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: Where to put blue lights on a 02


lscc
11-06-2006, 04:41 PM
I would like to put some blue lights on my truck to help with response time to the fire house and I was wondering where others had put them? Behind the grill was my first thought but in the winter they would be covered. I am looking for suggestions on placement and which lights. Thanks

tmg115
11-06-2006, 05:09 PM
i got my LED's on my ranch hand and on my tool box.

Tom S.
11-06-2006, 05:38 PM
I would like to put some blue lights on my truck to help with response time to the fire house and I was wondering where others had put them? Behind the grill was my first thought but in the winter they would be covered. I am looking for suggestions on placement and which lights. Thanks

You might want to check with law enforcement first. Most states only allow blue lights on police vehicles - not fire vehicles.

mad
11-06-2006, 06:30 PM
You might want to check with law enforcement first. Most states only allow blue lights on police vehicles - not fire vehicles.

:exactly: !!! Fire vehicles usually display RED lights. Blue would surely get you arrested here in Florida...by me. :)

tmg115
11-06-2006, 08:44 PM
Usally up north blue is fire. like virgina i think. but i could be 100% wrong

Brayden
11-06-2006, 08:51 PM
All the Indiana Volunteer boys have blue lights and wig wags..

lscc
11-06-2006, 09:26 PM
We run blue lights on our vehilcles in order to get to the fire house the fire trucks all have red on them.

Diesel Dually
11-06-2006, 09:49 PM
Get a push bar/grill guard and mount them there. Galls and AW direct have LEDs you can put in the headlight housings.

Where from?

mpjman
11-06-2006, 10:08 PM
I put a slim liner led over the mirror in front and secured to cieling in rear by roof in window. Check my garage for location. Lights were alos very inexpensive

Cougar281
11-06-2006, 11:06 PM
I had a Code3 lightbar on my roof when I was a VF in NY. If I ever join a FD here, I may look into an LED lightbar.

Unit453
11-06-2006, 11:25 PM
Fellas, every state has different laws regarding lighting for emergency vehicles.

Some volleys use red, some use amber, and some use blue...It all depends on the states interpretation of whats an "emergency light".

Federal D.O.T. guidlines say that police use a combination of red and blue but each state can adopt their own.

Here, police can now start to use blue in the rear only. The vollunteer firemen use blue and you're not required to yield to them at all. Its a courtesy if anything. Its only a matter of time before they lose them, because its in the works.

The_Durm
11-06-2006, 11:56 PM
i'd try inside the back window along the top.

philtopgun
11-07-2006, 01:28 AM
Same in Texas. Emergency response is red. Police is red n blue. Ive seen slick top copers with led lights on the visors. They were very bright also

hemisareslow
11-07-2006, 01:40 AM
Fellas, every state has different laws regarding lighting for emergency vehicles.

Some volleys use red, some use amber, and some use blue...It all depends on the states interpretation of whats an "emergency light".

Federal D.O.T. guidlines say that police use a combination of red and blue but each state can adopt their own.

Here, police can now start to use blue in the rear only. The vollunteer firemen use blue and you're not required to yield to them at all. Its a courtesy if anything. Its only a matter of time before they lose them, because its in the works.

Forgive the off topic post....but :wtf1: who in their right mind would want to take away something from a voulenteer firefighter...that could potentially allow them to get to the station sooner...and thus have a better chance at stopping a fire and saving lives?? Some people in legislatgue need to get their heads out of their arses...

hemisareslow
11-07-2006, 01:41 AM
getting back on topic....try looking into blue strobes for inside your headlights...i believe you can get a decent hide-astrobe kit that has tinted bulbs...could be wrong though

Tom S.
11-07-2006, 06:11 AM
Fellas, every state has different laws regarding lighting for emergency vehicles.

Some volleys use red, some use amber, and some use blue...It all depends on the states interpretation of whats an "emergency light".

Federal D.O.T. guidlines say that police use a combination of red and blue but each state can adopt their own.

