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LanduytG 10-08-2003, 05:44 PM I hope to have in my hands very soon a fuel filter with built in fuel pump, water sensor and heater. This will be great for those guys with the Mega or anyine that wants better filteration with a fuel pump. Only problem is its a little pricy. Will run about $325. Available in 2, 10, or 30 micron. Greg fishdmax 10-08-2003, 05:51 PM Greg, can you give us more details, like mount location and replacement element costs? Steve Diesel Power 10-08-2003, 05:54 PM I presume no pictures as of yet? is this a racor unit? LanduytG 10-08-2003, 06:49 PM No pics yet nor replacement element cost. I think I would mount it on the frame myself just because it would make it so much easier. Yes it is a Racor and I think it will mount on the bracket I already have. This would also be a great setup for the 6.5TD folks. It comes in three sizes and what i posted is the biggest at 50gpm. They have a 30 and 40 gpm as well. Greg a bear 10-08-2003, 06:56 PM Greg, Any ideas what the pressures would run without a bypass ? This sounds like a nice product. LanduytG 10-08-2003, 07:35 PM 10 psi is the max pressure it will run. Has a built in bypass so when you get to pressure it wil open and recirculate the fuel. I ordered up a sample today so I don't figure it will show up for 2 or 3 weeks. Racor is butt slow. Greg JEBar 10-08-2003, 07:51 PM Greg ... you should have mail ... Jim geno 10-08-2003, 07:58 PM Greg Is it a standyne, I just bought one if it is that does the same thing and filter replacements are 19.00 Geno hoot 10-08-2003, 10:38 PM Is this it Greg? http://www.uscom.com/~hoot/cars/duramax/gmc/fuelfilter/Pseries.jpg LanduytG 10-09-2003, 12:06 AM Boy Hoot you must have some hound dog in you. Yes thats it, but the one you have here is the small one. The large on is 11" long. Greg JEBar 10-09-2003, 11:26 AM Greg ... Available in 2, 10, or 30 micron. With a post OEM Mega, which of the above would you recommend? Would the addition of a second fuel heater cause any problems during the summer? Jim LanduytG 10-09-2003, 01:14 PM If I already had a 2 micron in the line I would use the 10 micron on this filter. Have 2 heaters is not and issue because they have their own thermostat. So they will only be on when it gets down to about 35-40 degrees. Greg Frank Blum 10-10-2003, 07:18 PM Greg, Surely you mean 50 GPH? Later! Frank DMaxDave 10-12-2003, 09:01 PM Another pic of RFCM I would shure like to have one. Davehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/976_fuel_cond_pop.jpg Ray403Dmax 10-12-2003, 11:29 PM Greg, Is this the newly anticipated Racor unit that TDP member "Racor" mentioned two weeks ago? Ray403Dmax 10-12-2003, 11:33 PM Integrated designs are awesome for installation. I would think Racor could provide easy installation instructions for that water sensor signal. On the otherhand, didn't they mentioned something about cutting metal fuel lines for installation? Ray403Dmax 10-12-2003, 11:36 PM It would be nice if GM could give a blessing to a few of these fuel filter options so a post OEM install would be less warranty troubling. Just wishing outloud I guess. Victory Red 10-13-2003, 06:59 AM This actually seems like a pretty good setup with the all in one package. Question is though the difficulty of adding the power to it. I could probably live without the WIF and heater though, but the pump to help out my OEM and CAT secondary would be welcome. Could there be a 3rd filter in my near future??http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif hoot 10-13-2003, 07:19 AM The main focus should be on filtration performance. The pump helps reduce vapor but filtration is of prime importance. Victory Red 10-13-2003, 07:37 AM True Hoot, than again in my case I'd probably run a 10 mic in their. I'd be going from 10 to Whatever the OEM can grab than to my 2 mic CAT. Should almost eliminate ANY possible issues I could ever have related to running dirty fuel. Plus as most lift pump pics have shown, it seems to better utilize the OEM filter as well(no banding). modified 10-19-2003, 05:35 PM What are the hose fitting sizes? What is the estimated life? Is it rebuildable, or a expensive throwaway? Will the pump pass fuel if fails? If the bowl made of plastic, a stone guard may be desireable with frame mounted units. I would assume a 25A or 30A fused 12V source will be needed. smartfix 10-19-2003, 08:39 PM hello george Like to get one asap.. From steve Ray403Dmax 11-07-2003, 07:22 PM I ordered up a sample today so I don't figure it will show up for 2 or 3 weeks. Racor is butt slow. Greg It's been over 4 weeks now, any updates to report? LanduytG 11-08-2003, 09:17 PM Yes I have a report, I asked my supplier this past week and it was sent from Racor this past week so I think Monday Tuesday time frame I should have it in hand. This one is already sold. But if it looks like it will do the job I will have more coming and hopefully it will be faster. Greg smartfix 11-08-2003, 10:08 PM Hello LanduytG We got a final answer about this.. Adding a 2nd fuel filter to our fleet// This is per GM and there going to send a backup letter If you truck is under 100,000 or 5 years.. YOU Can Not add a lift pump on your 2003's Dmax rigs.. If found your fuel system will be Voilded .. The Reason the lift pump can't be added it could damage you main fuel injector pump This was a Quote per GM.. They told me some Dealers out west have voilded fuel systems .. For Reasons they would not tell me.. When we get our letter will post it From steve Fleet Dept Ray403Dmax 11-08-2003, 10:51 PM That's good news Greg! We eagerly await further updates. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif By the way, will you be determining the worthiness of the filter by sample testing and/or installation fit and finish?Edited by: Ray403Dmax Cruz_Man 11-09-2003, 08:50 PM Smarfix, I hope you told them your not worried about the pump it's the injectors failing. I just don't understand how they can void the warranty on the entire fuel system and then say they are worried about the pump. Oh well. Can you get them to sign off on a second fuel filter with no pump? LanduytG 11-11-2003, 11:07 AM OK guys I have one in my hand as I type. I will be taking pictures and posting them later. This kit will comes with everything you need. Bracket, Hose, Fittings, Bolts and Filter Unit. It comes with a cab mounted controller that will tell when you have water in the filter as well as a postion to run the pump manually after you change elements so you can prime it. Greg smartfix 11-11-2003, 11:45 AM Hello Greg We happy you got one in your had.. THE BOTTOM line for this Group with new rigs.. DID GM give you the OK to install it on new rigs under 100,000 miles.. If not your playing with fire.. and the people with new trucks Don't know that they Can Voild parts of your new Truck.. Your local dealer can tell you its ok to install.. TRY a Dealer out of Town .We had lots of S**T with Ford on adding stuff the our 7.3's We run a big fleet and i'm trying to look at this from both side.. If they will not fix yor fuel system because of the after market lift pump.. The user should know it will be up to them to pick up the TAB.. <THIS IS NOT A FLAME> GM is coming out soon with a 2nd filter that will be backed 100% WHY Play games with a 40,000 rig .. We have 200 Dmax now with 200 more on order.. I will not Chance it.. They told us to wait .. The new system will be in soon.. Good Luck.. Greg Just a note The system your going to sell is not ok by GM to cut into the system.. Read the fine print on GM add on's.. Ok Flame me now <smile> From steve Fleet Owner Edited by: smartfix LanduytG 11-11-2003, 11:55 AM Well here are some pictures of the unit, this is the complete kit with everything you need to mount it. You will need some hook up wire to hook up the electrical side of things. Included will be and aux power relay that can be turned on and off with ignition switch. Pump is automatic as well as the heater. Heater comes on when fuel is around 35*F. I believe it would be very easy to intigrate the water sensor into the OEM system. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/6CF_p5.jpg This is a picture of the controll unit that mounts in the cab. It has a water indicator as well as manual pump operation. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/FZC_p5c.jpg Picture of the element itself. This is available in 2, 10 and 30 micron and price is $21.50. Units will be coming with the 2 micron element unless you tell me that you want something different. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/uploads/84D_p5f.jpg tbrowne 11-11-2003, 12:47 PM Looks good - is it correct to assume the fuel is filtered before it gets to the pump? How much and how soon can we expect delivery? LanduytG 11-11-2003, 01:35 PM Yes the fuel is filter prior to go throught the pump. In the event the pump fails you will still get fuel through the filter. I have one now that is sold but I can have more in just a week or 10 days. Cost for the complete kit which includes fittings, hose clamps, mounting bracket for frame mount and aux power relay is $350, and replacement elements are $21.50. Greg | ||