: Brake upgrades-thoughts
blizzardplowman 07-05-2004, 03:20 PM Just checked the pads/rotors on my 01 2500HD and found that its time for replacement. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif Has anyone did a aftermarket upgrade, Praise dyno brake, EBC, Stillen or are the oems fine. I pull a trailer a lot and any addition to brake power is a plus.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif Thanks in advance for your input.
Marty
gardnerteam 07-06-2004, 12:18 AM I am a huge fan and user of Praise Dyno brake systems on my trucks and my classics. Super product that actually stops the vehicle as advertised. I have a set for my D/A, but haven't used up the stockers so have been too lazy to replace.
a64pilot 07-07-2004, 08:29 AM How many miles before they wore out?
blizzardplowman 07-07-2004, 09:37 AM 47K They are about 3/4 gone, but my breaking power is down, so I checked and the roters are glazed and the pads are just off the squeal. If one must replace one must upgrade!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif I am looking at the Praise Dyno system- $845 for the pkg- looks like the best setup for towing that I can find other than a big brake kit and the $ on those is to far out me- 1175 and up for just the front!
Blue Max 07-07-2004, 10:28 AM Just never slow down and the brakes will last forever. Hammer Downhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif
gslam88 07-07-2004, 09:25 PM Guys,
Keep in mind that ususally it's a split of 80 % -20% on breaking.. 80% up front and 20% in the rear. I just changed fronts and rears this week... and it was a good thing.. right front pad was almost down to the back plate... very very very little meat left on the break.. and the rear drums were hard glazed and shot too....
With the weight that you carry it does not take much to glaze your brakes ... so look before you leap.. if those $845 brakes glaze what are you left with ... at least at the oem cost its only a couple hundred dollars or so.... or at least the cost I just paid for front pads and rear shoes and drums was $300 with labor. .. could be different pricing else where
Pete
blizzardplowman 07-07-2004, 10:29 PM FYI_ checked with the dealer, 930.00 for rotors and pads + 340. for install, http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gifabout chit my pants. I am ordering the set up from Praise Dyno- 845.00 and 38% more braking power.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif I'll let you know how they work out, should have late next week.
Chevyfreek 07-08-2004, 08:59 AM Is that the delivered price? The reason I ask is that I am looking to change the brakes on my 01' 2500HD (6.0L though)within the next 15-20,000mi or so. Just looking into some different options. I have looked at powerslot rotors and hawk brake pads and that will run me around $600.00 delivered. It sounds like the Praise Dyno setup may be even better, so I look forward to hearing your results.
Anyone installed new brakes themselves on these trucks? Is it a big pain in the rear or can it be done without to many issues?
Thanks...
gslam88 07-08-2004, 09:05 AM Blizzard,
Are you saying a brake job for you truck could be almost $1300 or more... depending on what rotors or drums need to be turned??
If that is true... I am glad I save $1,000 doing it ..... WOW ....!!!!!!
I also just looked at the website ... for the Praise Dyno... it says
Praise Dyno Brake's NEW STAGE-III COMBO SET has up to 38% higher friction than standard O.E.M. brakes
It does not say it will stop 38% better sound like a marketing line... they might be better than oem... but find an independent test and see what they find for the cost difference
Pete
Edited by: gslam88
snoman 07-08-2004, 08:01 PM Guys,
Keep in mind that ususally it's a split of 80 % -20% on breaking.. 80% up front and 20% in the rear.
Pete
I think this it a little off here. In a heavy truck empty maybe 65/35 to 60/40 and when loaded in a 3/4 or one ton it could exceed the front force. During the winter I carry a heavy 8 foot fisher and up to 3000 lbs of salt or more at time and a minimum of about 1000lbs or ballast and salt in a 2000 K3500 SRW and I have no braking problems at all and one time I even had to set it down HARD from speed fully loaded to keep from T-boning someone that pulled out in front of me and stopped. Maybe you need better trailer brakes if you have any at all.
blizzardplowman 07-08-2004, 10:22 PM 1: the dealer price was as listed, 2 front rotors, 2 rear and new pads for both ends, an 8.1 or 6.0 is less.
2: All my trailers have good brakes- I would not pull any trailer over 2k without brakes, and here in Wisconsin law is 3500lbs.
3: the truck runs a Bizzard 810 power plow (950#) in winter and a 8' Vee-box salter.
4: Of the 47k on the truck less than 5k are empty so I work my truck hard and don't fault it for needing repair, just felt that GM is Rippin my rear end a big one for parts on this one.
5: The front rotors are throw aways, the rears could be turned but they are very rusty around the edge and I wonder about the cooling when they are so cruded up and cut thinner on top of it.
I will post on the brakes after I run them for some time, everything I read says cryogenic- cooled wear longer and get rid of heat better so they only way to know is to try a set and see. 47k on OEM and we'll see how the "high performance" after market do, 47k +/- only time will tell.
Marty
snoman 07-08-2004, 10:30 PM I only metioned the trailer brakes because most trailers come with 3500 axles which have pretty wimpy brakes that are prone to fade a lot when long braking and slowly throw extra load on vehical. With 5200lb axles, you get more than just load capacity, you get a LOT better brakes too.
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