Blue Max
06-19-2004, 02:58 AM
Well I installed my lift pump today and hopfully this will cure any air problems I may have had. It's hard to believe those little pumps will last 50 to 80K. I noticed they do get a little warm when they run. How hot will they get on a warm day. How does one decide when it's time to put in another pump? I guess I'll just put in a new one every 50K or so.
jbplock
06-19-2004, 06:35 AM
Blue Max,
Interesting observation on the pump getting warm.. I never thought to check that. Are you using the AC Delco pump? Had the truck been running for a while before you checked it? Since the Dmax recirculates excess fuel from the injectors, the fuel in the the tank can also get fairly warm. I had one of the AC pumps fail on my 98 K3500 6.5 at about 60kmiles. They stop pumping but will still flow fuel. It's a common failure the 6.5's. In past TDP discussions there was speculation that adding a filter in front of the pump would prolong their life. This is the main reason I added a stanadyne 30 micron pre-filter (http://community.webshots.com/photo/77018086/143154350CzJEWK) in front of mine. Also since adding the lift pump timer (http://community.webshots.com/photo/77018086/143154350CzJEWK) I can hear the pump running during the glow cycle so I know it' still working.
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Blue Max
06-19-2004, 06:47 PM
Hey Bill, I just had the truck idling for 15 minutes or so and was laying under the truck to make sure nothing leaked. The pump gets a little warm not hot by any means. The lines in and out of the pump were cool and so was the return line. I have a 50 gallon transfer flow tank in the bed and filter all the fuel from that tank into the main tank and when I fill the truck it normally doesn't take much to fill the main tank. After the fuel goes round and round a few times and goes thru 3 filters I wouldn't think it would be to dirty. I may have to get another pump and cut it in half just to see how it works. My pump is an AC Delco EP309 and I am running with no bypass just for your information. Thanks for your help on some questions in another thread. I wired her up with 12 ga. wire so I shouldn't have any voltage drop and I put a waterproof plug like the factory uses for quick changes in the future. Thanks for your help, Mike-
HBruns
06-19-2004, 08:59 PM
Blue Max,
Would you post some info about your lift pump installation? I'm coming to the conclusion that I need one. So far I have had only one stall right after startup due to air in the KD Mega Filter, and I'd like to prevent further problems.
Thanks,
HBruns
Blue Max
06-20-2004, 12:49 PM
Hey HB, my install is nothing special and I think if you look at JBPLOCKS install pictures and part lists you will have a very good idea of what you need to do. I did not install an oil pressure switch at this time but may do so in the future. ( I don't plan to crashhttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif ) I had removed all the slip joint fuel lines on my truck along time ago so all I had to do was install the pump at the end of the rubber line and add a new piece of line on the down stream end of the pump and hook it back up to the existing steel fuel line. I did vary from what most of the guys are doing however by mounting the pump on the bottom of the cab by making a little aluminum bracket and strapping the pump on with a worm gear clamp. I used rubber between all of the metal parts to eliminate the possibility of unwanted vibrating sounds in the cab. I guess it worked because you can't here the pump at all and have to touch it to see if it is running. I mounted the pump where I did because I didn't want to cut the factory steel fuel line in case I ever wanted to return it to stock. It is not as pretty as some of the installs others have posted but it works well. I may change it later after the warranty runs out but I am expecting to have to have my injectors replaced and when that happens I will probably remove the pump before I take it in for repairs to help eliminate one point of warranty denial. I think my truck does run a little harder now with the pump installed but it could just be my imagination. If you have any further questions just ask but I think others have done nicer looking installs at this time and like I said I will probably change my pump location to inside the frame rail in the future when the warranty runs out unless I just get to lazy.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Big Smile.gif I had never had any fuel problems with my Mega untill a couple of weeks ago when pulling my trailor I had a high speed miss or something. After bleeding the air out a couple of times the problem has not returned but I don't want to have problems on the road so I installed the pump as insurance, time will tell if it was the right decision. I think that a pump should be used just for principal in the fuel system. Edited by: Blue Max