: How Good an OIL FILTER do you NEED?
captainmal 07-12-2004, 11:35 PM Talked with Cummins last year. They told me to use the Fleetguard LF3972. That's what I've been using.
Called Geno's to order a 4/2/1 kit. The guy there told me they were only selling the LF16035 filters (think that's the number and hope I got things right) because they are Stratapore. They also cost about $5 more per filter. I ordered for convenience sake.
Stratapore is a name applied to some greater filtration feature. I read things about it that seem very applicable to FUEL FILTERS. That's where you really need good filtration. But an oil filter? Keep out any chunks of metal, don't collapse and let the oil pass through. That's all I see oil filters doing. I own many old motorcycles and other engines that do not even have oil filters.
How good of an oil filter do you really need?
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MABurns 07-13-2004, 09:23 AM Filtration of the crud is important, but just as important in todays engines with more oil flow at higher pressures is a filter that can stand up to the flow. There have been a number of complaints about certain filters that have disintegrated (paper elements) and caused engine failure when they clogged up critical areas.
It is all about piece of mind, granted Fleet Guard is made by Cummins so sure they will recommend them, but a quality oil filter is as important as any other filter.
captain I purchased the exact same kit from genos and will be doing my first oil change today. 7400 miles. I read a review/test on the stratopore filters. They came out on top.
captainmal 07-13-2004, 11:36 PM I'm cheap. When I use these up it will probably be back to the LF3972's. That's what the 5083285AA filter is you get at the 'stealer' for big $$$$$$$$$$$$$ You just get it packaged in a Mopar box.
If you really like the feeling of getting screwed, buy the OEM 5015581AB fuel filter in the GENUINE Mopar box from the 'stealer'. That beauty will set you back around $44. OR.......buy the same filter numbered FS19579 in the Fleetguard box for $12-$14 from Geno's or any Cummins shop.
Kennyd740 07-14-2004, 10:13 PM I use the best ones made. Its your $5,000+ engine, you decide.
captainmal 07-15-2004, 09:35 PM I agree. The engines need protected. That's why I have only used the Fleetguard LF3972. It's recommended and essentially "made" by Cummins as Fleetguard is 'supposedly' part of their operation.
Cummins uses words that describe the Stratapore filters as an "upgrade". They are still Fleetguard products. I would be certain you don't 'need 'it but need and want are different words.
Of course I both want and 'need' a new boat.Edited by: captainmal
Here's what Cummins says about the Stratapore....
Optional synthetic media filter traps the smallest dirt particles, including the 5-15 micron size that causes the most damage. Microglass media provides:
* Improved efficiency without loss of capacity
* Improved start-up protection
* Increased engine durability
* Superior structural integrity
deezlwex 07-20-2004, 08:08 PM So, who makes the Mopar filters?
Fleetgaurd as far as I know. I think captainmal said that earlier.
Scott...
It was a pleasure getting together with you this weekend. Man you gotta let loose on some mods... let me know if you need some extra hands.
I also met Maverick a few weeks ago... Dmax guy that runs a big rig OTR. Got a chance to ride in a Freightliner and feel an Eaton Fuller autoshift do its thing.
Kennyd740 07-20-2004, 08:16 PM Dont know who makes Mopar. I did get a letter from Dodge back in 91 or 92 telling me NOT to use Fram filters. It stated they were having trouble with the engine sucking the guts out of them. Fleetguard are good filters at a decent price. Hastings is one of the best I've seen, very well built. I use Amsoil filters.They're expensive but they are supposed to be good ones. We use Wix filters at work on all the engines.
deezlwex 07-20-2004, 08:29 PM "Scott...
It was a pleasure getting together with you this weekend. Man you gotta let loose on some mods... let me know if you need some extra hands."
Mike, likewise, I had a good time. And hey, I have gauges - they're mods, right? Exhaust is next, and I'm still trying to decide single or duals, muffler or mufflerless.
gbcop 07-21-2004, 06:14 AM I only use Wix oil filter's. It'll be pretty hard to convience me of a better oil filter out there. That an I change my oil and filter every 3,000 miles. What's your engine worth to you??
captainmal 07-21-2004, 10:37 PM gbcop,
Fleetguard products is what Cummins recommends. Doubt if Wix ones are better but if they work that's great.
3,000 miles is too much oil changing for me. There would be many times I could not make a single delivery and get back on an oil change. Following that schedule I might be changing oil more than once a week.
Around 8,000 miles I usually need 3/4ths of a quart. That's about when I change.
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