Here, police can now start to use blue in the rear only. The vollunteer firemen use blue and you're not required to yield to them at all. Its a courtesy if anything. Its only a matter of time before they lose them, because its in the works.

That's why I said to check with law enforcement first. I can only speak for Michigan, where they are illegal. :)

lscc
11-07-2006, 08:23 AM
I am a volunteer firefighter in IL. We are allowed to use the blue lights to get to the fire house. They are just a courtesy lights but the citizens of our town will stop in order to let you get out of your drive, go first at a stop sign, or even pull over to let you go around. I have been doing this for several years now and have not needed the blue lights but some recent construction on my street has made it very hard to get out of the driveway thus the need for the lights.

Does anyone have the strobes that are drilled into the trucks existing lights?
How bright are they?
Which lights did you drill them into?

tmg115
11-07-2006, 11:25 AM
Forgive the off topic post....but :wtf1: who in their right mind would want to take away something from a voulenteer firefighter...that could potentially allow them to get to the station sooner...and thus have a better chance at stopping a fire and saving lives?? Some people in legislatgue need to get their heads out of their arses...

I couldnt agree more.


And another off topic but the police need to learn how to use theres more. it drives me crazy seeing a cop drive like an *** with out his lights on. they are there for a reason USE THEM!

tmg115
11-07-2006, 11:27 AM
:exactly: !!! Fire vehicles usually display RED lights. Blue would surely get you arrested here in Florida...by me. :)

So you would arrest a vol Fire fighter for using the wrong collored light who is trying to get some where faster to save a life? that is jacked up but hey what ever floats your boat.

Unit453
11-07-2006, 11:57 AM
Forgive the off topic post....but :wtf1: who in their right mind would want to take away something from a voulenteer firefighter...that could potentially allow them to get to the station sooner...and thus have a better chance at stopping a fire and saving lives?? Some people in legislatgue need to get their heads out of their arses...

Mike, here blue lights pretty much mean nothing. Yielding to them is a mere "courtesy" and is not required by law. Laws are changing as we speak. Volley firemen are not allowed to speed, blow intersections, use a siren or any of that. Its kinda dumb if you ask me but thats the way it is. So, pretty much, there's no reason why they should get to the station faster than without it. If you want my opinion, they should give them red, send them through a 40 hour EVOC course and let them handle their business. Then restrict the use of blue or a combination of red/blue to police, which is whats happening.


I couldnt agree more.


And another off topic but the police need to learn how to use theres more. it drives me crazy seeing a cop drive like an *** with out his lights on. they are there for a reason USE THEM!

They are there for a reason but some responses do not require the use of lights and sirens. Sometimes you can make better time just layin down the hammer. I cant speak of every agency but there are certainly idiots out there in every profession.

So you would arrest a vol Fire fighter for using the wrong collored light who is trying to get some where faster to save a life? that is jacked up but hey what ever floats your boat.

Thats not really jacked up. Impersonating police is usually a heafty fine in most states that I know of. You cant just throw a red or blue light on your roof and run it down the road. These laws were designed for a reason. Thats why these states require permits and special EVOC courses to learn just how to drive and emergency vehicle in an emercency situation.

I would not mess with a vollunteer personally. I've seen many haulin balls knowing that they're not really allowed. Ive seen a few runnin in excess of 15 over posted limits. Did I mess with them? No.....Now, you blow an intersection at 80 mph with your pretty little blue light on and you and I now got a problem. The first ear full is going to be the chief about one of his people, because usually, he is the one who signs off on the permit to run the light to begin with. And he can yank it just as easily.

Now, to stay on topic...

