ok here is what i want to do. i want to get a 2007.5 chevy 2500hd, and do mods to it to get it down to 10-12sec 1/4 mile. i know it is doable, i have priced it out to be around 30,000-40,000 to do it on top of the price of the truck. now i was windering if this would get a crew cab 2500 stock height down to those numbers. i would be putting slicks on, as well as taking out un-needed weight.

the things i have prices out are

power rogrammer
chip
new turbo
exhust
headers
upgraded trans
racing slicks

that is all that you can think of so anything else would be greatly appericated, i am i new to this so please take it easy. ohh all that stuff was from ppe except the exhust and headers. but if there are other companie i should be looking at as well please tell me.

You could do it for much less than $30 or 40k!

EFILive $600 approx only tuner you'll ever need
tuning $??? unless you can tune it yourself
exhaust $500
lift pumps $650
tie rod sleeves $150
Cognito braces $200
Tranny $4500
Turbo $2k and up


Rods/cam/heads/headstuds/pistons/injectors...... I'm thinking $10k or under, may be way off though.

Tires $???


Woopin up on all these rice burners/vettes/stangs/vipers.........PRICELESS!
Just remember labor costs $$$$. These would get you to the 11's easy with some practice and work, right guys?


Good luck and have fun, welcome and enjoy!

guages too! Pyro and boost a MUST!

i was going to have it all profesional installed and tuned and try to pick up on tuning as i went along as well. but i was counting everything installed by someone else. but if it is that cheep then mabye i will have to do it sooner than i thought.

$40,000? Heck I make you an LB7 that will run 11's on fuel and you can keep your 07 stock! Any particular color? ;)

actually i am still planning on buy the diesel, so i don't have the truck as of now, probly around april i will get it. but i am trying to get a parts list down so that when i get the truck i can get all the parts ordered and here quickly after i get the truck.

Hell, I'll sell you mine, ready to go. Babied since new:D

Turn key 11 sec. ride. $45,000. Still under warranty. Even have a snow plow so you can make some money off of it.

just kinda want to do this myself with my own truck. and yes i want a black truck stock height. i mean it will be an everyday racing show truck. i want to keep it for a long time and want to make sure that i can do anything i will ever need to do in it. which is why i want to do it myself. but thanks for the offers. just some great parts to put into it would be what i am after that way i know what kinda extra money i need to save for the engine upgrades.

depending on tranny-5-8k
turbo(s)- 2-6k
fuelers-1-2k
efilive-$600
tie rod sleeves-$150
somewhere around 10k will get you where you want to be.

this si sounding more doable everytime one of you posts. i will post the list of equipment that i first had selected and you can tell me what else i need and how much on top of it everything will be.

new turbo
ppe-Duramaximizer 2006
ppe-Duramax LLY & LBZ Xcellerator 2006
ppe-Stage IV Transmission Kit
ppe-Mag-Hytec Heavy Duty Transmission Pan
ppe-Duramax Dual Fueler CP3 Pump Kit
banks 4" exhust or mbrp 5"

none of this is probly the right stuff and you all will stear me in different directions, but mabye with the extra money i can upgrade the stuff a little more than i was hoping. i am also close to SDHQ so if i could pick up the stuff there that would be nice.

Trade out Duramaximizer and Xcellerator for EFI live. That will save you a couple hundred anyways and its better. Then trade out ppe transmission for either an ATS or a Suncoast stage V. Your truck is gonna be nasty.

If you are serious about this, and you want to start with a new truck, I would recommend you buy a current 06-07 truck. Once the new body style trucks (I'm guessing that's what you mean by 07.5) come out they will, or should, have all the new emissions equipment on them. That may cause problems for you until someone figures out how to get rid of that.

EFI live is a definite must (should be out for the LBZ by the end of the year).

