Banks has recently developed an all-out performance calibration for the Six-Gun Diesel Tuner. The fuel tables have been enhanced to deliver better acceleration characteristics than the initial release of the Six-Gun, while preserving the all-out power gains under full load. The new “Race” calibration will respond better under acceleration dyno tests and in 0-60 and quarter mile tests.

We recently ran a 2001 2wd dually automatic in a series of ¼ mile drag race tests. The truck was equipped with a stock exhaust, stock air filter and stock transmission. The test included runs with an Edge Juice with Attitude display (Edge does not recommend the use of their Hot file without transmission modifications), Bullydog Dyno Dominator, TST Power Max, Van Aaken Smart Box, and the Six-Gun with Speed-Loader. Testing was conducted at a speedway facility. Timing was done with a Stalker radar gun with timing software. A minimum of three runs in each configuration were made to ensure consistency; any runs that were more than a couple of tenths out of range were thrown out and rerun. The vehicle was launched from idle, no torque braking was done, again for the sake of consistency. Anytime that torque braking was done, wheel spin was an issue. The same driver performed all the tests.

Here are the best times that we observed with each unit, along with some comments about each:

Stock (no tuner)
¼ mile: 17.89 @ 80.5 mph
0-10 mph: 1.28 sec
0-40 mph: 5.70 sec
0-60 mph: 10.18 sec

<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Edge Juice</H1>
¼ mile: 15.94 @ 90.7 mph (10.9% better time, 12.7% better speed)
0-10 mph: 1.47 sec (14.8% worse)
0-40 mph: 4.35 sec (23.7% better)
0-60 mph: 7.33 sec (28.0% better)
Runs were made on Level 5. We attempted to run the truck with the 4-5 shif

What kind of dyno #'s?

We have some dyno testing for the new calibration scheduled to happen in the next couple of weeks. Best gains under load testing should remain about the same, but peak-to-peak data is expected to improve. We also will test under acceleration conditions for comparison purposes. A couple of our dealers that participate on this site are also planning their own independent dyno tests (acceleration), and I expect that they will be posting their results as well.

Thanks Peter. While you were there, did you use the same truck for every run? Can you list the truck (ex, #1), which program and what time of day each program was run?


Thanks,


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The same truck was used for all the runs testing any Duramax product. It is a 2001 extended cab 2wd dually, automatic trans. It was completely stock for this test with the exception of each tuner being tested. All the devices tested were tested at their highest available setting. Testing began at about 10:00 am and lasted until about 5:00 pm. Weather readings were taken at ½ hour intervals, temperature stayed around 78 degrees all day, barometric pressure was 28.77 in/hg, and relative humidity drifted between 45 and 48%. A slight tailwind picked up in the afternoon at up to about 10 mph. About 50 runs were accumulated on the Duramax during the course of the day. I do not have specific information about the time of day that each was run, but weather was consistent enough that it would not affect the runs much. I do know that the Six-Gun product was the first one run on the vehicle.

allrighty........so the stock tranny will hold the race version........

allrighty........so the stock tranny will hold the race version........


You beat me to it.. I was just fixing to say that....http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

I'd like to see these tests done on a newer truck. This truck must be pretty beaten to not hold Juice/attitude in level 5. Most are seeing 0-60 times of around 6-6.5 seconds with Juice/attitude.

Thanks for the update Peter. I would really like to see those results in cronological order. It would be nice to see the results as aquired. Actually, I would like to see the test done again with the Banks tested last in order without any extra cool down time.


Thanks, Burner

BTW, did you guys do that funky crossover wire Banks thing for the tranny or did ya jut "hook it up" and go?

Vultures, all of you ...


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Thanks for taking the time to do all of this real world testing. I would not call it a race box, but it certianly sounds like a great improvement to the initial Six-Gun, and might even prove itself as a top runner for those planning to keep their Allison stock.

Hi Guys, would you settle for a seat of the pants feel?


Peter, If things go as planned and I can make it up there next Monday to pick up that new exhaust, is it possible to also get my Six-Gun reflashed that day. How long does it take? I'm assuming you need it out of the vehicle? If you could, let me know please.


Chuck

Thanks for taking the time to run the tests and provide the results. Good news to hear the Dmax is still fairing well with the other trucks.


Looks promising, but there is one glaring point in the 0-10mph test comparo. Looks like better throttle management for both the Juice and Bully Dog runs would have picked up 0.4sec. Can't hardly attribute those losses to power modules.

Peter, hows the LLY stuff coming?

Thanks for the update Peter. I would really like to see those results in cronological order. It would be nice to see the results as aquired. Actually, I would like to see the test done again with the Banks tested last in order without any extra cool down time.


Thanks, Burner





Oh my god, do you have anymore questions for the guy????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Thanks for the info Peter, love to see something else workin good!!!

What color socks with Blue Jeans and .....





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Its nice to see you have upped the power.. I'd like to see some of the people who previously dyno'd their six guns get it updated and repeat the testing.. fishhog where are you?

Peter, thanks for the update!

What color socks with Blue Jeans and .....





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Oh man, you are quite the character aren't you!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

I'd be curious as to what versions of the various boxes were used. Van Aaken has multiple levels, AND they were revently revised after a visit this spring. TST doesn't mention the Comp version was used. Edge wasn't the Hot version.





Not wanting to stir things up here, but if we are talking race boxes, then we need to compare to the current race boxes available. Since we need a beefed transmission, then beef it.





I've deliberatley steered away as much as possible from the controversy surrounding direct comparison of dyno plots showing the various brands. All I can say is if it claims to dust the others at the track, it had better do so...





So my question is this:


Will this be an official production revision to the std issue 6 gun programming? I was thinking that I'd keep mine around, but if this new programming is a general release to public update, I'll just send it in. Not sure, as some times it's nice to have acess to the older stuff for comparison...








PS. What code(s) was set with the Edge?Edited by: Kennedy

John since were good enough to do the load testing and back up their ##s, Peter should send u one for testing.


Keep up the good work John.

Kennedy, Peter answered a few of your questions already in his original post.






Six-Guns that are currently being shipped are programmed with the new calibrations. This aggressive tune will only affect levels 5 and 6 with the Speed-Loader installed and Level 6 without the Speed-Loader, all other levels will remain less aggressively tuned on initial fuel delivery. Edited by: Max Power

Exxxxxccccceeeellllllaaaaannnnnnttttttt!

Max Power,


I read that, but wanted to be SURE that all current release models would be this way, or if a special CARB exemption model was being released. There was a fair bit said about the Carb certification. If 2 versions exist, I want to keep what I have for "sentimental" reasons. I still have my TST Comp as none of the later versions that I have tested have matched it yet...





Tim,


Thanks for the plug, but I don't expect Banks to comp me anything. I bought my 6 gun and Big Head from Ted Jannetty. Edge has helped me out from time to time, BUT I also sell a lot of their products. My assistance from Edge came AFTER our relationship was forged. The reason I say this is that I want to make it clear that a freebie doesn't get biased reviews. If I'm going to get up and shout about something, it's because it works. If the Banks does good going forward to match it's power going back, it should be a good box for me to tow with...http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gif





Not that I get much time to tow anything any more...


Edited by: Kennedy

I installed the race box last night and it works great! Once the truck hits second gear it really pulls strong.

Since I do not have my dyno yet, I called Carbon04 and had him do some runs with me. My truck is a 2003 with a six inch lift and 33 inch tires. I have a Sun Coast competition transmission, exhaust upgrades, and a Holley fuel pump supplying 9 PSI to my factory fuel filter to keep a positive pressure at all times. His truck is a 2002, all stock except for an Edge box with the Attitude monitor and exhaust upgrades. That box is rated at 125 HP at the highest setting. We figure that my truck requires 20 more horsepower to stay even with him in a race due to the lift and tires.

We ran side by side with the Banks race box. We had the same results when I switched to the Edge Hot box with Attitude monitor which has a 145 HP rating. From what I can tell, the Banks Race and Edge Hot should produce very similar dyno numbers.

The Banks box has a very smooth feel and keeps the EGT’s at or below 1300. The highest boost readings I saw were 28 to 30 PSI. I do have the Big Head wastegate actuator. I don’t see any reason why this program can’t be used in all Duramax Six-Gun boxes as long as the pyrometer probe is installed to watch EGT’s, unless there is a CARB issue.

This version is definitely what the non-retirement crowd is looking for! Great job Banks. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

<st1:PersonName>Mark Huckstorf</st1:PersonName>
Huckstorf Diesel

Now put the hot juice in your truck and banks in Carbon04's truck and race again....

Good suggestion. I will ask him.

Mark

Can't wait. I'll be taking mine out tonight and sending it back tomorrow for the new tune. Thanks Banks.


WI Huck,


Does it bypass the speed limiter? Please say yes.Edited by: Scotty Seelen

Good intitial comparison, but for sanity, more sound testing is needed which includes that the driver, especially if associated with a product, doesn't know which unit is under test.

John, they could send u one to test and get some honest/unbiased ##s.





Peter, still waiting on the LLY ??????????????????????????????


Screw the LB7 guys and help US out http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Terrain Twister,
Yes, we can reflash the module while you wait. We can have our Install guys pull the box while you are here. Shouldn’t take more than about a half hour to pull it, reflash it and put it back in. I can give you a tour while you wait.

Ray403Dmax,
We found the 0-10 time lag interesting too, but both the Edge and the Bullydog were quicker than stock by the 0-20 mph point. We are not exactly sure what the cause is, but we have seen instances on the dyno where too much fuel on initial accelerator application can initially hurt power, so it may just be a calibration issue right at the very low end of the fuel table.

Dmax Tim,
LLY development is continuing. We anticipate product being available in 6-8 weeks.

Trippin,
We should be sending your box back to you today.

Kennedy,
I don’t have record of the exact code that was set with the Edge box, but it was related to a trans solenoid. We were attempting to run the Edge product that we had in its most aggressive tune, but would get the codes and the limp mode. As soon as we allowed the 4-5 derate, the problem went away. If you are really interested in knowing what code it was, PM me and I will arrange to duplicate the test.

All of the Six-Gun testing included the Speed-Loader which has always been sold as a non-emissions legal product. The new calibration is not considered emissions legal at this point. We do continue to offer an emissions legal product with our Stinger for those that are interested.

Peter,


Was the Six-Gun you replaced for me in May the new version? This is what I had to say about it then:








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The Six-Gun I have now is awesome. A totally different animal the the one I sent back. It must be a different version or something. The shifting is 10 times smoother with the new Six-Gun and power band seems more refined also. I'm a happy man. I only tried the old Six-Gun on #6 a few times because I didn't like the way it backed down so far to shift. Heck, I could shift a 6-speed faster than the Allison would with the power on number 6. I can run the new one on 6 now and everything is super smooth with no smoke at all.

I'm just curious on the code. No biggee, as most racers don't set codes after they beef the transmissions.





So basically in a nutshell, the Banks race tune did the best job of skirting the edge of transmission slip on a stock transmission.





It'll be interesting to see what the outcome is when a beefed transmission is thrown into the equation...





Trippin can have the honors of testing it and then being told by someone here that he did not test exactly correct, or in the wrong order etc. Heck, I have guys disputing the gains from timing adjustments on a 6.5 with WITNESSES PRESENThttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

Sounds like we need to have another So Cal dyno day.....Mike L? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

BRONCO, WHERE ARE YOU? ARENT YOU A SIXGUN SLINGER?http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

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[QUOTE=PeterT]
Banks has recently developed an all-out performance calibration for the Six-Gun Diesel Tuner. The fuel tables have been enhanced to deliver better acceleration characteristics than the initial release of the Six-Gun, while preserving the all-out power gains under full load. The new “Race” calibration will respond better under acceleration dyno tests and in 0-60 and quarter mile tests.

We recently ran a 2001 2wd dually automatic in a series of ¼ mile drag race tests. The truck was equipped with a stock exhaust, stock air filter and stock transmission. The test included runs with an Edge Juice with Attitude display (Edge does not recommend the use of their Hot file without transmission modifications), Bullydog Dyno Dominator, TST Power Max, Van Aaken Smart Box, and the Six-Gun with Speed-Loader. Testing was conducted at a speedway facility. Timing was done with a Stalker radar gun with timing software. A minimum of three runs in each configuration were made to ensure consistency; any runs that were more than a couple of tenths out of range were thrown out and rerun. The vehicle was launched from idle, no torque braking was done, again for the sake of consistency. Anytime that torque braking was done, wheel spin was an issue. The same driver performed all the tests.

Here are the best times that we observed with each unit, along with some comments about each:

Stock (no tuner)
¼ mile: 17.89 @ 80.5 mph
0-10 mph: 1.28 sec
0-40 mph: 5.70 sec
0-60 mph: 10.18 sec

<H1 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Edge Juice</H1>
¼ mile: 15.94 @ 90.7 mph (10.9% better time, 12.7% better speed)
0-10 mph: 1.47 sec (14.8% worse)
0-40 mph: 4.35 sec (23.7% better)
0-60 mph: 7.33 sec (28.0% better)
Runs were made on Level 5. We attempted to run the truck w

Neverenuf,
The calibration that you have was an earlier update, but you do not have this most recent race calibration. We would be happy to update you to the new level if you like.

Sounds like we need to have another So Cal dyno day.....Mike L? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif





How about August?

So are you guys going to be coming out with a big box for a LB7 any time soon or is this going to be your highest output unit? Trans is waiting for me to get some free time and as much as I like it my little juice tune aint going to be enough. Its about time to upgradehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif Just looking at my options

Peter, just out of curiosity, what cab configuration was the truck and any idea on the weight (If you said It already I appologize)?


Chuck

I really have to question the Powermax numbers, I do not see how this test could be right as a stock Allison can not handle the Powermax past about levels 5 on power and 4 on torque settings.


I had the TST PowerMax box and my truck run like an ape on fire in the mid range settings and would limp the transmission going in to 5th gear. I never got to test any levels past 6 power/3 torque. That is why I do not see how this test could be accurate if run using a truck with a stock transmission. Just my opinion!

I have a feeling there will be more testing that will iron some things out.

I did testing with WI Huck. I will be going to the track very soon andI will do back to back runs with the edge juice/***. 125 and banks "race". My truck is a 2004 ec sb. Stock allison. My truck runs CONSISTENT 13.90's with only the 125hp juice. So we will see what the banks can do. I don't care what hp/tq I it can put down. I want the best quarter mile times. Thats all that matters. From the "testing" we did the other night I was not impressed with the banks. For a "race box" it seemed middle of the road. Most races against the banks I pulled a 1/2 truck on the banks right away and then we were even. The edge hot was even with me up until forth and then he started pulling away. I will put the banks race on my truck and do back to back runs at the dragstrip. I can do video but I have no way to post it.

Carbon04,


Have you ever run a Bullydog Powerpup 155hp with your Edge Juice w/*** 125hp? These times posted above seem all over the place, even considering the altitude factor. You say you run a 13.9, while Banks ran a 15.9. Banks tests a stock truck and it runs 17.9. Mine, and several magazines, run 16.3 stock. Banks tests their new Race version, and they end up with a 15.4. That's what I ran with the very first version. I guess I'll just go by what they GAINED on that very same truck they tested on that day.


If I can run around 14.5 with the new Six-Gun w/speedloader where I live, I'll be happy. That will be knocking .8 off my 1/4 mile time with my current Six-Gun, which I just sent back to Banks for the re-flash.

Since they didn't test the TTS tow tune, on a 7500lb raceweight with no other changes, it ran 17.69 before and 15.53 after. But about 0.4 (max) of that was DA difference, so about 17.29 before and 15.53 after.

I received the Hot Banks today. Now I just have to get back to the dyno............................

What'cha wait'n on? GO! GO! GO! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif If it's possible..... could you make a small vid of the runs at the exhaust? It might give us some insight on the 60ft times they attained.


Thanks Trippin!


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Yes, and make sure to document the runs in chronological order with environmental conditions. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Yes, and make sure to document the runs in chronological order with environmental conditions. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Superflow does this for us, but I always back up with my own weather station. FYI "Tag systems" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

Yes, and make sure to document the runs in chronological order with environmental conditions. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Superflow does this for us, but I always back up with my own weather station. FYI "Tag systems" http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif








Not bringing your weather station can lead to ALL kinds of dyno grief!


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Weather station and Tech 2, don't leave home without it! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif Edited by: Trippin

I am going to try and run both tomorrow night(friday) Anyone want to come and watch? I don't know what kind of "proof" everyone wants to see. I can take video and show timeslips. Without witnesses from the board it won't do much. With the edge "hot" WI HUCK could pull away on the top end. With the Banks "race" I could pull him down low and stay even on the top. So on his truck it is slower than the Edge "hot". I will do the best I can to give real world acceleration times from my truck. My truck is very consistent in 13.92 - 14.04 as everyone at DHRA race in wisconsin saw. So I will see if it can best the 125 juice/***. I HAVE A STOCK TRANS.Edited by: Carbon04

I will pray for your trans... OHMMMM!!!

Is that the same thing as a meditation chant? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Approve.gif

Weather station and Tech 2, don't leave home without it! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif





I've got a mercurial barometer on the wall, and a sling psychrometer as well. Victory Red helped with the barometer, now my man Trippin needs to edumacate me on the psychrometer. I guess it's fairly simple, just haven't studied it yet.


These tools are only present to verify calibration of the dyno's weather data acquisition tools, but without them, I'd be guessing...

I think I have a freak for an allison. I have 50+ 1/4 runs. 100+ 1/8th mile runs. I drive it, I don't baby it. I have never limped it. Pulls great. No flairs or anything. The truck has 10K on it and 6K with the 125hp juice/***. I changed the spin on at 5K. I changed the spin on and dropped the pan at 10K. Fluid was red, not burnt. I cut open the filter and it had discoloration to the media but no chunks. I am going to build the trans but the parts I want are not available as of yet. If something happens before then, it happens. I will be doing the equivalent of a sc stage 3. If I have to replace a few more bushings and seals because of the added power(abuse) so be it. I can't see breaking any hard parts or the rotating assembly so I am not too worried. Banks ran the "race" box on a stock trans truck. They stated that they didn't run the hot oj because trans mods are recommended, so I am not worried. If my 125hp edge isn't limping my trans I doubt the banks will either.

Can't wait for the results http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


As you can see by my signature I'm in need of a good box. wonder how they will run way up here in the clouds? Edited by: IBDMAX'IN

With the edge "hot" WI HUCK could pull away on the top end. With the Banks "race" I could pull him down low and stay even on the top. So on his truck it is slower than the Edge "hot". I will do the best I can to give real world acceleration times from my truck. My truck is very consistent in 13.92 - 14.04 as everyone at DHRA race in wisconsin saw. So I will see if it can best the 125 juice/***. I HAVE A STOCK TRANS.
From the looks of the road out front, traction was a big issue. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif That is how you got the jump on me most times. Your truck is solidly consistent. The results will be great information.

Mark

Any of you guys do your drag racing in 4wd? We were at the track yesterday experimenting, looking for the best overall results. Early on, I could get the best times by using 4wd and torque braking, but eventually the truck became a real handful (torque steer) and the fronts didn’t want to accept the torque (toe in). If you use 4wd, what do you do to beef the front end?

peterT, drop the torsen bars all the way down

Four wheel drive is a must! I thought I could launch in two, but at the track I gave my truck a coating of rubber.

I have parts from these guys on my truck, and I ran the torsion bars almost all the way out. I am surprised you did not tweak a tie rod end.

http://www.cognitomotorsports.com (http://www.cognitomotorsports.com/)

Mark

PS - The above mentioned testing with Carbon04 were all in two wheel drive, hence the second layer of rubber. (Ok, maybe the 10<SUP>th</SUP>, 20<SUP>th</SUP>, who is counting? I better quit because those Nitto’s weren’t cheap! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif )

Peter T,


When testing in 4wd, has a front locker been installed so both front tires pull?


JP

I’ve been asked to clarify a couple of points about the new calibration. This calibration is NOT emissions compliant. It is a different and new part number than the previous Six-Gun calibration. When you send a Six-Gun in for a reflash, the part number will be changed on the module so the E.O. that applies to the previous calibration will NOT apply to the new calibration. The data that was presented at the beginning of this thread was gathered at a racing facility, not on a public roadway.

On the label for the Six-Gun there is a part number and a serial number. Part number 62956 is the Six-Gun with the first calibration that we shipped. It is emissions compliant and is covered under CARB E.O. D-161-74. Part number 62967 is the “race” calibration and is not emissions compliant. Both products are Six-Guns. We only began shipping 62967 on June 30, so if you received your Six-Gun prior to that date, it is part number 62956 and is emissions compliant. You can still request the emissions legal calibration when purchasing a Six-Gun.

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I can't make it to the track tonight but i have made arrangements with WI Huck to go tuesday night. We will do our own test of all the programs we have. What does everyone want to see? I can do video if someone can host it. Pics....anything else?

Any of you guys do your drag racing in 4wd? We were at the track yesterday experimenting, looking for the best overall results. Early on, I could get the best times by using 4wd and torque braking, but eventually the truck became a real handful (torque steer) and the fronts didn’t want to accept the torque (toe in). If you use 4wd, what do you do to beef the front end?





In addition to lowering your torsen bars, there are tie-rod sleeves and even a replacement center link available. Also if you set the static toe-in to 0, it will launch much better than the factory toe-in setting.

Peter T,


A few months ago when talking about the upcoming "race box" you mentioned a few of the safety factors might be lost. So I am curious what had to give?


1. Max turbo speed of 125k?


2. Max rail pressure of 24,900?


3. Automatic fuel backout at 1350 degrees?


4. Power reduction at 3% tranny slip?


I am just guessing that one or more of these previous limits had to be stretched a little?( Correct me if any of my above numbers are off for the original box as well.)Edited by: Bronco

Peter;


In the set of testing it stated that the Edge Juice yielded the highest egt's. What was the highest documented egt from the six gun?

Bronco,
Good questions. I will need to check into the data on the turbo speed and the rail pressure. EGT limit was bumped up to 1500, trans slip detection was left alone. I think I have said before that the only way that we ever achieve trans slip is under full load (load dyno testing) in 5<SUP>th</SUP> gear, so trans slip was not an issue with the Six-Gun in this test.

I will be out of the office Monday through Thursday of next week, but as soon as I can get the answer to the other two questions, I will post them.

EMSi,
The peak EGT with the Edge box was 1507 degrees, the Six-Gun was slightly lower than that at 1491.

Thanks Peter.

I can't make it to the track tonight but i have made arrangements with WI Huck to go tuesday night. We will do our own test of all the programs we have. What does everyone want to see? I can do video if someone can host it. Pics....anything else?

You guys still planning on going tonight? If you're headed to GLD I might cruise up to watch (or maybe get a few passes in on my LLY truck...)

WI Huck isn't back from vacation yet and he has the race box at his shop. The forecast is calling for rain for the next few days and Union Grove has been known for closing the track with a Chance of rain, I will keep eveyone posted.

Peter T,


In your origianl post of this thread your gave a brief description of the testing scenario. I reread the section referring to the EDGE with attitude test. I see you commented on the user input setting in regards to the 4-5 shift defuel option. I did not see you mention anywhere what setting the other main user input setting of low boost fueling was set at? Somewhere inbetween 1 and 5. If you have this spec. please let us know.


Thanks.

Bronco,
To finish answering your questions:

Fuel rail pressure was not increased from the early calibration to the new “race” calibration, so we are still within the 25,000 PSI max.

Turbo speed is still within the 125,000 RPM window at our test facility which is about 1100 feet above sea level. It is possible that turbo speed would exceed 125,000 RPM at higher elevations.

The low boost fueling on the Edge Juice was set to 5, the highest setting.

Hello Peter,


Thanks for the honest answers. One more question for you. I just noticed Banks is selling a gauge/interface for the Ford. It is about the size of a regualar gauge but allows you to adjust the power levels of the Ford module. Are/when is a product like this going to be available for the Duramax?

That Six-Gun is specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke and is considerably different in design than the Six-Gun for the 6.0L Power Stroke, which is more similar to the Duramax unit. At this point in time there are no plans to produce such an interface for the Duramax, but it is not an impossibility.

Peter T,


That is too bad to hear. I thought maybe Banks was getting close to releasing there version of the attitude.


Here is the unit for the 7.3 Ford. http://www.bankspower.com/newproducts-6-04-2.cfmEdited by: Bronco