Take a look at LED lighting. Its pretty much what strobes were 10 years ago with twice the warning power. I would avoid drilling any holes if you dont have to. You gotta look at what type of response are you doing...Are you blocking off a main roadway during an incident? If so then the most warning power you can get, the better. You'd probably want something with 360 visibility in that case. If all you're doing is running from the house to the station, get one of those dash, mirror or visor mount suction cup deals. Place it up high like above the rear view mirror. If you will be responding to scenes, consider getting some type of amber directional or "arrow stick". Rear warning is the most imporntant while out on a scene, no question about it. You, nor your cronies want to get blasted by an oblivious driver who "didnt see you". Those arrow sticks come in long stips and you can pretty much build them however you want. What I'd do is keep the very outter lights blue and have all the inside lights amber on an arrow stick. They usually come with in cab controllers so you can change direction or flash pattern or intensity whenever you want. Check out Galls.com for stuff like that. They usually have good prices but rest assured, they'll get your order wrong. Grill lights always look pretty good too.

Diesel Dually
11-07-2006, 12:13 PM
I had a Code 3 MX7000 when I was a VF in NY too...Then I had a Code 3 LP mini bar and Strobed the headlights and tails...and did some trick 'intersections' on the pushbar.As for the vols losing their Blues...the will find a way to get red, Unit...remember they are still pretty powerful politically. One of the main reasons Long Island will not be paid in my lifetime, and I had to leave NY for greener pastures in Colorado.

minisub
11-07-2006, 12:16 PM
For the same reason Dominos dropped their 30 minute delivery guarantee, many volunteers I know choose not to run a light at all - just makes them a target for insurance scammers willing to risk life and property on a big score at your expense...

tmg115
11-07-2006, 12:26 PM
Thats not really jacked up. Impersonating police is usually a heafty fine in most states that I know of. You cant just throw a red or blue light on your roof and run it down the road. These laws were designed for a reason. Thats why these states require permits and special EVOC courses to learn just how to drive and emergency vehicle in an emercency situation.


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I agree about not driving like an idiot. im just talking about the wrong colored light. every emergency vehicle needs use use caution and good judgement.

but anyways back on topic i would look at GEN III LED's these things are bright. i realy like the whelen Tir 6's.

UnderPSIDisplays
11-07-2006, 01:04 PM
Does anyone have the strobes that are drilled into the trucks existing lights?
How bright are they?
Which lights did you drill them into?

Yes, Very Bright, Daytime running lights in front, Reverse lights in rear. Whelen Hide-a-way strobe kit 90watt power supply. You can get the strobes in any color. Check e-bay if you don't have a local dealer usually for a 4 strobe kit it is around $200

lscc
11-07-2006, 03:20 PM
PSI

How do you seal them after the install so they do not get any moisture in them?

Diesel Dually
11-07-2006, 03:29 PM
Silicone them.

UnderPSIDisplays
11-07-2006, 09:02 PM
I just used the foam gaskets that came with them and I have never had any problems. I suppose you could silicone them if you got moisture. But for me it hasn't been an issue.

Unit453
11-07-2006, 11:25 PM
I personally wouldnt drill anything, but thats just me. They have some great LED minibars on the market now.

MX7000's are good lightbars. To me, they look better in blue than red. Not that noisy and without the speaker housing in the center, a 5th light, makes a great warning product. Ours all have rear arrow sticks built in which I like. You can pretty much build these things now to suit your needs. The entire lower deck can be used for additional halogen flashers or take downs or whatever you want.

Sad thing is, the "old" rotator bars are becoming obsolete.

Diesel Dually
11-08-2006, 02:34 AM
My MX7000, a Code 3 Force 4 XL, and 2 Federal Aerodynics are going in my bar when I build it...a fitting retirement for them all.

lscc
11-08-2006, 08:00 AM
Several guys have the old code 3's they will look nice on your truck

tmg115
11-08-2006, 06:40 PM
this looks like a good light bar for not that much cash. i have never seen one but it looks pretty bright in the movie

http://www.viperlightbars.com/

2X4
11-08-2006, 10:31 PM
I bought a Cop Stick LED Interior Lightbar. Not bad at all.
These guys are pretty well known in the Vol. Fire industry.
http://www.nwpublicsafetysupply.com