how is the edge working on the lly i have sold several but have not heard back from anyone, just curious?

Are you making any deals for members of the board?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

It working very well. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif I have one issue they are working on (seems I'm the only one with it.) Their Customer Service is outstanding!! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

Cal,





What is your issue? I have a beta unit also....only have experianced turbo bark at full throttle.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

Bark, but I'm not running the production unit.

bark here also, FULL PRODUCTION UNIT

Pardon my ignorance , but what is turbo bark? BTW , where is the best place to buy the Edge for the LLY?

?? trying to figure out why only a couple of people have posted and theres a lot of boxes sold and running in trucks... was hoping to hear more feedback

What is turbo bark?

Cal,





What is your issue? I have a beta unit also....only have experienced turbo bark at full throttle.http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif





My issue is rattle/knocking noise during warm-up. When up to full operating temp everything is normal. Edge tells me I'm the only one experiencing this. They are trying to come up with a fix.

Tbone , my thoughts exactly !! Everone just says "you will like it" and "worth the wait". Where is the good stuff (feedback) like 1/4 mi times , hp/trq, pulls like compared to my old LB7, runs like compared to my LB7 , whipped the shiat out of a juiced LB7 or a juiced Ford 6.0 today ?? You know "Good stuff" !! Or even the bad stuff like "well , had a LB7 whip my juiced LLY today" Anyone??? Bueler ???

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif anyone, anyone, bueler ?? hmmmm, things that make you go hmmm ?

SteveNorcal,


You are not the only one experiancing this. I've been on the phone with Rob several times over this issue. In their defense though, I have not upgraded to the latest software. I will probably do this today. I have an Edge programmer. I've been just to busy. tpitt











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My issue is rattle/knocking noise during warm-up. When up to full operating temp everything is normal. Edge tells me I'm the only one experiencing this. They are trying to come up with a fix.[/QUOTE]

Tbone , my thoughts exactly !! Everone just says "you will like it" and "worth the wait". Where is the good stuff (feedback) like 1/4 mi times , hp/trq, pulls like compared to my old LB7, runs like compared to my LB7 , whipped the shiat out of a juiced LB7 or a juiced Ford 6.0 today ?? You know "Good stuff" !! Or even the bad stuff like "well , had a LB7 whip my juiced LLY today" Anyone??? Bueler ???


14.88 (stock 17.69) with Edge on 3 on top of TTS Tow Tune.


3 seconds and rising!

SteveNorcal,


You are not the only one experiencing this. I've been on the phone with Rob several times over this issue. In their defense though, I have not upgraded to the latest software. I will probably do this today. I have an Edge programmer. I've been just to busy. tpitt














My issue is rattle/knocking noise during warm-up. When up to full operating temp everything is normal. Edge tells me I'm the only one experiencing this. They are trying to come up with a fix.


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tpitt,


Contact Aaron (Tech. Manager) at Edge. At first he said I was the only one experiencing this. I have since found one other person and now maybe you with this. Yes, try the final version and see if you still have it. All you gotta do is call and they'll send it out to you with a return shipping tag for the other!

McRat, thanks for some feedback, but isnt that slower than most LB7s with the edge and you are running 2 boxes ?!? Im not knocking your truck just asking. Did you run the Edge by itself on 125 hp and if so what was the mph? Im assuming that was stalled up alittle ..?

McRat, thanks for some feedback, but isnt that slower than most LB7s with the edge and you are running 2 boxes ?!? Im not knocking your truck just asking. Did you run the Edge by itself on 125 hp and if so what was the mph? Im assuming that was stalled up alittle ..?


I'm not sure what others are running. I'm just stacking two "light" tunes, not two hot tunes. Since I have the stock tierods, trans, and am CC LB 4x4 (7500 raceweight), I don't think it's too bad.


Look at the ET's in the Banks threads.

Got my Beta flashed to the release version Friday. Ally is still learning again since I've not driven it too much yet.


