My truck was stolen ! It almost made it to the boarder , what is the best theft deturant , besides a chain with a pit bull ! fuel pump shut off ??

Put a switch inline with the ignition. Hide it somewhere where it's easy to get to. A buddy of mine rigged a push on/off switch and put it under his seat.

I was also wondering about this. They tried to get my truck last week but quit after they destroyed both door locks and handles.

Mr. Bean removed his steering wheel when he parked his car.:)

How do the thieves start these trucks. I thought the key had to be in the ignition for it to start. This prevents cramming a screwdriver in the ignition slot and twisting it to start like the older GM's. Hope yours wasn't too damaged. I scared of a car thief trying to get into my truck. He'd broken the door handle and was just getting ready to open the door. Unfortunately he drove off before I could catch him. He had a look-out.

I would be furious if I ever caught anyone stealing or attempting to steal my chit. This goes for any one of my vehicles....

F--- callin the cops....I'd handle it myself....I'd have them hogtied on the ground with my Springfield shoved into their ear.....Then I'd call.....

Two words: Trunk Monkey

Barrett M82A1 50 Cal.-- if necessary, you can shoot them thru from the opposite side of the truck, and/or other vehicle, and/or garage back wall and/or all of the above! Gets the truck theif but causes a bit of collateral damage. :eek: But seriously, a "hidden" switch on some crucial power or start circuit is good if you can make yourself allways activate it. I put a headlight telltale buzzer on mine to remind me to switch it on after key off. The real trick is to "hide" it in "plain sight" and within easy reach. I've used push/pull switches disguised as the cig lighter and used relays that were closed by activating multiple switches/devices simultaneously. i.e. brake and dome. Car theives usually shy away from turning on dome light switches....makes them a better target! ;)

I'm paranoid about losing my truck. I use a brake pedal lock, steering wheel lock and a column lock. If all that fails I have a Boomerang tracking system that automatically sends out a signal to a central and they send out a tracking team.

Paranoid?

This is the only system that my insurance company recognises and gives a discount for. They claim over 200,000 installed and not one reported theft. http://www.mastergard.com/products.htm

M6000 is the model.

I personally believe that this is the single most effective anti theft device out there. The only way they will get it with this installed is with a tow truck.

This is the only system that my insurance company recognises and gives a discount for. They claim over 200,000 installed and not one reported theft. http://www.mastergard.com/products.htm

M6000 is the model.

I personally believe that this is the single most effective anti theft device out there. The only way they will get it with this installed is with a tow truck.

I think my garage makes a damn good theft deturant

With EFILive we offer a switchable tune that you can alter the speed limiter on. So you could install a hidden switch that when activated limits the vehilce speed to 2, 10, 40 MPH, whatever you wish.

Cheers,
Ross

This is the only system that my insurance company recognises and gives a discount for. They claim over 200,000 installed and not one reported theft. http://www.mastergard.com/products.htm

M6000 is the model.

I personally believe that this is the single most effective anti theft device out there. The only way they will get it with this installed is with a tow truck.max,how much are those...I cannot find prices on their website?

EFILive can be setup with the DSP2 to work as a great antitheft device. You can set one tune as a killer race tune, and the other set to whatever max mph you would like, so, if you set the max mph at say 5, it would take the theives forever to get away. Just a thought!

This seems to be a good device. It kills multiple systems when I pull the plug and take it with me.

http://www.ravelco.com/

How about a fuel shut off valve right next to your secondary fuel filter?

EFILive with a "security" tune would work. When I left my truck at the airport in Nashville, I programmed one in. Set cranking Injection Quantity to all zeros and it will not start. no way around that, really, unless the crook just happened to have an ECM with VATS disabled...

This sounded like a pretty simple and effective system:

http://www.mastersentryseries.com/starter/product-overview.shtml

until I searched for availability for 4 diffferent vehicles and all came back as "not yet available". :mad:

Just retired from law enforcement (30 years). I use the brake lock, never seen one defeated ( but I have seen lots of "steering wheel clubs" lying in alleys, sawed off and stopped car thieves driving cars with steering wheels sawed open to get them off).

Just my .02 worth.

I steal cars for a livin. I am a repossession agent. I have yet to find a system that has prevented me from taking a car/truck/motorhome/boat/motorcycle/snowmachince/atv.

I can make my own keys right there on the spot. I have a tool that snaps "clubs" like they are made of balsa wood. I know how to disable 100% of oem security systems and a bunch of aftermarket systems. most of the rigs I take I drive away. but for that 10% that stump me or I just dont wanna d*ck with I have two different tow truck at my disposal. a 1ton selfloader and a c4500 slideback. and just ordered a 07 f550 with a selfloader set up(yeah I know a ford, but hey it has what I want and I'm gettin it damnit!!).

You will not take a vehicle with a mastergaurd on it without at least an hours time on your hands or without a tow truck.

a tow truck I have. I also have several premade harnesses and ecm's. I can unplug a ecm and plug mine in then vroom. and for mechanical diesels I have harneses set up so I can start a rig with out even touching the key. heck took a f350psd a on wed. it was so easy I almost took it back so I could do it again. the guy couldnt believe I was able to get it cause he pulled the ecu out when he parks it so it cant e stollen. HA

granted a system like that one u'r talking about would take some gettin used to. I;d need to see a few installed to figure out whats goin on. wish they had more info on the website its quite boring and un-informative about there product.

