Good morning, well maybe not. Thought I would have my local dealer change my feul filter while I was there, two hours later they come tell me my truck will not start and it would be Monday before they could fix it. Well I let them have a piece of my mindhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif (prior trouble). They finally got it to run, brought it back out front running so I get in and go home. Later it wil not start back so I have to manually pump the primer on two different times to get it to start. Well today (Sunday) the truck will not start and will not primehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif, I have opened the bleeder screw and pumped till I can't push any more and no feul will come out? Any ideas before I have it towed?

Retighten the filter........


Sounds like you are sucking in air.........


Causing a NO-START.............these are vaccum draw fuel systems.......so any air leak and you are not going to start or run.


Thttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Geek.gifNY

sounds like the primer pump has takenn a dump on you, I had it happen on an 02 model

When I push down on the pump I hear it push out air and then you hear it pull air back in when I release it.

My guess would be the o-ring has been pushed out of it's groove. Remove the filter and check the large o-ring on top to make sure it is seated correctly. If found to be OK I'd then investigate the smaller o-ring where the WIF sensor is attached.There is one on the bleeder screw also. You might want to make sure the drain cock is completely shut off also.
On Edit: you mention you opened the bleeder screw and were unable to push any fuel fuel out? Are you feeling resistance at the primer plunger? If you are feeling resistance you may not have the bleeder screw backed out enough.Edited by: TC Dmax

I checked the filter, upon inspection I was able to turn it by hand with little effort so I took it off. The top O-ring looks too big to me, I don't see how it would have been seated, so I am waiting for the napa store to open and just start over myself. Oh, TC Dmax there is no resistance at the bleeder screw. I think and hope that the chevy mechanic just messed up and that is the only problem not the primer pump. Thanks for the help, will let you know if the new filter works.

Just how much did you pay this wonderful service department for the privilege of spending your father's day up to your elbows in diesel??http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gif

my guess is the tech use the old o-ring the new on is a little "small"has to strech to fit into place.the old one will act a little big.the force of tightining squshes the o-ring and the fuel will cause it to swell
a tad bit.I thing to tech wanted the .8 hr and slam bam
thanks come again.where are you at and which dealer was it....patrick

Well I put on the new filter, still will not prime, I even took it back off and filled it up with feul and tried it again, still will not prime. They charged 41.00 by the way. Looks like they will be paying for it to be towed back to them in the morning. Any more ideas??? http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

If I recall correctly there is a small o-ring gasket on the inside of the of the fuel filter and maby the old one is still in place keeping you from tightening up the new filter. Just a thought. You may be able to prime the system by blowing some comperssed air in the fuel tank at low pressure. I have never done this but I have read where others have. Edited by: Blue Max

windermax
How many times are you pumping the primer button? It could take over 100 pumps if you have lost the prime back to the tank. Did you pour fuel into the clean side of the filter? If so I'd refrain from doing that in future since you will be blasting an unfiltered load of fuel straight into the injectors.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

Over 100 pumps! Man I don't know if my hand will last that long http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif, but I will give it a try, need to get my truck going.

You probably already tried this but make sure the bleeder screw is lose enough. I opened the bleeder once, what I thought was plenty, and after many pumps and no fuel, backed it off a couple more turns and worked fine.

Well I have pumped and pumped took the bleeder screw completely out and still will not prime. Looks like she will take a ride on the roll back in the morning http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gif

I would reinstall the filter the dealer put on before I called them for roll back and be quiet about the one you installed.


Also, when you are reinstalling the dealer's filter you should check as has been mentioned about the center O-ring.

Very similar thing happened to me. I bought my '02 used with 20K miles so I decided that the filter probably should be changed. When I removed the filter it was full of crap. After installing the new filter I couldn't get it primed. What I eventually determined is that when I removed the old filter, contaminates entered the fuel filter housing and clogged everything up. The filter housing had to be removed and cleaned - over two hours. Good luck.

Well go figure, chevy roadside comes to get the truck, he trys to


start the engine, nothing, so off she goes. Well that afternoon I stop


by to see what was wrong and the dealer says nothing? What?


Yeah the truck started right up for them. http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif No problems since then


either. Who knows, I guess the ride on the roll back fixed it huh.

He's not telling you the truth.......probably too embarrassed.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Embarrased.gif

Hey Folks,


How about we start naming names of these incompetents that we are entrusting our large investments to? Knowledge is power, and knowing whom to trust with our D'Max's is very valuable! When a service dept screws up, spread the word. When a dealer goes the extra mile to make things right, spread the word too!


Ahhh, the power of the pen, it's an amazing thing!


So I'll start it off, Knott & Geisbert in Urbana, MD has given me excellent warranty service on my truck.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gif


Ideal GMC in Frederick, MD has not, and made me feel like a red headed stepchild since I bought my truck elsewhere.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Angry.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cry.gifhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Dead.gif

Medved in Castle Rock, Colorado has treated me poorly, but does fine work.


One good thing to say about them, The Service Manager has gone a loooooooong way to try and make me happy. The Service Advisors are bums!

For those of us who don't know -
Would you describe the differences between a service manager and a service advisor?

Thanks,
HBruns

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Clap.gifIberville Motors in Plaquemine, La. are great. Mickey the service manager and Melissa the service writer have always went the extra mile to make sure my wife and I are satisfied no mater which one of us goes in.(even though my wife's suburban did'nt come from their)


correct me if I'm wrong, But. Service Manager runs everything, the service writer mainly writes up work orders ect.. The service manager has the final say on what happens if you have a problem or whether or not they go the extra mile.

I too have had problems in the past with a service manager. I chose to take my truck to another dealer. I have not had a single problem that they couldn't take care of. If you don't have access to the Techs back in the shop you don't have a clue how sharp most of these guys are. There are hundreds of different models/makes/years etc. that they have to repair. They have to be good mechanics as well as electronic Techs. I started my mechanical career as an automotive mechanic and then as a Millwright. I don't think I could do their job. Later! Frank http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Cool.gif

For those of us who don't know -
Would you describe the differences between a service manager and a service advisor?

Thanks,
HBruns


Advisors work for the one manager.

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