You guys think there will be mods for the LMM like they have for the diesels in the past? Im holding out for a LMM but the only reason i want a diesel is to mod it. If you cant get any programmers or anything that will boost the hp and tq up a ton, then i will stick to a gasser. What about the exhaust, wil they make a after market exhaust for them?

You guys think there will be mods for the LMM like they have for the diesels in the past? Im holding out for a LMM but the only reason i want a diesel is to mod it. If you cant get any programmers or anything that will boost the hp and tq up a ton, then i will stick to a gasser. What about the exhaust, wil they make a after market exhaust for them?

I doubt we'll see a legal aftermarket exhaust given the new DPF is part of the entire exhaust design. Maybe we'll see a combined CC/DPF "test pipe".

I'm sure we'll see programmers and other mods. It'll just be a matter of time.

Is the exhuast what cuts out most of the emmisions on the new diesels?

I think the first exhaust available for the LMM will probably be an after-DPF kit. It'll probably be made by MBRP, too since they're so well at getting exhausts for new diesels to market first. Magnaflow won't be too far behind, I hope.

Scott

As long as there are diesel finatics out there like us, then there will always be aftermarket power boosters for diesels including the new LMM.

Ford and Dodge have to meet new emmissions requirements as well as GM. So, of course there will be aftermarket performance parts for newer diesels such as the LMM's as well. Even though they get a DPF, that still wont limit the performance possibilites out there for these new trucks.

Trust me in saying this, there are SOOOOOOO many incredibly talented and smart diesel guys out there that will find tons of ways to increase higher power levels out of that LMM Duramax.


It just might take a little while, but there will definately be performance programmers and such things if a 12 second LMM Duramax is the way you want to go.;)

thats what i want is a truck that will run 12's. I had a Camaro SS and sold it on plans for a diesel. I think its alot more cooler having a big *** truck run 12's then a sports car running 10's.

If you want to rod a diesel, then I would get a used one, or one without all that new polution crap on it. It is just going to be way more expensive to mod it up, because when you take all the crap that reduces the power, you will have to spend another small fortune on the stuff to keep the computer happy. By a low mileage LB7 or LLY and save yourself the money and aggravation of having to do all those mods. Besides, you are going to void your warranty on it, so you might as well have one that is tried and true and that has cheaper go fast goodies.

No matter what truck you get, you will spend a lot of money to get it into the 12's. :ro)

You are going to have to wait sometime before you will get an LMM in the 12's. It will be too new and with all the emissions items on the truck it will take some work and some cash. You do best to get an LLY or LB7 and then think about 12's. Can be done alot easier. You will have your work cut out for you if you do this but I am sure it will all be worth it in the end.

thats what i want is a truck that will run 12's. I had a Camaro SS and sold it on plans for a diesel. I think its alot more cooler having a big *** truck run 12's then a sports car running 10's.


Wow, you had a Camaro that ran 10's ???
What year camaro was it? Thats frikken Awesome!!!
:ro)

I have a 1971 Chevelle SS that runs 11's, and I cant even imagine driving something quicker than that.
WOW!

:grd:

GMC2500HD is right. You will have to wait some time before they make aftermarket items for the new LMM Duramax in the new body stlye 07 trucks.
New motors always have to go through different stages of development for aftermarket items before they are ready to sell to the public.

If you want a 12 second Duramax like "right now" then you might be better off getting an older duramax and putting on a really agressive programmer with other mods...

However, if you like the new beefy 2007 body style and the new interiors, then it just may be worth the wait for you.

Either way, I have seen many 12 second duramax's at the race tracks out here and lemme tell ya, they really beat the crap outa them Furd power jokes and Dodges. Even the Stupid little rice burners dont stand a chance against the Duramax trucks!
:cool2:

Wow, you had a Camaro that ran 10's ???
What year camaro was it? Thats frikken Awesome!!!
:ro)

I have a 1971 Chevelle SS that runs 11's, and I cant even imagine driving something quicker than that.
WOW!

:grd:

Nice 68 ss , Ive got a 69 Hugger orange w/4'' cowl 468BBC with a ZEX perimeter plate system its good for easy tens too.

How much you think think a 07.5 CC SB dirtymax will sticker for?

52k

$52759.85):h

How much you think think a 07.5 CC SB dirtymax will sticker for?



$3000 more than the curent LBZ.


Most SLT 2006 LBZ trucks are stickered at around $45,000.


So, basically consider the new 2007 LMM' to be around $48,000 or so depending on options and extra features you get.

52k



52K is about right for the fully equiped LMM Top of the line Truck with ALL the options and features.

Such as the BUilt in Touch-screen Navigation system, the Full entertainment package with built in DVD player and TV moniters in the headrests, The Power rear window, Built in SUnroof, and probably even a built in maid to cook you dinner and massage your feet.:D

Nice 68 ss , Ive got a 69 Hugger orange w/4'' cowl 468BBC with a ZEX perimeter plate system its good for easy tens too.


WOw man that sounds awesome!
My 71 Chevelle SS has a 4" cowl hood too.

I just painted it Viper Pearl Metallic candy blue...It looks amazing!
I've had many many blue cars and trucks and this blue I just painted my Chevelle SS is QUite possibly the best looking blue Ive seen yet.

Your camaro with the 468 BB must be incredible. A definate rice-burner killer I bet, just like all the Hot-rodded Duramaxs!!!:ro)


Do you have any pictures you can post of the 69 camaro?

I paid right at invoice price but I think my sticker was just a hair under $49K?
So I'd say the new stickers will be about $52K, you get the truck for free :ro)

Option A:
your going to go broke trying to get a 12 second lmm, 52000 for the truck + i dont know 8000 for all of the crap, your going to be around 60k to have a 12-13 second lmm, IF and thats a big IF, you can even bypass some of the stuff, and how long is it going to take to do that? Too much speculation, your going to spend $$$$$$$$,
Option B:
take that same 60k: 02 LB7 low miles nice shape -26000, lots of mods and labor -10000, means you still have 24k to spend on toys, like a boat or some 4 wheelers and a jet ski.
Ill take option B any day.

Option A:
your going to go broke trying to get a 12 second lmm, 52000 for the truck + i dont know 8000 for all of the crap, your going to be around 60k to have a 12-13 second lmm, IF and thats a big IF, you can even bypass some of the stuff, and how long is it going to take to do that? Too much speculation, your going to spend $$$$$$$$,
Option B:
take that same 60k: 02 LB7 low miles nice shape -26000, lots of mods and labor -10000, means you still have 24k to spend on toys, like a boat or some 4 wheelers and a jet ski.
Ill take option B any day.


HAHA!):h

Are you kidding me sam???
YEah it may sticker at 52k, but No one ever pays sticker price for a truck.
If you do , you are a complete idiot.

My buddy picked up a 2006 LBZ duramax SLT top of the line truck with all the options that was stickered at $49K for $42,000 out the door...:ro)

There is now way you are paying $52K for a new LMM, unless you are a complete idiot and dont know how to negotiate.):h

If you can get a LBZ for 42K out the door, then chances are, the new LMM's will go for around $45K or so.

I would definately pay the extra amount for that bit-chen new 2007 body style and all the better features!!!

excuse me, ok, you will have 14 thousand left for toys!!!!!!! and the LB7 will look better and whoop up on that ugly a$$ 07.5 LMM!!

excuse me, ok, you will have 14 thousand left for toys!!!!!!! and the LB7 will look better and whoop up on that ugly a$$ 07.5 LMM!!



Haha.

DOnt get so mad sam.

We all know that the new 07s definately arent ugly, Definately beefier than the 06's if anything.

The new 2007s Look frikken AWESOME!!!


Here Sam...:chillpill

im not mad, if i were mad i wouldnt re post, some anger issues i have tried, i think the 07.5 are ugly, sorry if im the only one, 01-02 chevs are the best looking and running trucks on the road.

YEah it may sticker at 52k, but No one ever pays sticker price for a truck.
If you do , you are a complete idiot.

I would definately pay the extra amount for that bit-chen new 2007 body style and all the better features!!!



:exactly:

Im not too sure about the 2007 Chevy HD trucks, but the 2007 GMC's look SOOOO Awesome!

I love that HUGE Grille.

That GMC looks like it can swallow a stupid lil Honda Riceburner whole in 1 bite! LOL
:ro)


I cant wait to get my 07!:D




http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8869/0720sierrahd12we6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

that looks pretty good, WAAAAAAYYYY better than the chevy grille.

that looks pretty good, WAAAAAAYYYY better than the chevy grille.


I agree with you on that for sure.
:beerchug:

The New GMC looks much better than the new Chevy.

It would look better with a big ass billet grille.

It would look better with a big ass billet grille.



:iamwithst

The new 2007 GMC will look So Bichin with a big ass Billet grille!

Haha.

DOnt get so mad sam.

We all know that the new 07s definately arent ugly, Definately beefier than the 06's if anything.

The new 2007s Look frikken AWESOME!!!


Here Sam...:chillpill

I agree DieselExpert. At first I didn't like the long grill of the GMC 2500HD, but the more I look at it, the more I like it!!

Pete

I have been at SEMA this week and saw first hand an aftermarket CAT back exhaust on a 07, 6.7L Cummins(freakin new emissions junk is the same length as the cab-:t ). It was in the Bully Dog booth and they said they are currently working on programming for it. This came directly from Michael Klaussen's (the owner) mouth when we talked. He said they will also have programming out for the 6.4L Ford and the new Duramax after the 07 emissions hit. Just repeating what I heard at the show.

I think not on anyone working on programming for any of the OEMS. Many of them are still getting their cals right, much less anyone playing with them. Most of them have been working on cals for at least three years with TONS of engineers and people think these small two engineer shops are going to come out with something soon---Right.....It is going to take some time. Remember all the new trucks use the cal to control the DPF filter---too much fuel--not enough--junk filter.. Buy any programmer within a year from now and you should just throw the DPF filter away..

:iamwithst

The new 2007 GMC will look So Bichin with a big ass Billet grille!

Its about flippin time someone said that! I agree with the statement, BTW. I think the GMC pretty much needs a nice billett grille to look even better than it already does. Same goes for the Chevy.

Scott

Heres a photo that perfromance posted in another forum section.
He took some pictures from SEMA for us all to see.

Here is a 2007 GMC with a billet grille!:ro)
:cool2:


This is only a 1500 truck with a smaller frille than the HD's of course, but at least this gives us a slight idea of how Awesome the 2007 HD GMC's will look.


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5503/dsc00798hd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


He said that this GMC truck only has a 4 inch lift with 35 inch tires.:ro)


I cant wait to see an HD GMC 2007 with a 9-11" CST lift on 38 inch tires or 40's!!!:rolleyes: :D ;)

I think not on anyone working on programming for any of the OEMS. Many of them are still getting their cals right, much less anyone playing with them. Most of them have been working on cals for at least three years with TONS of engineers and people think these small two engineer shops are going to come out with something soon---Right.....It is going to take some time. Remember all the new trucks use the cal to control the DPF filter---too much fuel--not enough--junk filter.. Buy any programmer within a year from now and you should just throw the DPF filter away..
I guarantee you're wrong. Diesel trucks are more popular than ever, meaning a bigger market than ever, and it still really hasn't hit its peak. It would make no sense for mfr's to stop now.

Catalytic converters didn't kill the performance aftermarket, OBD II didn't, & this won't either. Yes, it may be trickier to get performance & may be more work, but that's what aftermarket companies pay their engineers for. Nothing's impossible, whether we see ways of by-passing the DPF to new high-performance DPF's, they aren't the end of the world.

I guarantee you're wrong. Diesel trucks are more popular than ever, meaning a bigger market than ever, and it still really hasn't hit its peak. It would make no sense for mfr's to stop now.

Catalytic converters didn't kill the performance aftermarket, OBD II didn't, & this won't either. Yes, it may be trickier to get performance & may be more work, but that's what aftermarket companies pay their engineers for. Nothing's impossible, whether we see ways of by-passing the DPF to new high-performance DPF's, they aren't the end of the world.




Very Well said Diesel speed!

:thumb:

Imagine that truck in the picture with a duramax allison and a little Efi Live tuning. I can see the black smoke rolling out of the stacks in the bed already. Sweet.

Now who is good at picture editing?

Very Well said Diesel speed!

:thumb:
:thankyou2

This thread will need to be revisited with the HDs hitting the streets soon.

For the people questioning aftermarket parts for the LMM, just remember... if they build it... we will mod!

The stock tranny will probably be pushed to the limit before we know it. Then that will be replaced along with a new converter and the other usually mods. There is always a way to play nice with the emmissions equipment.

This thread will need to be revisited with the HDs hitting the streets soon.

For the people questioning aftermarket parts for the LMM, just remember... if they build it... we will mod!

The stock tranny will probably be pushed to the limit before we know it. Then that will be replaced along with a new converter and the other usually mods. There is always a way to play nice with the emmissions equipment.



:exactly:... :agreed: ... :grd:

You are right I just hope Banks and Rbp don't stop with the Lbzs just sold mine to buy a new LMM but I'll tell you this I loved my lbz with the exaust only I only sold it to get the new look cause I don't know about all the new emm. crap hope they find a way around it. :rockit: This thread will need to be revisited with the HDs hitting the streets soon.

For the people questioning aftermarket parts for the LMM, just remember... if they build it... we will mod!

The stock tranny will probably be pushed to the limit before we know it. Then that will be replaced along with a new converter and the other usually mods. There is always a way to play nice with the emmissions equipment.

Out the door for my 150miles on the od LT1 cc 4x LBZ $35k including taxes and plates way lower than the sticker 0f 46k and change. I do not have a nav system but if you count the garmin $499 on the dash and the dvd $250 w/ 2 tv's that are strap on headrest still a lot cheaper then 50k with these parts installed by the factory

I am planning on getting the new 2012 2500XHD quad turbo Duramaximum with the 50 valve V-10. Does anyone know where I can get a tuner for that?