Initial thoughts are that this is a much more polished release than either of the two Betas I've run, as one would expect. Seems to have more "umph" in first gear than the second Beta. Nice and smooth on the power application and really starts pulling hard once it gets into second gear.


Not done any WOT yet, I'll wait till the Ally gets used to the program a little more and see what kind of temps I get. Sorry, but it's not been on rollers or the track so I've not got any numbers for you.


Seat of the pants says it's just incredible that they can make a four ton truck run like it does, and I've not even tried level 5 since I'm concerned about the higher output on the LLY and the stock Ally.


Anytime you get a new product released, it's bound to take some time to work the bugs out of it. That's where Edge really shines, customer service. If you do happen to have a problem, they'll get it fixed. It might take a bit to figure out what that fix is, but they'll do it. I don't think I've ever done business with a company comprised of so many great people who are committed to making their products work and satisfying their customers.


And no, I don't work for Edge. This is just my personal opinion...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Zeeb, thanks for your input, i know theres alot of us looking for good feedback and we appreciate that... are you getting any turbo bark ? and how is the power delivery, is it smooth and reliable or does it have any hiccups and such ? thanks again

No turbo bark on mine with either of the Betas. Edge thinks they've got that cured with the production release. As I said, I've not done any WOT up to fifth gear yet, but the power application comes on really smooth and the Ally is adjusting nicely. Initially it was a little cranky till it started getting the shifts adjusted. Played with it on the way home from the fire station this morning and it's really smoothed out on the first two shifts.


With the last Beta, I had a little surging on top of fourth gear just before the shift, but that could have been de-fueling since the Attitude showed a temp limit and 20% backdown. When the trans gets up to speed on the shifting, I'll try some level 4 WOT with the EGT limit disabled and see what it does.

Mine didn't bark until the Stage III Suncoast. Then I got 2 barks from 3-4 and 4-5.

I'm trying one of the production units tomorrow. The two beta boxes I have tried both produce an engine rattle between cold and warm engine. I'll know if they have it cured first thing in the morning. tpitt

I just put mine in this weekend but dont have the EGT sensor in so im not runnin it very hard only been in level 2 so far. Can someone fill me in on what Hot Juice is and if its available for the LLY and how it works exactly?

I have a strange issue with my LLY Juice. At warm up around 160 to 170 (on the attitude) my truck starts to cut out. You can really feel it as you are accelerating, like a bad plug wire or two in a gasser. The issue seems to clear itself once it reaches operating temperature. Has anyone else's box done this?


I have the unit on level 3 and have driven about 350 miles since the install. I have not tried the other levels to see if the symptoms are present. I am planning on doing this the next couple of trips.


Any thoughts??

I'm trying one of the production units tomorrow. The two beta boxes I have tried both produce an engine rattle between cold and warm engine. I'll know if they have it cured first thing in the morning. tpitt


I'll be waiting to hear of your results. Good I hope!

Can someone fill me in on what Hot Juice is and if its available for the LLY and how it works exactly?


It's just a programming change which gives you one more step of power. So it's still level 0 thru 5, but they are all bumped up. IIRC, the LB7 version went from a max HP of 125 to 145 initially with the later versions I think going to 150HP with corresponding torque increases. Those ratings are for the Attitude equipted models.


It'll kill a stock Ally and Edge has not released a Hot version for the LLY yet, but I imagine it's coming in the not too distant future. I would think it depends on what kind of feedback they get from the production release of the standard LLY box...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

SteveNorCal,


Afraid I don't have any good news. This box does the same thing. Was on the phone to Rob this morning, but he hasn't called back yet. Terry

just throwing in my .02 centavos here - i had a chance to run the new production release over the weekend, a buddy was good enough to let me try it in my ride to check it out as his tranny isnt built up yet.. Ran it all day on Saturday and Sunday and part of today so far, and.............. im not too impressed, not to slam or hate on anything, just telling it like it is and giving my opinion only - it isnt smooth on the power delivery and in my opinion is very unpredictable, got the big dog barking as well. It also seems to lack in torque unless you get really high in the RPM's.. Now granted its only been a couple of days but i can generally figure out what the tendencies are within a day of driving around with it so i figured i would share that info

Can someone tell me what is "turbo bark"?

Can someone tell me what is "turbo bark"?








When the fuel is cut back sharply, you hear/feel a "burp" coming from the motor. If I understand it correctly, there is big pressure in the intake between the turbo impeller and the cyl head, but little pressure on the turbine blades, and the turbo decelerates rapidly making a loud noise.

SteveNorCal,


Afraid I don't have any good news. This box does the same thing. Was on the phone to Rob this morning, but he hasn't called back yet. Terry





Not good. I did get a voice message today from Aaron at Edge about mine while I was out picking up my new TT. I called back, but he was gone already and left him a message.

just throwing in my .02 centavos here - i had a chance to run the new production release over the weekend, a buddy was good enough to let me try it in my ride to check it out as his tranny isnt built up yet.. Ran it all day on Saturday and Sunday and part of today so far, and.............. im not too impressed, not to slam or hate on anything, just telling it like it is and giving my opinion only - it isnt smooth on the power delivery and in my opinion is very unpredictable, got the big dog barking as well. It also seems to lack in torque unless you get really high in the RPM's.. Now granted its only been a couple of days but i can generally figure out what the tendencies are within a day of driving around with it so i figured i would share that info





IMO it may be that the Ally needs to get used to it. I know at first mine was a little flakey/rough and has since smoothed out.

SteveNorCal.


Just got a call from Aaron. Headed to Montana via Ogden, Utah. They should be able to solve the problem with my truck there. Sounds like mostly a California issue. Terry

Thanks Terry! I spoke with Aaron also. I had no doubt they would come through. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

ok...more feedback for those who want some info as it doesnt seem like too many people are talking about it - after a couple more days, it does indeed feel better as Steve mentioned, thanks steve ! It has gotten smoother all around, and the attitude is pretty sweet ! Im still not sure why it makes the turbo bark but atleast its a lot better then that dam quad box http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif

You're quite welcome Tom. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

I just installed edge juice with attitude on 04 LLY, and it isnt very smoothe. I have alot of flat spots and no aggressive take off. Am I doing something wrong? Shold I change settings? Does any one have calculated the proper setting? I am ready to send it back and not waste the money Tromplawhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

tough to say - some have had better luck than others in regards to settings, I for one couldnt get it dialed in either, regardless of what I tried...it will take a couple of days to get better as the truck needs to re-learn the new power and all, but even after that I wasnt too impressed with how she ran, the smoothness you alluded to still wasnt there after a few days - if im going to run a HP program, I want it to run smooth and feel like it was stock, just with more power, i dont want hiccups or a bad running truck, thats just not worth it IMO. Maybe these LLY's are a little tougher to dial in or everyone else just goes with it and doesnt care about the smoothness, not sure which one it is ???

I got my Edge Juice w/ ***. about a week and a half ago from cyclone (got there fast, thanks!). This past weekend I installed the egt sensor (per "hoot" method, this worked great, took about 15-20 minutes and went smoooooooth after I searched ALL OVER for a npt tap!). I've got really crappy roads out here (detroit area) so it's been hard to try to get the ally to learn anything without driving like grandpa for a while. So far I have to say my impressions are that the thing rocks. At first it didn't seem like much, but I've been running level 3 and also have it set at the most fuel (smokiest) and that helps significantly. Haven't had the chance to run it against anything but a stock gmc 2500 wt w/ a 6.0 gas. Blew that away no problemo, and I know they're no slouches. Can't wait to knock the doors off a couple of lowered hondas.


I did have some questions about the attitude monitor and what it actually does monitor? There's one on slippage, but even on level 1 it always shows some sort of slippage unless the torque converter is locked up. Is this the same on everyone elses (lb7's?).


Thanks... next up... tranny upgrade to be able to run higher settings. Also, the egt's get up to 1350 at about 65 from a dead stop on level 3, so it does defuel a little. I imagine an exhaust intake will help. Oh boy, the $$ will be flowing OUT of my pocket soon enough http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif