I know that this is a well debated subject. Regardless of that I would like some opinions.


I currently have the stock 245 Steeltex on my 2003 2500HD. They are now 50% worn at about 23,000 miles. Today, I experiences two instances of hydroplaning when braking during heavy rain, so I think it is time to change.


I tow a 12,500 lb 5th wheel about 30% of the time, and got rid of my off-roading desires many years back. So I am looking for long life, smooth ride and good traction.


My past experience favors Michellin LTX M/S, but I know there are other makes equally as good. I would consider going up to 265's since the price differential is minimal here in Canada.


What are your views?

I have a set of Goodyear ATS with 42,000 miles on them. I am running 285's and have been satisfied.


I have used them for towing, high mileage empty, deer hunting in the snow and mud, and dragging the sled 300 ft down the track.


I realize that they are not the most aggressive tire, but they have served there purpose on my truck.

I HIGHLY recommend the Bridgestone Revos. They are rated higher then any other tire on tirerack.com I have had them for 20,000km now and I am EXTREMELY impressed. These are by far the best tire I have ever owned. They are amazing on ice, snow, mud, dry traction, and wet traction.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+A% 2FT+Revo


And they look good to top it off. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


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Ditto.......Bridgestone Revos 265's will be my next tires.

Same here, got the Revos 3000 mi ago and they're great. Only minor complaint is that they pick up and throw rocks like a sonofagun. I am slowly depositing my gravel driveway elsewhere.....but I hear the BFG A/T TA does the same thing.


Max, have you found optimum pressures yet? I'm going 60 in the front and 50 in the rear. I was trying to take depth measurements across the tire but the bottom of the tread ain't flat enough to get consistent results....all depends on where you measure...

I thought stock rims were 6" or 6.5" in width. The specs for a Revo 265-75-16 Load E call for a 7-8" rim. Wouldn't that be risky putting a larger width tire onto narrower rim? I'm assuming Railbuff is looking at the same load range as what he's got there now.

Same here, got the Revos 3000 mi ago and they're great. Only minor complaint is that they pick up and throw rocks like a sonofagun. I am slowly depositing my gravel driveway elsewhere.....but I hear the BFG A/T TA does the same thing.


Max, have you found optimum pressures yet? I'm going 60 in the front and 50 in the rear. I was trying to take depth measurements across the tire but the bottom of the tread ain't flat enough to get consistent results....all depends on where you measure...








Weird. Mine are exaclty opposite. I find that mine don't collect rocks nearly as bad as others. Must be the different size of gravel.


Edited by: Max Power

I thought stock rims were 6" or 6.5" in width. The specs for a Revo 265-75-16 Load E call for a 7-8" rim. Wouldn't that be risky putting a larger width tire onto narrower rim? I'm assuming Railbuff is looking at the same load range as what he's got there now.


Everybody does it. Some are going as big as 285/75/16 on stock rims. I've never heard of anyone having a problem.

To Max Power,


Thanks for the link. Most interesting survey. It sure does not rate the Steeltex very highly.


Appreciate you comments

Just a further question to Max Power (or others). If I change to the 265's, will I experience any physical interference problems? I do realize that I will be about 3% down in tractive effort and that the speedo cannot be compensated using the dealers Tech II. I also understand that the ABS can be corrected.


Those Revos look really good according to the survey. I wonder how they compare with the Michelin LTX M/S? Unfortunately, only the Mich LTX A/T is shown on the survey chart. Bear in mind that I only use the truck on the highway.

No other problems.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=LTX+M%2FS


I had michelin's ltx m/s for about 9,000 miles. I hated them. Terrible and i mean terrible on ice. I traded them in for the revos.

Plus they look sissy to me.


http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/michelin/mi_ltx_ms.jpg

Over the last 20 years + or - I have had nothing be BF Goodrich tires (The stock ones always seem to get taken off soon after I buy a new truck) Most of them have been the A/T`s and I have over 800,000 miles running these without a problem as of yet.


I have the BF Goodrich A?T 285/75/16" tires now and have hauled 6300# and 5800# loads of sand. These tires are not rated for this much weight but they handled the load great. I will most likely never switch to another brand tire, unless I need something that BF Goodrich does not offer.

O.K. Max Power, I ordered a set of Revos just an hour back. They should be in next week. Will let you know what I think of them.

Well Max Power, I said I would let you know what I think of the Revo's. Just had them fitted this morning, they had to bring them in from the States. Went for a short 5Km run and was immediately impressed with the quietness and firm handling.Just one point, can you recall the link to the Goodyear tire load/pressure chart? I cannot find it. Bridgestone do not seem to have one either.

Mine came stock with 245/75-16's. As I read this thread, it appears I can indeed put 285/75-16's on these rims without worry, including front end rub?

Mine came stock with 245/75-16's. As I read this thread, it appears I can indeed put 285/75-16's on these rims without worry, including front end rub?





You may require some minor trimming to prevent rub. I have the 285's on mine with torsion keys and needed to trim.

Torsion keys? Green keys? Not familiar with these terms.

I have always been a Michelin LTX M/S fan for my trucks. Never had a problem. The REVOS look interesting. I do mostly highway stuff. May consider looking into them.
ANY complaints about Bridgestone Revos. Who is the parent company?

Parent company of Bridgestone is......Bridgestone!!


This company now owns Firestone. Where is the E range Revo made, in North America, or Japan?


Here in Vermont, Nokian is a respected brand known for their superior winter tires. They make a year round truck tire too, the Vatiiva, which I am considering when the Steeltex tires give up the ghost. Nokian is a Finnish company, but many of their truck tires sold in North America are made in a Cooper plant in Ohio. A case of reverse outsourcing.

railbuff,


I run Cooper Discoverer H/T's....very good highway tire. The A/T's would be a good all-terrain, but I drive more highway. If you can't raise the $$ to buy the Revo's, Coopers are a good 2nd choice. Those Revos are awesome tires. All I hear are good things.


Tom http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Pig.gif

If Firestone is related to Bridgestone, I'll stick with Michelin.

Those 245/75/16E revos will wear out quick on these trucks. Mine have 30k of light usage and they are just about gone. No burn-outs or heavy hauling just proper inflation and frequent rotation. These tires do have great overall traction but the price is short tread life.

It looks like I will be replacing the OEM Steeltex tires before winter sets in. Those Revo's look like a very good tire. What would be another tire to use that gets good mileage out of them? I don't go off road at all and the only time I really need 4x4 is after a good snow and they haven't gotten the streets plowed yet(I live on a snow emergency route and drive one to work every day).

I wonder if larger tires will get more miles. Maybe the increase in surface area would wear a little slower. Seems like everyone is going to at least 265 's. How are the bigger tires holding up? I would think about the revo's again but in a 265 if you could get at least 50k.

I personally replaced my stock tires with BF Goodrich A/T KO's and I love them to death. Awesome on and off road traction with hardly any road noise. You can tell you roll down the road, but that's the extent of it. Not like I'm rolling with boggers or something for sure.

Just took mine in and replaced the Bridgestone 245's(165 miles on them) with the 265/75 BFG AT/KO's. Its a completely different truck, the ride and handeling is greatly improved espicially in curves and the steering now has some road feel and response to it. Anyone want a great deal on some Bridgestones?

The Bridgestone revos are made in Japan. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif I guess they are keeping my Duramax company? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif


I bought my 265's from Peerless tire and they have a 60,000 mile tread life guarantee. I have about 12,000 miles on them and they do not look like they will make it to 60k. If I had to guess I would say 37k? Good thing I have a prorated warranty. Next set will be cheap. That brings me to my question. What is the best back spacing? I know back spacing of the rim has a large effect on overall tire fit.


I am planning on buying 285/75 R16. I want to buy an after market wheel that is 8" wide, but I am not sure what the best back spacing would be. I don't want to crank my keys anymore (currently 1.5") and do as little fender trimming as possible. If I get the correct backspacing, I am sure the tires will not be a problem?


I have heard 5.5 mm but I am not sure?

My '02 came with Bridgestone Steeltex. The traction was terrible if the streets were a little damp. Hard to take off from a light without breaking loose. Hated for the wife to drive it when raining. Last month I replaced them with the Bridgestone Dueler Revos and was sort of skeptic but they are like night and day. I can accelerate pretty hard in wet conditions without breaking them loose. With the OEMs, I had to stay on my toes when pulling my 25' trailer. Not a worry now. The local dealer had them on sale 4 for price of 3. I now have 4k miles on them. Would buy them again in a minute.Edited by: Raptorrider

The Bridgestone revos are made in Japan. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif I guess they are keeping my Duramax company? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clown.gif


I bought my 265's from Peerless tire and they have a 60,000 mile tread life guarantee. I have about 12,000 miles on them and they do not look like they will make it to 60k. If I had to guess I would say 37k? Good thing I have a prorated warranty. Next set will be cheap. That brings me to my question. What is the best back spacing? I know back spacing of the rim has a large effect on overall tire fit.


I am planning on buying 285/75 R16. I want to buy an after market wheel that is 8" wide, but I am not sure what the best back spacing would be. I don't want to crank my keys anymore (currently 1.5") and do as little fender trimming as possible. If I get the correct backspacing, I am sure the tires will not be a problem?


I have heard 5.5 mm but I am not sure?








Bronco,


I have the 285/75/16 revos on Weld EVO velociti 8 inch with 4.625 back spacing. I had to raise the left .75 inch (4.5 turns of the T bars.) the right was that much higher than the left, so I left it alone. Had to trim the fender just a tad and no rmore rubbing.


If I were to do it again, I'd go with the 265's instead. While the 285's look better, you will feel a definite reduction in acceleration. Not that the truck is slow (I have the Edge w/attitude) but there is a lot more lag now with the 285's. Bottom end takeoff is a lot slower than stock. The 265's also come in laod range E versus D for the 285's.


Steve

Well, I bought a set of 265 Bridgestone Revo'sfor my '03. They are just great compared with the old Firestone Steeltex. My only gripe is with Bridgestone technical dept. I have e-mailed them three times requesting a load/inflation pressure table. The only answer I can get out of them is to use the vehicle manufacturers recommended pressure. I cannot get it into their heads, that different loads require different pressures. To run an empty truck on tyres inflated to the manufacturers recommended pressure is downright dangerous. Bridgestone used to have such a table on their website, but it now seems to have disappeared.


Does anyone have a link to such a table?