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DURAtotheMAX
10-18-2006, 02:11 PM
no idea...trans just started doing it for no reason. When im in tow/haul on the highway using varied throttle positions slowing down/speeding up, the TC will unlock for no reason and I really have to "play" with the throttle a lot to get it to re-lockup. If it unlocks and I hold the throttle steady, it will stay unlocked until I mess around with it a bit.

Also does it around town if Im in tow haul (I know it unlocks below ~25mph) around 45-50mph. Its kind of annoying on the highway, I was pulling up a hill with a trailer really hard (ok I just wanted to feel the power, you guys know you're guilty of it too) and I was into the pedal pretty hard, let off a bit and the engine RPM falls to idle. :wtf: I accellerate and RPM goes up again and truck accellerates, but I could tell right away by feel that the converter wasnt locked uo. I slowed down to ~55mph or so, braked, stood on my head, turned the radio to 99.1, jabbed the pedal twice, changed lanes, and it locked up again.:confused: Its done this quite a few times. IIRC its never done it in normal mode, only tow/haul. Its really annoying....trans is slightly low on fluid cause im missing my dipstick boot/seal, when hot the fluid level is a bit above the "MAX COLD" mark. Would low fluid level cause it? No MIL, no limping, I have not checked with the Tech 2 for 'soft codes' in the TCM tho.

Im back to stock tires now, could the TCM have learned soemthing with TC lockup and the 33" tires? I doubt it but you never know with that wierd confusing little box.

oh yeah, and even now with stock tires, grade braking still sucks.:mad: On my truck its totally hit or miss... maybe 4 out of 10 times it works like it should and winds the engine up to ~3600rpm or so. All the other times Im stuck coming down long hills with the trailer riding my brakes while the TCM sits there being useless. :confuzeld:

I even found a technique that makes grade braking more effective...what I do is if im at the top of a long descending hill, I slow down until I reach the "preset 5-4 downshift tow/haul" point, like 60mph or so, then I accellerate hard until it shifts back into 5th gear, then at ~80mph, I quickly let off the gas and "dip" quickly and firmly into the brake pedal ONCE and then let off the brake. Bingo. 8 out of 10 times the trans will downshift on command when I use that crazy technique.

Still waiting for EFILive to crack that goofy Allison dynamic grade braking algorithm:D

ben

Mike L.
10-18-2006, 02:36 PM
Try changing the input speed sensor on the bell housing. Call me for more info.

DURAtotheMAX
10-18-2006, 02:40 PM
ahhh the speed sensors did cross my mind, thanks Mike. Ill give you a call this afternoon, if not tomorrow.

The Neens
10-18-2006, 02:44 PM
How about a TCM reflash to uninstall any changes you made for the 33's?
If not, find the guy who installed your trans and bug him until he fixes it for you :eek:

DURAtotheMAX
10-18-2006, 03:58 PM
How about a TCM reflash to uninstall any changes you made for the 33's?
If not, find the guy who installed your trans and bug him until he fixes it for you :eek:

definetly not a problem with the builder.:D :rolleyes:

plus I have 30,000+ miles on it, I dont think he would warrantee it

dmax4u2nv
10-18-2006, 07:47 PM
definetly not a problem with the builder.:D :rolleyes:

ya youre a pro at building allis.:lol:

Dmax Tim
10-18-2006, 07:54 PM
definetly not a problem with the builder.:D :rolleyes:

plus I have 30,000+ miles on it, I dont think he would warrantee it


probably the loose nut behind the wheel.

Ben why not just lock out OD on the down hills?

Got Juice?
10-18-2006, 08:22 PM
Since y'all like to take shots at DTT, possibly you have the same problem somehow?

Mackin
10-18-2006, 08:46 PM
Since y'all like to take shots at DTT, possibly you have the same problem somehow?


Why DTT has TC lock up problems?

Got Juice?
10-18-2006, 09:58 PM
Why DTT has TC lock up problems?

):h no.

Mike L.
10-18-2006, 10:08 PM
Why DTT has TC lock up problems?

Not according to their website.:cool:

DURAtotheMAX
10-18-2006, 11:17 PM
they probably only lock up well because of the bootlegged TCM's. :stirthepo: :D

Just for S**** and giggles Ill pull the input speed sensor tomorrow, clean it off, whatever, then give you a call Mike. I did swap that sensor from the old bellhousing, maybe its not aligned "just so" or something?

Got Juice?
10-19-2006, 12:18 AM
they probably only lock up well because of the bootlegged TCM's. :stirthepo: :D

?

Shdyslexicit Disturber!):h

Bootlegged TCM's?

Who Does those?

Diesel Dragon
10-19-2006, 07:19 PM
Don't forget to add more fluid to the tranny.

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Dmax Tim
10-19-2006, 07:42 PM
Don't forget to add more fluid to the tranny.

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and a couple of handfulls of sawdust.








BTW, I'm just kidding, no really Ben

Diesel Dragon
10-19-2006, 09:55 PM
And don't forget your dipstick rubber so you stop losing your fluid all over the place :)

DD

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Mike L.
10-19-2006, 10:02 PM
And don't forget your rubber so you stop losing your fluid all over the place :)

DD

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:D

DURAtotheMAX
10-19-2006, 10:18 PM
And don't forget your dipstick rubber so you stop losing your fluid all over the place :)

DD

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:funnypost

Mike no faith in my "CUSTOM" TCM programming??):h

_nar_
10-20-2006, 12:47 AM
and a couple of handfulls of sawdust.

Friction additive?:eek:

Dmax Tim
10-20-2006, 07:56 PM
:funnypost

Mike no faith in my "CUSTOM" TCM programming??):h

u didn't drop it did u?








:joke:

DieselSpeed
10-20-2006, 08:05 PM
I read thru some of the fun on the last one - did you pull the sensor from the old bellhousing that had a surprise meeting w/ the ground?

Mike L.
10-20-2006, 10:22 PM
u didn't drop it did u?








:joke:

Was that an oops or an oh oh?:p:

Dmax Tim
10-20-2006, 10:40 PM
Was that an oops or an oh oh?:p:

1 piece is an oops :eek:

2 or more pieces is an oh oh (what's Eric's cell #) ):h

THAMAX
10-22-2006, 03:51 PM
:Nothing_f

duramaximizer
10-23-2006, 10:27 PM
duratothemax..... turn your head while I take the trash out back and thump on 'em for ya. LOL

Mike L.
10-23-2006, 10:36 PM
duratothemax..... turn your head while I take the trash out back and thump on 'em for ya. LOL

Thought for a second you were going to ask him to cough.):h

DURAtotheMAX
10-23-2006, 11:38 PM
Thought for a second you were going to ask him to cough.):h


oh man mike thats awful.-:t


:lol: ):h

duramaximizer
10-24-2006, 12:48 AM
Thought for a second you were going to ask him to cough.):h

No................what you do with sheep in your spare time is your own business.:sheephump

big truck big power
10-25-2006, 11:54 AM
Duramaximizer OWNED mike l...

Ben what do you have in your tcm is it a stock one or a sciret squrill thingy.

DieselSpeed
10-25-2006, 12:59 PM
So was it the speed sensor?

DURAtotheMAX
10-25-2006, 01:01 PM
never got a chance to check it...it kinda stopped being wierd for no reason. :confuzeld:

DieselSpeed
10-25-2006, 02:34 PM
Gotta love it when that happens... Or hate it since you don't know if/when it'll strike again. Anyway - congrats on the random success!

Mike L.
10-25-2006, 03:42 PM
No................what you do with sheep in your spare time is your own business.:sheephump

:D

Dmax Tim
10-25-2006, 05:32 PM
never got a chance to check it...it kinda stopped being wierd for no reason. :confuzeld:

I'll bet the sawdust took care of it. :ro)

did u use 1 or 2 handfulls?

ecc_33
10-25-2006, 11:50 PM
i bet ben used 2 just for safe measures@!!