Dual CP3s of some variety (currently available from ATS, TTS and PPE) would also be a very necessary part of the equation, especially if you want to do it on fuel.

ok so i am changing to efi live, do you think twin turbo would be better? cause i mean i want to do this right and i wll be doing racing slicks and everything. but i will look into the efi live and then subcoast trans stage v got it.

ok so i am changing to efi live, do you think twin turbo would be better? cause i mean i want to do this right and i wll be doing racing slicks and everything. but i will look into the efi live and then subcoast trans stage v got it.
you have a pm. twins are great!

If you are serious about this, and you want to start with a new truck, I would recommend you buy a current 06-07 truck. Once the new body style trucks (I'm guessing that's what you mean by 07.5) come out they will, or should, have all the new emissions equipment on them. That may cause problems for you until someone figures out how to get rid of that.

EFI live is a definite must (should be out for the LBZ by the end of the year).

Dual CP3s of some variety (currently available from ATS, TTS and PPE) would also be a very necessary part of the equation, especially if you want to do it on fuel.
very true on the year model of the truck, LBZ's are fairly new, and the LMM's may take some time to get runnin right.

ok here is a new list of stuff and a list of prices

Efilive- $700.00
Exhust- mbrp Down Pipe Back, Off-Road, Cool Duals™ S6006409 $1099.04
Lift pumps- Duramax Dual Fueler CP3 Pump Kit $3995.00
Steering- PPE performance steering system $1300
Transmission- GM-1004-2X/4X suncoast stage V $3269.99
Turbo- Garrett Ball Bearing GT40+GT42, done by Idaho ctd? $8,000
Connecting rods- TTS power systems $2500
TTS power systems Race port- $4500


sound like a good truck?

Don't forget a converter!

I'd buy a clean used lly and spend about $15-20k on upgrades(tranny,turbo,fuel delivery, and EFI LIVE) I'm not a member of the 11 second club but for less than 40k you can kick some butt at the track at 7,000 lbs, get 20 mpg hwy and tow what ever you want. Pay attention to those here who have the knowledge to point you in the right direction. Most here want to help you reach your goals. BTW, Pat is Casper for sale?

If you want to have a really nasty truck. Buy a 2007.5 half ton 2wd strip it rear half it cage it put a 700 hp dmax in it. Total cost about $100XXX Just my opinion

If you want to have a really nasty truck. Buy a 2007.5 half ton 2wd strip it rear half it cage it put a 700 hp dmax in it. Total cost about $100XXX Just my opinion
$100k?? that's alot. I'm sure this guy wants it to be a daily driver, don't you guy?

Yeah but this guy said the 10 word in his first post. Wants to get it down to a 10-12sec 1/4 mile was actually what it was.

The 12 second recipe everyone is posting above is pretty much spot on. It will last a while too, even dipping into the 11's.

The 10 second part is not even close. Care to guess what the three existing 10 second Duramax trucks have invested?

Then you want to say they are reliable daily drivers. :rolleyes:

If you want the 10 to be in the picture then you better have some dollars stored up. :D

I'm trying to think of ANY car/truck that will run 10's and be a reliable daily driver. Perhaps a motorcycle, a car would be unlikely.

I'm trying to think of ANY car/truck that will run 10's and be a reliable daily driver. Perhaps a motorcycle, a car would be unlikely.


Good question!!! I'd like to hear some responses to that...


I know a bunch of bikes that are in the 9's and are daily driven... basically a Busa or ZX-14 (or even a liter bike) lowered a little bit with exhaust, sticky tire and tuning will get the job done w/ a good rider.

yes i want a daily driver. and i have ruled out that 10's are out of the question. but mid high 11's to low 12's will be fine. and yes to get into 10's i would need a single cab short bed, just get a 1500, then drop a big a$$ duramax in it. but i don't have 100,000 to do that. so an 11-12s truck, with about 25-30k.

did you just win the lottery or something?

no...why? i just like trucks like all of you and this is a goal of mine. and i like to know what i need to buy then buy the best instead of going for the low end stuff right off the bat. but i do get a discount on the dmax, so idk 60,000 for this truck isn't an awful deal.

Need to do alot of reading. There are many small issues that come up. I wouldnt go with any of the PPE trans stuff. Since programing isnt out right now.....well I wouldnt pick anything right now. If EFI live is availible for a new 07 and you are having somone else write a tune for you(in EFI live or just another tuner using something else) then you dont need EFI live at all. If you plan to tune your own truck with EFIlive or the like, plan on a ton of time spent tuning it and learning about tuning it and a ton of time and money at the track and on the dyno tweaking it. N2O is quicker and has a lower by in price than a turbo. I duno if its easier or not.....also its not cheaper in the long run if you spray a ton.

You are going to be waiting a deccent amount of time for the development of products for the new truck as well.

Then once you make the power you are going to have to start working on getting it to hook up. Lotsa time playing with the suspention.

Have you ever drove a 12 flat vehicle let alone on a daily basis? Let alone one that weighs 7000 #'s? Are you prepared to write off any warantee and dump lotsa cash and be out a vehicle when you break something? At that power level you pretty much expect to break **** and hope you dont. At that power level your just figuring your on barrowed time.......

I dont mean to sound discoraging or flame you :) You are just asking alot of big questions.......good luck in your pursuit though :) Reading the comp results forum and speaking with some of the faster guys may give you some ideas.....but remember they have different trucks than what your looking at.

i have never driven a 12s vehicle on a daily basis. i have been in them and know the feeling. but i want to learn to tune and all that stuff as well. get it so that i know the truck. and yes i know that i am on borrowed time that, that is why i am trying to do it right the first time so that if it is less likely or will take longer until i need to reair it.

and yes i know that 11-12 is fast for anything let alone a 7000lbs truck. but just like you i have a goal and plan on reaching it as best i can. and as you can tell i am trying to do it the right way, and not mess anything up at all.

the reason it needs to be a new truck is because my dad is getting it for haing good grades in college, and he onyl wants to buy new, what i could do is get a daily driver instead of a big diesel truck, then use all my extra money to build a race truck...but where is te challenge if it is only for racing? i like the challege of having to do it with a daily driver. and if i do this right the first time i hope to have a second truck, a 1500 or soemthing with a smaller engine to get good gas milage.

but thanks for all of your help, i am going to go over to our local race track here soon and get rules and see what class i would be running in and all that.

You better have an alternative mode of transport when you break something. It sucks when your truck is sitting on jackstands and your waiting on trans parts only to realize something else fried as well. Then you wait longer. Do you know how much it costs to airmail a 75# torque converter? I do and it aint cheap :eek: Having a vehicle outa commision sucks. Also you are probably more likely to screw something up tuning it yourself than having a professional do it;) But it is good to plan ahead so you arnt buying parts twice. That sucks, been there done that and have the T shirt.

I'd opt for a daily driver thats reliable and more economical and then have your play truck if you want to build a fast truck. I'm not talking about a 12 second ride like"oh wow I have been in it and its fast" a 500RWHP truck will get you in trouble in a hurry. You can say "oh I'm a good driver :blahblah:" but it dosnt take much for one to get away from you and only a split second before your on your top. You driven one in rain and snow? Tired? You cant let your GF drive you home from the bar in the rain becasue you had too much to drink. You lived with breaking different stuff at the most inopurtune moments? Lived with driving a rolling cop magnet?I have a T shirt for that too, why you think I have an 06?

You pay a BIG price in $$$ and time and headache for a fast truck. The reality is no were near what some think it takes to own a 10-12 second truck.

A 11 second truck aint all roses and you can say you know that but till you lived it.....then you start to realize.

Again not trying to discourage you :) Just trying to help you have all the facts :)

$100k?? that's alot. I'm sure this guy wants it to be a daily driver, don't you guy?


Lots of people drive cars & trucks that cost $100k or more every day. ):h

i know you are not trying to push me over the edge, but mabye you have i will get a dmax and just do a 6-10" lift with big tires power programmed, mabye an upgraded tubo and trans. then go buy an s-10 or some little truck, or car and drop http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GMC-CHEVY-6-6-DURAMAX-DIESEL-LBZ-ENGINE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQihZ009QQi temZ190051584064QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
this eninge in it that is heavly moded and get that down into the 11's to start with then down into the low 10's and high 9's in the end. what you think?

this sound like a better option?

You wanna put a duramax into an S10? Or a car? That would be really cool but im not rerally sure if this will work. I like your big truck idea though. Just out of curiosity when did you get out of college?

lol idk. i am still in high school. i would love to get more into trucks and massive hi power trucks and cars. and i know i could learn about it. but 5 years of school from next spetember. and i want all this done to my truck by end of freshman year in college. and i everyone keeps telling me not to do this or it will be 2 much money...well i really don't care i mean i like this so do you all, that is why we are here.

I think you need to think this through more you’re just about out of HS and want to drop $60K-$70K into vehicles. That is stupid, especially since you don't know as much as you think you do, most vehicle build ups take years.
Just my .02

i agree you are right, totally. which is why i came up with the second idea, get a stock diesel with just basic upgrades, then get a project vehicle and work off that. and trust me i know i have just about zero knowledge on this...that is why i am here to learn more and try to see if by the time i get the truck i will have enough knowledge to do this and if i don't...then ohh well just wait until i am older.

man i wish i could go to college get a new truck and be able to spend 30,000 or more in one year. You will be waiting a while for the performance parts for the new motors why not by a new 07.

You better have an alternative mode of transport when you break something. It sucks when your truck is sitting on jackstands and your waiting on trans parts only to realize something else fried as well. Then you wait longer. Do you know how much it costs to airmail a 75# torque converter? I do and it aint cheap :eek: Having a vehicle outa commision sucks. Also you are probably more likely to screw something up tuning it yourself than having a professional do it;) But it is good to plan ahead so you arnt buying parts twice. That sucks, been there done that and have the T shirt.

I'd opt for a daily driver thats reliable and more economical and then have your play truck if you want to build a fast truck. I'm not talking about a 12 second ride like"oh wow I have been in it and its fast" a 500RWHP truck will get you in trouble in a hurry. You can say "oh I'm a good driver :blahblah:" but it dosnt take much for one to get away from you and only a split second before your on your top. You driven one in rain and snow? Tired? You cant let your GF drive you home from the bar in the rain becasue you had too much to drink. You lived with breaking different stuff at the most inopurtune moments? Lived with driving a rolling cop magnet?I have a T shirt for that too, why you think I have an 06?

You pay a BIG price in $$$ and time and headache for a fast truck. The reality is no were near what some think it takes to own a 10-12 second truck.

A 11 second truck aint all roses and you can say you know that but till you lived it.....then you start to realize.

Again not trying to discourage you :) Just trying to help you have all the facts :)
That's just plain good advice .....I think I might be the old man here and I have a t-shirt or two also.........

I'm In College 9oh7 - It gets expensive... easy on the idea of the fully modded truck and having a new one... My 03 is pretty much the most bad *** truck at my school (UW-Stout) (this is also a biased opinion:D ) but either way... having a nice truck at school, you must consiter the fact of parking in a lot with 3000 other pieces of s***, with kids who are jealous and green with envy because your car is nicer than theirs. Door-Dings, ect...

I have been here for 4 years, had 3 different trucks, all of which would still be consitered really nice for college students. I dont know your personal plans for attending school (housing arrangements, tuition ect...) , but dumping a huge amount to $$ into a truck is not the ultimate college student idea.

Granted the bad *** truck will turn heads, but anything loud, and big will do that. Wait till your done and have more time... Just my $.02

Good luck either way.

AM

I'm In College 9oh7 - It gets expensive... easy on the idea of the fully modded truck and having a new one... My 03 is pretty much the most bad *** truck at my school (UW-Stout) (this is also a biased opinion:D ) but either way... having a nice truck at school, you must consiter the fact of parking in a lot with 3000 other pieces of s***, with kids who are jealous and green with envy because your car is nicer than theirs. Door-Dings, ect...

yep!:exactly: :(

only way I can have the truck stuff I do is because I prowl ebay daily and find lucky deals from suckers who spell things wrong so no one else finds them. (who spells Tech 2 like TECTWO??):h ) Also I buy lots of used stuff for cheap, my denali center console has almost all of the paint peeled off the ashtray door, but I just leave it open and keep change in it...problem solved you never see the paint peeled off! Sometimes friends give me lucky deals too...denali wood steering wheel (325+ core at jp customs), 4 chrome door handles, wood window switchplates all for 100 bucks! Also I save TONS of $$$$ by doing everything myself. I would probably have upwards of 5,000 dollars in labor costs if I paid someone else to do all the stuff, which would be unrealistic because I pay for every cent of things I do for the truck (and would no way have enough $ to pay for those labor costs)...takes working 3 jobs every summer since I was 14, but its all worth it:ro)

FWIW

Strange thought:

Your money would be best spent first by going to a performance driving school, like Bondurant, etc. Yes, they are expensive ($1000-$5000), but they will teach you how to safely handle high powered vehicles without having to learn the hard way.

A 12 second truck has similiar performance to a Z06 Corvette or turbo Porsche, but without the good handling and brakes.

If parents would send their kids to performance driving schools, it would save alot of lives and in the long run, a lot of money.

Strange thought:

Your money would be best spent first by going to a performance driving school, like Bondurant, etc. Yes, they are expensive ($1000-$5000), but they will teach you how to safely handle high powered vehicles without having to learn the hard way.

A 12 second truck has similiar performance to a Z06 Corvette or turbo Porsche, but without the good handling and brakes.

If parents would send their kids to performance driving schools, it would save alot of lives and in the long run, a lot of money.


:exactly: .... Damn Kids :rolleyes:

Im in college too. But my 2 cents is that when you get out of college and you are on your own you might not be able to afford it then. Do it up and just park in the back of the lot or under street lights. And get an alarm that has the proximity sensor thing. Thats my opinion

i am in college too, and there is no way i could afford to do something like that and feel ok about leaving it parked outside with a bunch of other kids. i would wait till after college and then do it. steezey, are you at UNC?

I'm pretty young. My advice is seriously to not take a sweet ride to college. And dont take something thats a freaking cop magnet. I know what friends vehicles ended up looking like after being at a campus......I also remember stumbling home from bars with them and tossing my cookies on cars in the parking lots. Actually talk to your old man. An s10 aint a bad idea. Buy an s10.....beat the crap outa it durring colledge....then after colledge strip it and make it wicked. You drive a nice car at college and it will get destroyed.....even by accidental drunken idiots stumbling home from bars like me ):h

:funnypost but the real truth!

i see all your points, but i will be living at home my first year and going to ASU, then my next year i hope to be living in an apartment by myself, or with one roommate. but i would have a big car alarm, and be hoefully going to the ASU east campus which is very close to my house. and i would LOVE to go to a driving school, and stuff like that, also a school like wyotech or a motor and body shop school. but i mean i get a new car with a price tag to about 30,000, which is a good deal for me :ro) and i want to have a nice truck, but keep it safe, the alarm i want to get for it has autostart, and cameras that i can aim and get pictures of the people that break into my truck, and i also have a silent alarm feature on it so they don't know it is going off. then i have full coverage insurance including my stereo equipment. so i think in the long run it should be ok.

i'm not here to stop you, but what are you gonna do with the a******s that dig it up... beat em up? i about cried the first door ding in my baby, and she's an 03! i cant imagine the same thing happening with a new truck! Get an LB7, they are the fastest anyways, and you'll save big $$... no voiding warrantys, granted it wont be "new", but find a really nice one, and it'll treat you well unitl you are done with school.... then pimp out the new ride, and go big when she's in the heated garage every night!

i see your wisdom, but i HAVE to get a new truck. i am thinking about getting a chapman super truck http://www.chapmansupertrucks.com/ one of these and keeping that until i am out of college then making it better then. and just having a projects car in college that i can take to the race track, then have a different suspension and stuff and have it go to te dunes, make it an all around truck.

