Hey guys,


I have about 5 gallons of this stuff(yes, I stock up http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif). It is the Amsoil ATF. I bought it from extreme diesel. I was wondering is this stuff going to cause my tranny to run hotter and slip? I have been reading posts but didnt know if Amsoil had changed anything.





Thanks,


Chad

Use it, it's good stuff.

made mine slip..............its too slick......

you had a problem with the universal atf right, you never tried the other replacemnt transynd stuff right? what conditions/added power? what were you running before/after and what did it do?

So, should I use it or not? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Oh yeah, this is the universal ATF, btw.

IIRC Dave had a problem with the Synthetic ATF not the New Torque Drive Synthetic.


I believe it was concluded the Synthetic ATF didn't have the friction additive desired .


Mac

made mine slip..............its too slick......


Dave, what are you using now?


mike

The Universal ATF will not hold when big power is applied. But the Torque Drive will hold what ever you can put to it. So would I use it, yes if you are stock or have a small tune installed.

Greg

made mine slip..............its too slick......


Dave, what are you using now?


mike





What ever Joe put in .





Mac http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Dexron 111.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif


I will stay with Mobil 1 ( synthetic replacement for aformetioned fluid). They wrote the book. Prove me wrong.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Tongue.gif


mike

I would use it.


I've been running the last 65K with it. Haven't had a slip induced by it either.

I am not saying I would recommend it, but after about 12-13k of beating on mine pretty good, the Amsoil ATF looked brand new. I am interested in the new copy of Transynd myself after seeing how the old stuff looked.

I've been using the Amsoil Universal ATF for about 45,000 miles now. I'm not a "thrasher" and keep my Edge on levels 3 and 4 and have had no problems. I still have about 2/3 of a 5 gallon jug, so I'm going to buy 5 qts and use it again for a change at 90,000 miles just to use it up. What I go with on the next change will be a while down the road.

Hey guys,


I have all that I need to install my Mag Hytec deep pan so I am gonna use the Amsoil. I need a answer on whether I should use the Amsoil ATF or go get some Dexron III from the dealership? I am running an Edge w/ Attitude on setting 4. My mods are in my sig. I have to know so I can get more fluid if needed. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif

Since you already have the Amsoil just get more to complete the job. I would synthetic any day over mineral.

Greg

dont need to get dex from the dealer, you can get regular dex anywere.


JMO but if your not already synthetic in there or going to go to synthetic putting 1/2 syn in there isnt going to matter. Either do the flush method of getting the syn in there or just use regular dino atf. JMO but if you have regular fluid in there and just drain the pan and replace what was lost with syn you arnt seeing any benifit and just using a bunch of high $$$ fluid, its only as good as its weakest link, if you get to hot enough temp to cook the dino oil then the fact that you have a bunch of synthetic floating around in there dont help much. JMO Unless I dont understand you or you are planning on doing a flush while you are at it?

Hey guys,


There is Dexron III in there right now. I was planning on draining all of the fluid I could by taking the pan off and the spin on filter and re-filling it with Amsoil universal ATF. I have enough Amsoil to refill it(5 gallons worth here at my house). So what should I do? Put Dexron back in it or fill it up with Amsoil?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

Fill it with the Amsoil. I would do a flush as per the Hoot instructions in the DYI section. Then its all done and you have the full effect of a synthetic.

Greg

Did you have your Trans upgrade done? I was wondering what fluid they recommended. I was think of flushing and going with Transynd.

Use Transynd or the Amsoil Torque Drive.

Greg

you had a problem with the universal atf right, you never tried the other replacemnt transynd stuff right? what conditions/added power? what were you running before/after and what did it do?flushed it and changed to transynd and it slipped a lot less..........dex 3 per joe now.....dont have any experience w/the new torque drive amsoil......Is it allison certified?

you had a problem with the universal atf right, you never tried the other replacemnt transynd stuff right? what conditions/added power? what were you running before/after and what did it do?flushed it and changed to transynd and it slipped a lot less..........dex 3 per joe now.....dont have any experience w/the new torque drive amsoil......Is it allison certified?





Yes !

Joe calls for regular dex? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


I'm running mobil 1 in my stage 3http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

I will be running Mobil 1 synthetic ATF. I just purchased 6gal at $100.00 from a local Mobil Lubricants distributor (quite a bit cheaper than AMSOIL) and I am sure it is every bit as good or better.

i ran the univ. atf for a while and the tranny didn't slip any more than it used to with a predator 100HP.. beat it pretty good and the fluid looked fine. running the torqshift now and tranny fluid looks/smells fine.. beating this stuff much harder too

I purchase a good quality Dex III and drain the sump only and refill at every oil change while I'm under there. I then spin on a filled filter every 25K. The fluid looks like new at each drain and it's only a few more $ added to each oil change. Very few people drain the converter at changes anyway and the fluid is always fresh. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

I posted on another thread that I took my truck to have the tranny fluid dropped and changed over to transynd and the dealer told me this would void my warranty. They had one of the regional GM reps on-site and he confirmed this. I questioned why it would since transynd exceeds the Dexron III specs and was told that's just the way it is. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


I sent an e-mail to Chevrolet asking for confirmation of this but haven't heard back yet. Has anyone else researched this before and/or received solid confirmation from GM that changing over to transynd, Amsoil or any other ATF besides Dexron III does not void the warranty? I only have 5200 miles on mine so I'm not going to risk it unless I have something in writing, not hearsay, from GM. Appreciate any help. I tow heavy and want to go to the deeper pan and synthetic atf asap. JJ http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

You guys that are running stock clutches (Borg Warner) need to find out from them what they recommend not anyone else. For those of us that are running aftermarket clutches; better listen to the company that sold you those clutches. This is a very critical subject and be very carefull. Synthetic fluid is the best. Which synthetic fluid is a very critical question. I have had some very severe fluid reactions with certain transmissions lately. I just did a Jaguar ('02) that required MerconV. I work on a lot of Fords that require MerconV and have seen better response with Dex 3. Not this baby. It went bananas with the Dex 3. I switched to Motorcraft MerconV and smoothed that baby out. I looked at the case that the Merc came out and it said MerconV/Dexron3 blend. Go figure. Like I said, this is not a guessing game anymore. Allison says TranSynd only in the 2000MH. All other models Dexron 3 ONLY. This is just a report from what I am reading and learning. Take it for what it is worth. My Ally will run Dex 3 or an exact replacement for it which is Mobil 1, nothing else.


mike

I don't like stepping on anyones toes http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gifbut I did do quite a bit of research on transynd. Check this link from Allison transmissions website where it states you can run transynd in GM equipped pickups. There is also usefull info on other aspects of our transmissions.


http://www.allisontransmission.com/service/faq/index.jsp?CategoryID=11#97


I spoke with the Allison tranny service manager locally and he confirmed that we can use transynd in our 1000 series; now GM is another question! If I understood him correctly the difference between the tranny we have in our 3500 (light duty) and the 1000 put into medium duty trucks is the parking pawl (hope I spelled that right). He stated to be sure and set the parking brake first, then shift to neutral to release any tension off the pawl, then shift to park, and you won't have any problems with the 1000 series. They have very few problems with the tranny if operated within specs.


Lots of good info here. I'm still waiting on a reply from GM on whether using transynd will void my warranty. Will advise. JJ http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Wonder how big the pawl is on the bigger trucks? That sucker is one serious chunk of metal in ours.

If I understood him correctly the larger trucks don't have one. Don't know why. I'm sure there are techies out there that know the answer. JJ http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

The GM truck is used differently than trucks normaly serviced by Allison. They have no idea what we need for our trucks. Allison dealers rarely see a 1000. The trucks they see cruise at 5- 20 mph with a lower gear ratio than we have. They don't know what it is to tow a big load with higher gears and probably a power program to boot in a small truck. They don't know what kind of punishment our trucks put on the converter clutch under load at the RPM's we use.


mike

Sorry I didn't get to finish last post. (talking to 5 people at the same time). Do not take all the info from Allison as gospel when it comes to our trucks. We have a different breed than they do. My Allison dealer sends me the GM trucks to work on and he is NOT interested at all in any of the mods that I do. He likes what I do, but he will not use my info. He says he can't.


mike

Good points Mike L. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif So I have 5 gallons of transynd atf, a deep pan and filter($200 invested)! What to do, what to do? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gifLocal Chevy dealer says if I use transynd my warranty will be voided. I sent GM an e-mail asking for confirmation of this but haven't heard back yet. If they say my warranty is voided it will be a synthetic Dexron III going in. Any suggestions?


I haven't read any posts where anyone has had a problem using transynd, but I have with folks using Amsoil that really push the limits on the 1000, especially in 1st and 5th. The newer Amsoil syn ATF, I believe it is called "torque shift?" may have addressed these issues.


I tow heavy so I want max lubrication, minimal slippage, lower operating temperatures and longer life for the tranny. Good intel guys! JJ http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

Put it in and forget about it. The dealer you went to is a little out of touch.

Greg

Roger that LanduytG. The transynd is going in this weekend. JJ http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif