Who do these Brits think the he!! they are coming in here and changing all our normal, common, everyday standards????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif

Pulled up to a BP station out of desperation (32 miles left on the gauge) Sunday night on the way home from the Bloomington Gold Corvette show in <st1:place><st1:City>St. Charles</st1:City>, <st1:State>IL</st1:State></st1:place>. Its getting dark, I’m a bit tired. Grab the “GREEN” nozzle to fill up with diesel and pump 0.97 gallons into the tank when I realize http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif OMG this is regular not diesel.
Filled rest of the tank up with 25 gallons of Diesel, she ran OK but I now have a Check engine light on the dash.
I knew one day I would do this and it would be at one of them “Foreign Owned” stations.
Ran the tank out and am now back to 100% Flying J diesel.
Did I hurt anything here?

You shouldn't have hurt anything with that much diesel dilution. Don't know that would have tripped the check engine light. Could be coincidental, could have something to do with the "thinned" fuel. GM used to recommend up to 25% kerosene in the fuel for extreme cold - did it a couple of times in my 6.5TD Tahoe in central Illinois at -25 degrees. Crappy performance, but no problems. I wouldn't worry about the amout of gasoline you got in there, but would want to code scan for what got logged.

I have heard straight from this D/A owner's mouth that he accidentially feeled his truck up with regular unleaded. After realizing what he did, he then put in 2 quarts of automatic trasmission fuild and then ran it like that the whole tank full. He did not hurt his truck so I quessing you will be fine.

I had commented about a BP station in Idaho Springs Colorado about 6 months ago here at the PLACE. I went out of my way to go to there brightly lit station.


I should have knowin 25 green diesel handles was to good to be true.


We should wright and protest. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

The Pilot station I use at exit 86 I-24 in Kentucky also has green nozzle covers for their gasoline - black for the diesel.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif For my own good, I have to always do a double check to ensure I am getting diesel. Edited by: motocopter

Did the same thing about a month ago..... it was 5.00 GALLLONS in a very very dry tank. Added a bunch a lube and 21 gallons of diesel, 4-5 tanks later.... no problems.





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Who do these Brits think the he!! they are coming in here and changing all our normal, common, everyday standards????http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif

Pulled up to a BP station out of desperation (32 miles left on the gauge) Sunday night on the way home from the Bloomington Gold Corvette show in <st1:place><st1:City>St. Charles</st1:City>, <st1:State>IL</st1:State></st1:place>. Its getting dark, I’m a bit tired. Grab the “GREEN” nozzle to fill up with diesel and pump 0.97 gallons into the tank when I realize http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Shocked.gif OMG this is regular not diesel.
Filled rest of the tank up with 25 gallons of Diesel, she ran OK but I now have a Check engine light on the dash.
I knew one day I would do this and it would be at one of them “Foreign Owned” stations.
Ran the tank out and am now back to 100% Flying J diesel.
Did I hurt anything here?





This story is very familiar to me. The only difference is that I filled my tank plum full of this BP gas and didn't notice untill I was rounding off the total. The nozzle was green and also on the left where the diesel usually is. The thing that really pi$$ed me off is that the gas nozzles were black. Not to mention being over 200 miles from home. Luckily I was able to get a ride to a local Walmart where I purchased 5 gas cans and siphen hose for $60. Then I had to give that station another 35 bucks to fill with diesel. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif After I finally persuaded that generous man who offered me the ride into taking another $20 my total cost was +$150 to leave that place. Other than the wine above the passenger seat things ran OK. If at all possible I now avoid giving buisness to BP. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Down.gif

I will not buy at BP or Pilot filling stations or truck stops for this very reason. Someone needs to make a standard for different types of fuel so this kind of thing don't happen.


a bear; Every Flying-J and Loves truck stop I have been to have always had the diesel to the right of the gas. Just a little info for anyone thinking they are all/most are on the left.

It's not real hard to be smarter than a "Britt", guess we'll have to start reading the pump labeling ourself, damn the luck.


My kids never did like the "Color Coding"; Blue = Monday, Red = Tuesday, .....etc. Go figure!


Idahofox

OH my Gosh you people sound like the Ford site!!


STOP IT Please!


How about instead of blaming BP, you READ the pump!!??


I really dont think there needs to be a color code standard; If we can afford these trucks we must be somewhat educated right??http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


You sound like the lady that sued McDonalds for HOT COFFEE!

Many stations in Colorado do not cary diesel. Rather than pull all the way in, I look for the green handles. That is how the BP in Idaho Springs got me to do a uturn and pull in. I do read the pump and that is why I did not proceed and fill up.


Wonder if they would let me put gasoline in a blue can?

Wonder if they would let me put gasoline in a blue can?

Why would you want to put gasoline in a kerosene canhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Question.gif

Jim

Wonder if they would let me put gasoline in a blue can?




Why would you want to put gasoline in a kerosene canhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Question.gif

Jim


Thats the point. STANDARDS

I like the system that PMEX has in Mexico.


Completely seperate islands for diesel--usually in the back or at the side away from all the gas pumps. The pump is black--but since only commercial/transportation trucks are diesel--there is lots of room at the islands.

Wonder if they would let me put gasoline in a blue can?




Why would you want to put gasoline in a kerosene canhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Question.gif

Jim


Thats the point. STANDARDS

Ah, then you put gasoline in <font color="red">RED</font> cans, kerosene in <font color="blue">BLUE</font> cans and diesel in YELLOW cans. But then outside of mail order catalogs, where do you find a standard for container colors? The only one I'm aware of is RED for liquids with flashpoints below 80F.

Jim

Jholly,


Obviously I am in favor of having all diesel handles green and having them be the only handle at the station that is green.


What is yoour point?

Just get rid of all the gas pumps altogether. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Problem solved.

OH my Gosh you people sound like the Ford site!!


STOP IT Please!


How about instead of blaming BP, you READ the pump!!??


I really dont think there needs to be a color code standard; If we can afford these trucks we must be somewhat educated right??http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


You sound like the lady that sued McDonalds for HOT COFFEE!





I guess you can look at it that way untill you fill the damn tank w/gas. I've been running diesels the majority of my life and this was the 1st incident. Believe me when it happens you will not be all that calm about it. I don't think education has a thing to do with it. It's usually the uneducated ones that have to read everything. But then again some people are perfect. At least in their oun mind.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

I also agree that there should be an ISO standard for fuel stations. I haven't had this problem yet , but I am sure my wife will screw up soon. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Tongue.gif

My wife is afraid of pumping the wrong fuel, so she will only refuel at a nearby station that has it's own diesel island. She can't go wrong if she always uses the same pump at the same station. Otherwise, I don't let her drive far enough from home to burn a whole tank of fuel.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

And you really blame BP for your mistake?


Geez, that sounds like some parents I know who have 'perfect kids' that are never at faulthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif





Believe me, Im not perfect, but if I accidentally put some gasoline in my truck, I would surely just suck it up and accept the fact that I made a mistake and not try to blame the station.

2muchfun,


I think what everyone would like is a set standard. It's kind'a like traffic signs where people react to the color and then the symbols. The green signs are generally street signs, the yellow signs are some sort of caution and the red signs mean stop or warning. If you happened to see an old yellow sign stuck right by the road, what would you think? Probably a Deer crossing, bus stop or something like that. What do you think would happen if it were a really dingy yellow STOP sign. You know, faded and covered with years of stuff. Would you have time to react? I doubt it. That's what everyone is talking about. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


Shape, movement, color and then symbol is generally the order in which people recognize objects.





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I think all gas stations should just match there pump handles to the color of there emblem/logo. I also think they should take off all lables on the pump.


You then would be required to smell the fuel to verify diesel or not. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif


Better yet bring your own testing kit. Verify octane and cetane as well. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif


I guess the moral of the story here is that color of the pump handle don't mean squat.

'Nuff Said!





Caveat Emptor!

Just lick the nozel and make sure it tastes like diesel then fill it up.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif

And you really blame BP for your mistake?


Geez, that sounds like some parents I know who have 'perfect kids' that are never at faulthttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif





Believe me, Im not perfect, but if I accidentally put some gasoline in my truck, I would surely just suck it up and accept the fact that I made a mistake and not try to blame the station.





No one ever said BP was totally at fault and I do take responsibility for my actions. However things can be done to make it easier to avoid the mistake. The 1st impression I got when talking to the manager was that my ordeal wasn't their first. Making things better for consumers is just good simple progress. But why change things when it's good enough right........http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif

ok your running a piece of press equipment your shirt gets caught.... your about tho get the headlines printed on your soon to be flat head.... do you hit the green button or the red one?

May sound strange, but I automatically always, I mean always smell the nozzle before it goes in my truck....

I agree that color coded is the way to go and it should be a standard.





Having to smell the fuel isn't a reliable method. I have had issues in combat dealing with mislabled fuels and however much of an inconvenience you think it is stateside, try tactically towing a hummer that got a refill of mogas 250 miles from your forward operating base.


There's a reason cans are color coded. Hell, if walmart can get yellow and red cans straight why can't gas stations? Just make every diesel nozzle yellow and all mogas ones red.

No one ever said BP was totally at fault ...


Ummm, read the title of the post and then continue into the text...

ok your running a piece of press equipment your shirt gets caught.... your about tho get the headlines printed on your soon to be flat head.... do you hit the green button or the red one?


Theres a big difference between a piece of safety/emergency equipment and a fuel pump.





Yes, although I agree standard color coding is a good tool, it should not be totally relied upon in this particular environment. ~There's no emergency or rush and the local fill station is not a combat zone.


So Maybe the company Does want to color code their station for visual appeal, Pay Attention to the BIG PRINT on the pump that says either DIESEL or UNLEADED http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif

No one ever said BP was totally at fault ...


Ummm, read the title of the post and then continue into the text...





I didn't title the post and please do read into the text.....What is it to you anyway. Seems evident by your posts that you have nothing in common with this thread and like to stir the pot. If your happy with the way things are for you just go about your buisness and STFU.

Why do you think smelling the fuel is un-reliable?

.... Hell, if walmart can get yellow and red cans straight why can't gas stations? Just make every diesel nozzle yellow and all mogas ones red.





I hate those wally (Blitz) gas cans regardless of color. They are marked "Not for refueling of on the road vechicles" at least here in CA. Seems that the dorky arrangement (nozzle/no vent provision) is due to CARB rules. What ARE they supposed to be for? Filling lawn mowers/generators/farm tractors? What about the rest of us? Bought the same can from wally in TX and it came w/a conventional spout but still slow gurgling dump (unvented). Even sadder is its getting tuffer to find the simple fuel cans any more. I do carry them anyway tho ~ maybe a 45gal transfer flo will be in my future.


As to the color issue ~ I've been aware of some stations not holding to established protocol and watch it very closely ~ anyway as best I can considering road fatigue. One station on our last trip ~ had ALL green nozzles. Died an gone to diesel heaven http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


Think we have problems? Japan entered the war w/a single ideograph (kanji character) for petroleum. That was it ~ crankcase oil, bunker fuel, aviation gas ~ you name it. Imagine the logistics issues that arose to keep up w/entry into the modern war w/then emerging technologies using their ancient infrastructures. As for us ~ a coworker tells me that they would wash down our B17s w/gas. Think the inevitable happen and that practice was stopped. Edited by: ShumDit

I agree with MaineMax, always sniff the nozzle just to make sure what you are getting. People may think your crazy but I do not want gas in my baby.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif Edited by: Blue Max

ok your running a piece of press equipment your shirt gets caught.... your about tho get the headlines printed on your soon to be flat head.... do you hit the green button or the red one?


Theres a big difference between a piece of safety/emergency equipment and a fuel pump.





Yes, although I agree standard color coding is a good tool, it should not be totally relied upon in this particular environment. ~There's no emergency or rush and the local fill station is not a combat zone.


So Maybe the company Does want to color code their station for visual appeal, Pay Attention to the BIG PRINT on the pump that says either DIESEL or UNLEADED http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gif





Ever been at one on a busy highway durring rush hour?


i dont want to cause a fight but this is America and we are the laziest people in the world. We have come to rely on color code and we obviously dont think twice about the standards. if the green light was on the top and there was a cop at the intersection, do you go? what do you rely on the color or the position of the light? Personally I read the pump, and the station by me has black on the 1" nozzles and green on the 3/4" nozzle.

No one ever said BP was totally at fault ...


Ummm, read the title of the post and then continue into the text...





I didn't title the post and please do read into the text.....What is it to you anyway. Seems evident by your posts that you have nothing in common with this thread and like to stir the pot. If your happy with the way things are for you just go about your buisness and STFU.





1. I was never specifically directing my comments to you, but now I am.


2. I DID read into the text and it does specifically refer to BP as being at fault.


3. Excuse me, but I do also have a diesel, this topic is pertainant to ALL of us, this is a OPEN board and who the F#$K are you to tell me to stay out of it and STFU?!? I dont like to stir the pot just for the sake of it, but I'll kick it over when I think it's full of crap!


Go eat some more mud bugs or whatever you do down there and let the rest of us enjoy a debateable topic!

Back on topic:


Yes, it would be nice to have a standard with pretty colors, but we all might show a little bit of care when dealing with a very expensive machine such as our trucks.


If someone puts the wrong fuel in their truck, its not the fault of anyone but that person. ~Thats all I was saying. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif

One thing for sure, dem mud bugs sure taste better than what a lot of guys where you live enjoy tasting. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif Don't see much of that here in the South. Maybe them bugs as you call it also produce National champion football players and re occuring baseball champions. You make claims that you don't stir the pot and now you revert to zone wars. Go figure!

WAAAAA!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


WAAAAAAA!!!!http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif


You guys remind me of my kids.


Enuff already

You're 100% correct http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


2MuchFun http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gifEdited by: a bear

Abear,


I think he's just confused a little. I think that living in CA has bore him accustomed to "whining" rather than justified complaints. To him we are just whining like little kids ........ and he's sick of it. Problem is...we're not whining, venting perhaps but not whining. However, I think that we have all agreed that we are responsible for our own actions as well as others. And, that we would all agree that pump handle "Standard color" would be a fact, not a choice. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif


Chow

Burner,


We really need not prove anything as it is already common knowledge across the US which state has the reputation for crying and whining. Just look at the past fuel price threads. Most of these people are never wrong and will usually argue to no end. It's a shame for the children who learn these habbits as a normal way of life. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Bring up a simple suggestion about color coding a nozzle and someone has to come along and tell you to stop crying and just read. And for what? My problem is that things don't easily roll off my back (my bad) but now I am beginning to wonder why I should even bother. Edited by: a bear

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Bring up a simple suggestion about color coding a nozzle and . ...





See now you want to play it down, but the title of the thread is:


"#!*%’en BP Petroleum, stupid rat *&amp;%#$ ^$%#@"


Now that and other comments made specifically about BP are the problem, not a "simple suggestion about color coding". The implication is that its the Fuel Stations fault that someone F'ed up and put gas in their diesel.


Oh, and dont be jealous of the Golden state, we might just fall into the ocean someday right http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Wink.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Hug.gif


Anyway, I made my point and dont need to argue with fellow GM guys, -thats what the dieselstop is for.. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif

well we went on a month long trip in june with ouer 5ver and in oregoen couldnt get diesel at a shell so went across to a pil olate and got diesel put in next day drove most of the day till we got at about 1/3 tank the truck started missing and thowing out white smoke stoped and got on to onstar for the nearest dealer thinking it was injectors lucky wewhere only a little over a mile away got thier and had it checked out thay said it was the fuelso had them drain it and put a new filter on and it ran fine after that thay thought thier might have been gas in the tank if so it would have come out of the diesel pump we traveled for two more weeks had no more problems the sad part is thier was a big moterhome nerxt to us he was at $180and still fillinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

I think they should just cover the cover with product advertisment so there is no color. Because that is what we need more advertisments.

I think they should just cover the cover with product advertisment so there is no color. Because that is what we need more advertisments. Heck, if it will help lower the cost of fuel... http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/HiHi.gif


There are a few stations in my area that have little 5" monitors in the pump that advertise to you while you fill up!

It is entirely possible that the truck delivering fuel to the station may have put the wrong fuel in the bulk tank or may not have flushed the tanker completely before refilling. And there will be no way to tell if your fuel is contaminated or not. So colors or smell may not even help then. Or maybe someday you will be tired and in a hurry and grab the wrong color and not notice the smell. When I worked at the garage it happened quite a few times to people that came in.

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif Bring up a simple suggestion about color coding a nozzle and . ...





See now you want to play it down, but the title of the thread is:


"#!*%’en BP Petroleum, stupid rat *&amp;%#$ ^$%#@"


Now that and other comments made specifically about BP are the problem, not a "simple suggestion about color coding". The implication is that its the Fuel Stations fault that someone F'ed up and put gas in their diesel.








WHOA there, WTF????





I made the title to this thread and I AM blaming BP for not sticking to standards. And yes, last I checked I still could read.


I also am to blame for the screw up but only because I have become accustomed to green being a standard pump handle color for Diesel. I have never seen it different anywhere else except for Black handles on fast fill pumps.


If New Jersey changed all their Green lights to Blue and their Red lights to White you bet you azz there are going to be some accidents in the very near future.


When I spoke to the man at the cashier he said he trys to watch for Diesels doing this because it happens all the time.


British Petroleum, needs to stick to US standards.

The traffic light analogy is no good.


The pump said UNLEADED on it.


The "Standard" is that unleaded pumps say "UNLEADED" and diesel pumps say "DIESEL".


Fault= YOU not BP.


I thought we were done with this issue?





BTW, where did you mount your streamlight? The only place I could find that was still convenient is on the 'B' Pillar about head level. I wish there was room on the floor next to the drivers seat like on the SD.

While I don't pump much Diesel these days, most I've seen are a VERY DIRTY, YELLOW handled nozzle cover.

Gas are almost always Black or whatever color scheme the station has.

BTW, where did you mount your streamlight? The only place I could find that was still convenient is on the 'B' Pillar about head level. I wish there was room on the floor next to the drivers seat like on the SD.





Well, there is. Here is a picture I just took this AM for you. I mounted the 5 cell with charging bracket just below the side of the console. The seat in this picture is all the way back and all the way down.


http://www.photohost.org/gallery/data/3574/219Prodigy_and_Streamlite_002-med.jpg

Sweet! I hope you dont mind me copyinghttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

Hey, my theory is "Plagiarism saves time" go for ithttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif