (the highest he can go) but still hasn't been picked -up by GM yet. He also pointed out that an order very similar to my truck (same color) that was placed one week before mine had just been accepted. The VOM shows that the following colors are on "short supply": Polo Green (my second choice, of course), Carbon Metallic, and the new blue color (unavailable)although they had just opened up Carbon Metallic as being available again but still in "short supply". I asked how this could be and he says it always seems to happen at the beginning of each model year with certain models - production gets behind and the dealers fight for the most popular vehicles / colors (basic supply & demand)but he still doesn't fully understand how GM decides what to build first. The fact that they are only built in one plant (Flint, MI) doesn't help matters. Heck, I only live 40 minutes from where they are built - let me in the plant and I'll help build it (now there's a sales concept for car & truck nuts!) http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

He offered to put in a second identical order as mine with another color of my choice and allow me to take either truck when they come in. I can take the first one that comes in or wait for the Carbon if it's not far behind -- that doesn't sound like a dealer that's "giving me a line of Sh***"

I asked about the 2005 pricing (I'm buying with a GMS discount so the price is fixed anyways). He says that he can't sell a 2005 until GM sends the invoice which he expects to be next week.

I aksed about rebates. There is currently $1000 or 3.9% for 60 months. He anticipates this incentive to continue or maybe improve somewhat depending on how sales do for August.



My bad!

It sure sounds like your dealer is willing to do wahtever it takes!

Good luck to you!

I suppose the color I picked (Silver Birch) must be fairly popular becuase I got my order was accepted immediately.

No offense meant - BTW he did say that Silver Birch, Black and White semed to be the colors where he was getting quick acceptance.

I think I'm just going to hold-out for the Carbon. Just luck of the draw I guess - still makes for a looooong wait though when you're foaming at the mouth to get a new truck!

Robhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

No offense meant - BTW he did say that Silver Birch, Black and White semed to be the colors where he was getting quick acceptance.

I think I'm just going to hold-out for the Carbon. Just luck of the draw I guess - still makes for a looooong wait though when you're foaming at the mouth to get a new truck!

Robhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Yep - it's gonna be tough to wait for the Carbon, but spending THIS much money, you prolly ought to wait for what you really want.

When I placed MY order, the salesman said that GM told him that Silver Birch was on a 60% "constraint", whatever that means. I was prepared to change my order to Summit White if it didn't get picked up fairly soon.

No offense meant - BTW he did say that Silver Birch, Black and White semed to be the colors where he was getting quick acceptance.

I think I'm just going to hold-out for the Carbon. Just luck of the draw I guess - still makes for a looooong wait though when you're foaming at the mouth to get a new truck!

Robhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Yep - it's gonna be tough to wait for the Carbon, but spending THIS much money, you prolly ought to wait for what you really want.

When I placed MY order, the salesman said that GM told him that Silver Birch was on a 60% "constraint", whatever that means. I was prepared to change my order to Summit White if it didn't get picked up fairly soon.

More disappointing news today - my TPW has been pushed back ANOTHER week to August 30th.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

Oh well, I should remember the old saying that "good things come to those who wait", LOL!

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Lloyd, with the H2 wheels on the '02 1500HD, are you able to use the hummer centercaps. I've read conflicting info and I figured you should know.
In 1995 I was one of the first in California to receive a special order '96 5700 Vortec Tahoe. Yes, it is worth the wait to get exactly what you want!

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&gt; H2 wheels & P285/65/R17 Eagle GT II's, K&N drop-in, HPP III </blockquote>
&lt;P dir=ltr&gt;Lloyd, with the H2 wheels on the '02 1500HD, are you able to use the hummer centercaps. I've read conflicting info and I figured you should know.
&lt;P dir=ltr&gt;In 1995 I was one of the first in California to receive a special order '96 5700 Vortec Tahoe. Yes, it is worth the wait to get exactly what you want!

Yep - the caps snap right on.

I'll prolly use the OEM GMC caps on my '05, however.

I have been having the same problem trying to find a dealer within 50 miles that will even show me a truck or even drive it more than 5 miles on a testdrive. Most GMC dealers don't even want to talk about a Duramax.


Is it possible for my local chevy dealer to order me a GMC???

Is it possible for my local chevy dealer to order me a GMC???





Umm...No...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Disapprove.gif

Great news, finally hit event code 3100 and my TPW is still August 30th!

I have been having the same problem trying to find a dealer within 50 miles that will even show me a truck or even drive it more than 5 miles on a testdrive. Most GMC dealers don't even want to talk about a Duramax.


Is it possible for my local chevy dealer to order me a GMC???





There is a dealer down here that sells both chevy and gmc-it is not a big dealer though.


I read on gm's website something about a 24hour test drive. I don't know what the catch is though- maybe someone else will chime in.


IMO, The dealer doesn't want to talk to you because they either don't have qualified mechanics, or they don't take you seriously.

Yeah Baby!

Up to event code 3400 - it's getting close now!

skoryaro2,


theirs an 04 Carbon Metallic in greenville, Ohio i think the dealers name is Hittle.

Dealer called yesterday &amp; said truck will be here on the 10th of this month....cant wait.....

skoryaro2,


theirs an 04 Carbon Metallic in greenville, Ohio i think the dealers name is Hittle.

Thanks for the info - The '05 is so close now I can almost taste it!! Hopes it's worth the wait. Mod.s / filters / oil all sitting on my workbench waiting for a truck to put it in http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

My "baby" is built and loaded on the rail car, sitting in Flint, MI. C.N. railroad will be hauling it to Salem, IL tomorrow, and from there U.P. will be hauling it to Houston.

It will be arriving at the Hardy Toll Road railhead @ 6:01 AM on Monday the 13th.

Thanks mucho to Howard_m18 for helping track everything!!!

PS - my salesman was AMAAZED at how much info I had available, but as Howard has told me several times - keep it QUIET!

LLOYD, JUST DOING MY JOB??!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

The truck should be at the dealers by Wednesday at the latest. My truck got dropped off at the Hardy toll road railroad station on Labor day &amp; it was delivered to dealer on the 8th. I picked it up on the 9th from dealer....

I haven't tried to upload an image on this forum yet, so here goes - my invoice!

Page 1:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/2005_2500HD_Invoice.jpg

Page 2:
http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/2005_2500HD_Invoice_B.jpg

Lloyd did you need to put down a deposit on your ordered truck, or did the salesman place the order without any money down, I guess what I'm trying to ask is, have you and the salesman and dealership agreed on the final price your going to pay when your truck comes in?.

funtoy:

Since I own an AC-Delco TSS repair shop, I can purchase new GM vehicles at the "Supplier" price (circled on my invoice above - $40,717.57). The program is strictly voluntary at the dealer level - some dealers will accept GMS discount coupons and some won't.

When I ordered the truck, we agreed in advance that I would be paying the supplier price + TT&L. We did not know the actual $$$ until the invoice arrived at the dealer on Saturday.

did they give you an estimated price when you ordered the truck?

tacoma:

GM had not released pricing info to the dealers when I ordered my truck. Pricing was available through Kelly Blue Book's website, so I figured that was gonna be fairly close. On the date I ordered, KBB said invoice would be $40,139.70, and my actual invoice ended up at $41,145.93. I'm actually paying $40,717.57 + TT&L (1% UNDER invoice).

Hope this helps!