You are one lucky dude 9oh7. If you are living at home, or an appartment then i cant really see TOO many things happening to your truck. I think you would have a bigger chance of getting a dent at a mall or something like that. I made it a year with absolutly no hits, and that was in my last truck. Billygoat, yes I go to UNC. I almost went to wyoming too. What year are you?

i have never hit a thing in my current truck so i mean, i will be going to college...but is that really less dangerous than driving to a high shcool of 4,000? or going to playoff football games for our school? idk might be a little bit more, but no more dangerous than going to the mall i would think. plus insurance will more than likely cover any damage to the truck.

There ya go. If i were you I would get the truck, dont COMPLETELY deck it but get it up there. I think that high school kids are more ruethless. I would make sure that your insurance company is down with covering you for that stuff though. But hey, if you can afford it then do it up. You must have gotten some serious graduation presents.

just in my opionion i would first of all buy a house with a garage, that way u are not pissin away all of your money renting a place, then wait a while and see how your money issue is, then buy what u can afford, so u dont have to worry about hail damage as much, and u do not worry about ppl messing with it at night. I am in college and thats what i did, and so far my truck is in as good of shape as when i bought it. but thats just my .02

9oh7, theres no possible way to get where you wanting to be with your truck with out a kicker box and a few amps):h

i don't understand his last comment....but i will assume he ment without adding a system....i will have a perfectly fine system for what i want...more than likely you will say i am going over board on that as well.....well i really am, not even going to lie. it is above and way beyond anything i have seen on this site. no offense to anyone

This sounds pretty expensive for a kid my age and will take a long time because of the lack of mods the new trucks have. I think you would be happy with a tranny and a big ppe or efi tune until college is over.

and this is where i am most likely going to start, but i would love to get a test engine and have that run is a seperate truck...but that as of now seem smore expensive then doing it to just this truck.

if you keep the mods simple you wont break anything major i dont think. If you get a tranny and a nice big tune it doesnt seem like anything would fail. Maybe ugrade your steering and front suspension.

Been to highschool and been to college. I have pals that lived on campus and then lived in apartments off campus. Thier trucks like like someone washed it with steel wool and used a ballpeen hammer to knock the bugs off it. Thats all I'm saying. I guess you could turn into insurance every time some jackass pukes on your hood or pisses on your door handle or keys it. :rolleyes:

An alarm? Dude are you kidding me? Your young so you should know how many people get enjoyment outa setting those things off. ):h Once they figure it out you will have every Awhole with a bike or a mustang and loud pipes throwing revs at it.

You HAVE to get a new vehicle worth 30k? Cant convince your pops otherwise? Wish my dad was so stuborn that if I pleaded that he get me a beater to take to college and leave a nice vehicle at home to tinker with he wouldnt listen. Guess you could always let him buy you what ever and leave that home and do what most of us did for our transportation when younger.....work our ***** into the ground at some BS job to be able to afford the beater POS we drove every day.

I just can't comprehend any of this... money has never been that free flowing for me, so to each his own... Have a good time, because before you know it, you will have these things called responsibilities... That is unless you aspire to be a 33 year old divorced father of none... like myself... lol

90h7 there is nothing wrong with having big dreams just remember some dreams turn to nightmares. If you learn anything from this post it is that your not the only one that has had this dream. Good luck with whatever you deside to do.

10's aren't that easy, been there tried that in F bodies and vettes, let alone in a duramax. Goto the track and check out just how fast a 10 sec ride is!

Glad I got you turned on to PPE, they are geared toward racing, except, the people are right about EFI live. I heard its the best from everyone. PPE does have things you need, like the dual fueler, and the turbo. Remember, garrett GT40R. I told you, you'd probably need to spend 150k on a 2007 to get into the 10s.

wow 150k is all i need. ):h