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3500LLY
06-23-2004, 12:38 AM
Got my spray in bedliner today from a shop in Lincoln today. I have to say I am very impressed with it. I got it done at a place called line-x I think they might be a franchise but im not sure. Cost me $425 to get the spray on for under the rail on a long box. Just wondering what other people think of these? Has anyone had one in for an extended amount of time yet, few years? I looked at getting a colored one, my truck is silver, but i heard they fade so i think a faded black would look better than a faded silver.

bluenote
06-23-2004, 11:48 AM
Line-X is a national franchised brand name. You have a lifetime warranty that is honored at any Line-X dealer should you have a gouge or tear down the road. I had the Rhino liner in my last truck, and although I liked it, when I got the new truck I shopped around some more. There was a new Line-X dealer and I went with that, as I like the finish better (personal choice) and Line-X has a higher tensile strength.


Some people have said they fade over time, but it seems to me that it's more a situation of the spray-in getting a bit of dirt ground in. After having it in for over a year, mine was looking a little faded. The Line-X dealer told me they clean their show trucks with Simple Green cleaner. I sprayed straight Simple Green (no dilution) on the Line-X, scrubbed it with my wash brush, let it sit for a few minutes, and then power-washed it....looks just like new!!

TruckDaddy
06-23-2004, 02:25 PM
You should feel good that you got LINE-X, it's the best. The easiest way to keep it looking good for years to come is to put either Just Once (www.justonce.com (http://www.justonce.com)) or 303 Aerospace protectorant on it several times a year. It will keep it looking dark and new looking. Do not use any silicone based products like Armoral. Edited by: TruckDaddy

EEEEZY
06-29-2004, 04:37 PM
Like Bluenote, I had Rhino in my last truck. After shopping around, I had Line-X put into this one and really like it. Some say it's a little more slippery but, for my uses, it doesn't matter.

2MuchFun
06-29-2004, 05:47 PM
I have used Line-X for many years on many trucks and Love the stuff! It is very durable and I've had no problems other than fading. I really dont mind the fading if thats the worst that happens.


This time on my Chevy they added a UV protector for an extra $25 and it seems to be working very well! A guy I work with had his done about a month after me and his has lightened where mine is still shiny black.


Line-x is gooood stuff http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif

chevmeister
06-29-2004, 09:56 PM
what they saidhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif. 2nd truck with line-x and every truck i ever own will have one.

4x4man
06-30-2004, 09:16 AM
Very happy with Line-X as well. No problems at all!!

95geo
06-30-2004, 10:58 AM
i've seen a rhino liner and i like that its rubberized, is the line x like this or is it harder?

GMC-2002-Dmax
06-30-2004, 11:14 AM
LINE-X.............


It hold up to 3000 psi on my power washer for the past 2 years.....


It has faded slightly, but is the best in my opinion.


Read this...........by TruckDaddy


" OK, time to chime in. I can give you some real information instead of only opinions and hype. Here are some facts:


Rhino (Tuff Stuff): Shore A (90-95), tensile strength 2,700-2,900 psi, temperature tolerance 175 degrees, contains no polyurea, gels in a few minutes, cures in 24 hours.


Speedliner: Shore A (92), tensile strength 4,700 psi, temp tolerance is unknown, contains polyurea-probably not.


Superliner: Shore A (85), tensile strength 4,300 psi, temperature tolerance 180 degrees, contains no polyurea (see note below).


LINE-X: Shore D (45), tensile strength 1,800 psi, temperature tolerance 350 degrees, DOES contain polyurea, dries in 4 seconds, cures in 24 hours. "


The rest is here:


INFO (http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7946&PN=3)


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bluenote
06-30-2004, 02:10 PM
Line-X has a tensile strength of over 6,000 PSI, not sure where you got the other numbers from???

TruckDaddy
06-30-2004, 04:13 PM
LINE-X (XS-100) does not have a tensile strength of 6,000 psi. My information comes from the XS-100 techinical data from LINE-X. Tensile strength was 1,800 psi when tested with the ASTM D-2370 test. Note that the national standard test if performed under certain conditions (temp, thickness, etc.) BTW, the 350 temp tolerance is a typo, it's 250. PAXCON (XS-350) does have a temp tolerance of 350, though.


GMC-2002-Dmax: You can restore the finish with either Just Once (www.justonce.com (http://www.justonce.com)) or 303 Aerospace. Do not use any silicone based products, it makes the liner too slippery.


More Information: Speedliner's application requires an adhesive primer. That's glue in my book. Temperature tolerance should be considered along with tensile strength. As the temp of the bedliner approaches the temp tolerance, the liner loses tensile strength. At 250 degrees, you won't have a problem with LINE-X losing strength. Notice the other liners' temp tolerance.


Regarding fading: Bad news, they all fade, but some are much worse that others. Even the ones that advertise 100% aliphatic polyurethane still fade. Aliphatic (vs. aromatic) poly is more UV resistant but is not UV proof. Most of the liners on the market are made of two main components: Isocyanate and resin. Most of the anti-UV chemicals and the "100% aliphatic..." is in the resin. The mistake with liners is that the isocyanate, not the resin, causes the liner to be UV unstable. That's the reason why the "100% aliphatic, guaranteed not to fade" liners still DO fade.


There are UV topcoats available, I don't recommend them. Rhino's flakes off and I don't care for LINE-X's. Don't waste your $. You can keep your liner looking good by putting Just Once or 303 Aerospace on it 4 or 5 times a year.





Edited by: TruckDaddy

GMC-2002-Dmax
06-30-2004, 09:14 PM
TruckDaddy,


I got a bottle of something the LINE-X dealer gave me when I had it done........


I have never looked at it since.........http://dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif


I might try to shine it up this weekend........


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bluenote
06-30-2004, 10:27 PM
Line-X advertises a tensile strength of up to 6,600 psi, I guess they must be lying?

TruckDaddy
07-01-2004, 09:55 AM
Where did you see or hear about the 6,600 psi tensile strength? I would be happy to talk to the source and find out where they are coming from. Thanks

03GMC2500HD
07-01-2004, 11:35 AM
All the liners out there do the job they were intended to do. Some hold up better than others but that would depend on how much, how hard, and where they are used. My brother has a Rhino liner in his work truck and it holds up extremely well with all the stuff that drug in/out of it. It looks chalky white though and IMO doesn't look very good. Line-X looks great but in the same construction applications I have seen them destroyed rather quickly. I personally go for the looks because I don't haul much in my truck so I was stuck on Line-X until i found Superliner. It looks very similar to the Line-X and IMO looks even better than the Line-X which is hard to do. I did see a work truck that had one in it for the past three years and it still had that new shine to it and no fading. They have a written 100% gaurantee not to fade and graphics can be added to them also. it was actually cheaper than the Line-X too. So far i am very happy with the Superliner and get nothing but compliments on it, even from those that have other sprayed in liners!

TruckDaddy
07-01-2004, 02:49 PM
It's good to have choices, glad your happy with your liner!


I've only heard of two issues with Superliner. First, they do fade but the process is slower than other liners (which to me is a GOOD thing) and second, there seems to be a durability issue. Superliner is very soft (Shore A 85) and tends to get beat up with heavy use. I don't remember all of the forums where I read that except for Superliner's own website; read their "chat" forum.


Here's one thread on their website from March '04:


I AM A NEW SUPERLINER DEALER IN MONTANA, I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PRODUCT. I HAVE SHOT A COUPLE PICKUPS AND HAVE HAD GREAT SUCCESS. I HAVE A CUSTOMER THAT HAD AN APPOINTMENT WITH A LINEX DEALER AND IS CONSIDERING MY PRODUCT. THE ONLY PROBLEM HE IS HAVING IS THE DURABILITY. HE HAS BEEN TOLD THAT YOU CAN RUN A SNOWMOBILE IN THE BACK WITH CARBIDE SKIS AND NOT DAMAGE THE LINEX LINER. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHARP WILL CUT SUPERLINER. PLEASE HELP ME IN SUPPORTING THE FACT THAT HE NEEDS SUPERLINER OVER LINEX. THANK YOU.


SuperLiner did not reply...at all.


Edited by: TruckDaddy

2MuchFun
07-02-2004, 12:25 PM
AH yes! that product 'just once' is Really cool stuff too!


I use it on the roof of my camper to protect it without collecting dust and also on my running boards. I nearly busted my rear using my ol' favorite Meguires but the Just Once is not slippery at all once it dries!


Also motorcycle seats and even TIRES!Edited by: 2MuchFun

03GMC2500HD
07-03-2004, 11:36 AM
TruckDaddy you must have a bedliner fetish!


Never seen anyone so obsesed with this type of product before. I've seen you on other sites stroking the Line-X product too with all the same mumbo jumbo your preaching here. Who cares? I wonder who told the guy the carbide skies of a snowmobile would not cut the Line-X. Hum lets see you think it was a Line-X dealer trying to get business? I see no reason for you to keep coming back on here editing your posts only to make other peoples decisions look stupid if they don't go with LIne-X.


I think we all agree that Line-X is one of the best liners available so why not give your "Ford vs. Chevy" bashing a rest!

2MuchFun
07-04-2004, 10:53 AM
Thats a good point actually,


Between Line-x and Rhino, I really think it's just a matter of personal choice; Do you like the hard rough finish or a more rubberized finish...


For 99.8% of us, either liner is going to serve very well >>Look good, prevent slipping and scratching


(I had no idea they had ASTM testing, tensile strengths, temp. etc..


Who cares? Its a freakin bed liner!)