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farmboy1989
09-25-2006, 10:53 PM
How do i hook up a manual glow plug controller on my 94 6.5 with an F engine? What color wires do what on the relay and what wires will i want to use to hook up the switch ? Tell me what wires do what on the relay. Tell me how exactly to hook the whole thing up.We have put one on a 5.7 diesel before but it was much more simple. Thanks.

CanadianDiesel
09-25-2006, 11:06 PM
hehehe, easy stuff.

parts needed: wire, relay with pigtail, momentary switch and proper connectors. solder and shrinktube. fuse and two hands.

with most relays you have the following numbers on the underside of the relay, 30, 86, 85, 87 and 87A

you don't need 87A ( usually red wire)

hook up 85 to ground ( black wire usually)
hook up 30 to positive ( usually blue)
and also run a wire from blue wire to button on dash ( make sure its FUSED!!!)
run another wire from switch on dash back to relay number 86 (usually white) this will activate the relay when you need the glowplugs.

run the final wire ( usually yellow) to the glowplug controller and its the far passenger side terminal to hook up to.

so in following

30- positive (fused) (blue) with wire to switch in dash aswell
85- ground (black)
86- switch back to relay ( white)
87- to controller ( yellow)

i'll try to make a nice little picture... give me time

CanadianDiesel
09-25-2006, 11:17 PM
picture timehttp://www.dieselplace.com/forum/garage.php?do=big&p=16738

ronniejoe
09-25-2006, 11:57 PM
Don't need a relay. Don't need more than about $5.00. I wrote an article on The Diesel Page. It's online in the members area.

CanadianDiesel
09-26-2006, 12:02 AM
you don't really need one but i don't like the idea of having that much power going to a switch, would rather use another switch for that and use a push button as a trigger. safer i believe

as long as its fused

hddamage
09-26-2006, 09:30 AM
members area costs money ... no thanks. i would rather spnd a day digging gp heads out of the combustion chambers than pay to see members area of a forum.... not even porn!

Bumpin' Yota
09-26-2006, 09:51 AM
members area costs money ... no thanks. i would rather spnd a day digging gp heads out of the combustion chambers than pay to see members area of a forum....

EXACTLY!

ronniejoe
09-26-2006, 10:30 AM
Well, then you won't see that you don't need to send high power to a switch, can use 18 ga wire and a light duty switch to do the job. You really don't know what you're missing.

It's not a member's area in a forum. It's a subscription to an on-line magazine and it only costs $19.95 per year. Much less money than what it will cost you to dig burned out glow plug tips out of cylinder heads...

Cheapskates.

CanadianDiesel
09-26-2006, 09:02 PM
wierd all it is is the garage, under the second truck i posted, theres a picture there that i made. nothing fancy and everyone should be able to look at it, with out paying for anything.

chrisk1500
11-26-2006, 09:53 PM
I had a hard time starting this morning - long story short - always check the circuit breakers in the house when you plug your truck in outside......

When you say to connect to the far passenger side terminal we are talking about the large brass terminal on the GP controller correct?

Does the glow plug light come on when the switch is turned on?

Is this override safe? It seems to me that both you and Rigger lost your engines and your both using this same type of override....:p:

jifaire
11-26-2006, 10:29 PM
I had a hard time starting this morning - long story short - always check the circuit breakers in the house when you plug your truck in outside......



Now, I'm SURE I remember us having this conversation, Chris.....

So I take it you never got your JD Intake heater installed?

chrisk1500
11-26-2006, 10:33 PM
Hehe....too much on the go my friend......went home Friday night and plugged the truck in......tried to start it this morning and it was a 'no-go'.....turns out the circuit breaker had tripped at some point in time (must have been in the fall when I was using some power tools outside).....anyways - flipped the breaker and let the truck heat up for an hour.....if the wind was blowing the right way I am sure you would have seen the cloud of white head over to AB.....

This morning got me thinking about a GP override......the intake heater is on my 'to do' list for this spring.....it'll make next winter easier...

quantum mechanic
11-27-2006, 10:59 AM
Yeah, I couldn't see paying either, the best things in life are free, like figuring something out for yourself.
I'm not sure how RJ wired his since the info wasn't presented but refered to, but Putting a $6 starter solenoid and a .50 momentary switch on the pink/blk wire to the GP's works.

ronniejoe
11-27-2006, 11:25 AM
Yeah, I couldn't see paying either, the best things in life are free, like figuring something out for yourself.
I'm not sure how RJ wired his since the info wasn't presented but refered to, but Putting a $6 starter solenoid and a .50 momentary switch on the pink/blk wire to the GP's works.

The forum side of TDP is free. The content, or magazine side, is not. It's a magazine subscription, that's all.

I wrote a full article with photo documentation, wiring diagrams and install instructions. You'd find a wealth of information there besides how to wire in a manual glow control without extra relays.

In fact, much of the 6.5 information in your reference section here was originally generated and posted there. How much of it has had the source identified and properly credited?

Turbine Doc
11-27-2006, 12:40 PM
Ron.

NONE of the content here was BORROWED or stolen or anything else from there. Mr. Bigley & myself have had lengthy discussions and emails on the matter, I have to best of my knowledge removed anything that could be considered as borrowed from there, and also agreed that if there was anything he deemed as proprietary to his site that I would remove it at his request.

You are welcome to stay and post but if just coming to stir the pot; cease and desist, it is not becoming of you.

Please use PM if you feel you need to comment further on the matter

Dan Hunter
11-27-2006, 01:02 PM
In fact, much of the 6.5 information in your reference section here was originally generated and posted there. How much of it has had the source identified and properly credited?

Spectacularly offensive on so many levels! Really, unparalleled! TD, you have the patience of Job and are a fine example of what's good about this forum.

gmctd
11-27-2006, 02:10 PM
Well - rj does have a valid point, there.

The Place did sort of 'borrow' Turbine Doc, and ratdoc, and tommac, and CharlieP, along with many others who come and go, regularly, but freely willing to offer aid and succor, as and where required - and let's not forget that bumbling buffoon of bombastic blarney, ole gmctd hisself.

In matters of fact, the last aforementioned dude above ^ even went so far as to proudly display his origins - from whence he commenced to crossover - in his sig, for all the public to see.

And that big GMC EFI 6.5TD 4wd Crew Cab in his sig was personally hand-built over Fall-Winter of 1999, way long B4 the dude even had access to a PC with internet access, or had ever heard of the Page - talk about yer knowledge forged in the fires of experience, that'll do it, fer sure!

So, what to do, what to do........agonize........worry........consternate. ......ohhh, the accusations, the insinuations...............

Ahhhh, who cares? The technical assistance is freely given, here and there, and everywhere - if not wanted, skip over the post and read the next one.

But, if ya wanna control it, pay fer it - then it becomes yer interllectibal proppity.

moondoggie
02-03-2007, 12:50 PM
Good Day!

hddamage: ”…members area costs money ... no thanks. i would rather spnd a day digging gp heads out of the combustion chambers than pay to see members area of a forum…”

Bumpin' Yota: ”EXACTLY!”

quantum mechanic: ”Yeah, I couldn't see paying either, the best things in life are free...

I'm glad my employer doesn't see things your way. I've grown rather accustomed to being paid for my work. :D (It's probably a good thing he doesn't realize how little he gets for his $$$$$. :eek: )

quantum mechanic (again): ”...like figuring something out for yourself.” 10-4 on that.

For myself, I don't mind paying $20 a year for what I get. I'd visit here more often, but this Place is often solidly into "R"-rated territory, the Page stays pretty much around PG. As a committed prude, that works better for me. :) To each his own.

BTW, ronniejoe's ckt has a significant benefit - it'll never set a code, at least on a 95 truck.

Blessings!

chrisk1500
02-03-2007, 01:24 PM
Mine throws no codes either.....

Interesting how we are having the same argument on 'both' pages/places....

EDIT - Here is a link to a quick 'how-to' I wrote about the GP override....Free of charge of course...

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129636

CanadianDiesel
02-03-2007, 09:06 PM
and if you really want the parts you can ask really nicely and one of us (usually me) will build you a complete circuit with relay and ship it to ya no charge. some things in life are free, just don't screw over the guy that gave you the gift.

moondoggie
02-05-2007, 11:26 AM
Good Day!

chrisk1500: ”Mine throws no codes either.....” I think it might on 95 & newer trucks, I’m not sure. Your's is a 94, so you might not have this problem. FYI... :)

Blessings!

chrisk1500
02-05-2007, 11:38 AM
If this style threw codes I don't think SS Diesel would sell it.....my 2 cents...