I steal cars for a livin. I am a repossession agent. I have yet to find a system that has prevented me from taking a car/truck/motorhome/boat/motorcycle/snowmachince/atv.

I can make my own keys right there on the spot. I have a tool that snaps "clubs" like they are made of balsa wood. I know how to disable 100% of oem security systems and a bunch of aftermarket systems. most of the rigs I take I drive away. but for that 10% that stump me or I just dont wanna d*ck with I have two different tow truck at my disposal. a 1ton selfloader and a c4500 slideback. and just ordered a 07 f550 with a selfloader set up(yeah I know a ford, but hey it has what I want and I'm gettin it damnit!!).

What have got that will disable a 12 ga loaded with slugs and buckshot? ):h

Here's some new anti-theft devices. Should provide to be useful.
http://www.stickdeath.com/

After you enter the site, click on the picture of the 2005 anti-theft devices.
Enjoy.

:help:

with that I would just have to be lucky and pop ya with my 45 first.:ro) had a guy come at me a few weeks ago with a 44mag. I never knew I could move that fast!!!! lucky for me he calmed down we had a little talk guns were put away and he surendered the rig and I drove it away with his keys. I'll tell ya that was a fun(NOT) evening.

What have got that will disable a 12 ga loaded with slugs and buckshot? ):h

So Murphyslaw.
I know there ways around all alarms and methods. What theft deturants do work better.

I personally believe that this is the single most effective anti theft device out there. The only way they will get it with this installed is with a tow truck.

:mad: they towed mine Censored Censored Censored Censored

Here's some new anti-theft devices. Should provide to be useful.
http://www.stickdeath.com/

After you enter the site, click on the picture of the 2005 anti-theft devices.
Enjoy.
thats all good until you forget to disarm it):h good stuff though

With EFILive we offer a switchable tune that you can alter the speed limiter on. So you could install a hidden switch that when activated limits the vehilce speed to 2, 10, 40 MPH, whatever you wish.

Cheers,
Ross

Does that mean EFILive is ready for the LBZ? :)

Does that mean EFILive is ready for the LBZ? :)
not yet;)

Trained rabid skunks has worked for me.

a tow truck I have. I also have several premade harnesses and ecm's. I can unplug a ecm and plug mine in then vroom. and for mechanical diesels I have harneses set up so I can start a rig with out even touching the key. heck took a f350psd a on wed. it was so easy I almost took it back so I could do it again. the guy couldnt believe I was able to get it cause he pulled the ecu out when he parks it so it cant e stollen. HA

granted a system like that one u'r talking about would take some gettin used to. I;d need to see a few installed to figure out whats goin on. wish they had more info on the website its quite boring and un-informative about there product.

There is a reason they don't publish it ;)

3 circuits are immobilized. You can swap ECU's all you want it isn't going to start it. You would have to bypass the 3 circuits and you'd be in for a surprise if you tried to to do it on one I installed. Our insurance company has been giving discounts for 7 years if you have them installed by their trained installers. They claim they have not had one stolen yet with it.

can they be available in the US. if these are so kick a&& I would be interested in one of 5 for my rigs.


from what I have experienced the brake locks are better. I have cut many clubs but those brakelocks are a lot stronger Had one a while back and tryed to use my club tool and it wouldnt break it.

also locking hook pins!!! if u disable something under the hood its easily fixed but If i cant get the hood open then I'm S O L and i would have to tow it.

I just went to the airport and got a F350 I had a key made but guess what it didnt work. so I used one of my door tools pop'd the rear slider lock crawled in the back unlocked the door. jumped out. opened the door poped the 4x4lever in neutral. jumped out hoped in the c3500selfloader grabed it by the front pulled it out the parking spot. put it down swung around to the rear picked it up straped it down and off I went took a whole 3min.

murphyslaw just out of curiosity how "good" is the GM Passlock 2 compared to other passive factory security systems on vehicles? Is it a somewhat decent attempt by GM or is it just a complete joke that could be bypassed in 2 minutes by any average idiot?? Whats the best factory system you have come across? Id imagine some of the latest mercedes, lexus, and BMW's have something pretty good...or no?

can they be available in the US. if these are so kick a&& I would be interested in one of 5 for my rigs.


from what I have experienced the brake locks are better. I have cut many clubs but those brakelocks are a lot stronger Had one a while back and tryed to use my club tool and it wouldnt break it.

also locking hook pins!!! if u disable something under the hood its easily fixed but If i cant get the hood open then I'm S O L and i would have to tow it.

I just went to the airport and got a F350 I had a key made but guess what it didnt work. so I used one of my door tools pop'd the rear slider lock crawled in the back unlocked the door. jumped out. opened the door poped the 4x4lever in neutral. jumped out hoped in the c3500selfloader grabed it by the front pulled it out the parking spot. put it down swung around to the rear picked it up straped it down and off I went took a whole 3min.


so if you have the brake lock can you still tow it? I geuss you could still winch it onto a flat deck:o:

murphyslaw just out of curiosity how "good" is the GM Passlock 2 compared to other passive factory security systems on vehicles? Is it a somewhat decent attempt by GM or is it just a complete joke that could be bypassed in 2 minutes by any average idiot?? Whats the best factory system you have come across? Id imagine some of the latest mercedes, lexus, and BMW's have something pretty good...or no?


we dont have passlock on our truck do we?

we dont have passlock on our truck do we?

yes we do

As long as you pay your car payment):h I would think that a hidden kill switch somewhere on the truck would deture most common thieves

Paranoid?

What do you mean by that?:D

murphyslaw just out of curiosity how "good" is the GM Passlock 2 compared to other passive factory security systems on vehicles? Is it a somewhat decent attempt by GM or is it just a complete joke that could be bypassed in 2 minutes by any average idiot?? Whats the best factory system you have come across? Id imagine some of the latest mercedes, lexus, and BMW's have something pretty good...or no?

I've told you many times ben but I guess you don't believe me :) passlock 2 is pretty much a complete joke. Since he is most likely getting keys cut when he is repoing it makes it that much more of a joke.

Passlock is better then nothing but not much.

I've told you many times ben but I guess you don't believe me :) passlock 2 is pretty much a complete joke. Since he is most likely getting keys cut when he is repoing it makes it that much more of a joke.

Passlock is better then nothing but not much.


that's what i was thinking

I use alot of keys. the passlock is totaly a waste of resources.

the brakelocks are good but I can still tow it The oneton has dollys I can cradle it and with the flat bed I'll just winch it up.

the thing that most ppl over look is the rear slider. above all that is the easiest way to get in a truck.

to the common person a brake lock will keep it from moving. the problem is some vehicles wont kill the brakelights even when the key is off.

the clubs are weak, dont waste ur money.

aftermarket alarms do ok. as long as u cant get under the hood. it only takes a pocket knife and a few sec to kill one. that goes back to the locking hood pins.

I have used a very uncommon aproach to securing my offroader. when I had my driveway poured I had a 5'x'5 1" thick plate put under the slab with 4 big anchors welded to it sticking up just a tad with "pockets" around them. I would park my truck over this plate and chain each wheel to an anchor. walking up to the truck you cant see the chains. I had a guy try to steal it one night got in started it up tryed to back out the drive and it moved all about 2ft. he took a while backing up and going forward tryin to figure out why it wasnt goin anyware. I looked out the window and saw it. grabed my 45 calmy walked out the front door walked up to the truck opened the door put it in his face and said "well tonight isnt ur night is it?". got the police over and so on so forth. I loved that system but now I keep it in the garage. I tied the wheels cause then no one could easily take my very expensive tires. oh and it helps I am a VERY LIGHT sleeper.


The transponder equiped cars and trucks are very cool, exp for me cause it makes my job harder. U can unlock the car put the key in and start it but it only runs about 3sec then will shut off. if u do this 3 times with a non coded key the car will not start anymore even with the correct key. you have to take it to the dealer and have it reprogramed.

this is the same with the "century" system on chrysler/dodge rigs.

there are many good systems, but as far as I know There is a way around MOST. Tho I have yet been able to "test" a good deal of them since i mostly work with NEW rigs. the oldest rig I have repo's in the last year was a '91 escort. and I mean common how cant u not make that payment it was only 300 bucks behind my repo fee was more then that!

do you bypass the passlock with a cut key? or actually wire in a set of resistors etc..?

obviously with the cut key its simple with passlock. The GMT-900's have Passkey III which actually do have a transponder and is a much more sophisticated system.

My truck was stolen ! It almost made it to the boarder , what is the best theft deturant , besides a chain with a pit bull ! fuel pump shut off ??
Get a trunk monkey.:lol:

preferably a high caliber firearm 45 and a 50 cal if you can get one

passlock equiped rigs If I have the key codes I will make a key and do up the resitor as well.

Havnt had a chance to get any rigs with the pk2 but I'm guessin that I would just have to tow those.

one of the dealers I work with when They sell a car they keep one of the transpondered keys, then if they want me to repo it, they give me that key.

Sounds like AK and a lot of other area suck to live in........

It sucks that you guys have to go through all that trouble to lock a vehicle up so it can't be stolen.

I guess I am lucky where I live we do not have trouble like that.

:eek:

Sounds like AK and a lot of other area suck to live in........

It sucks that you guys have to go through all that trouble to lock a vehicle up so it can't be stolen.

I guess I am lucky where I live we do not have trouble like that.

:eek:

Yet

I have a duffle bag to take into the house at night
anything that is not bolted down basicly

i had my window smashed so they could steal my 60.00 cell phone:(
they threw all my reciepts that where in my consule on the ground
luckily it was raining that night, cut the seats up from the glass
Censored crack heads

how about pulling a fuse or 2 ,to shut off the ing or the fuel?,,any thoughts

I live in a small town of Kent, CT.

No public transportation, no private taxi's , no way for less desirables to get to my town unless they have a car.

Most of the crackheads stay in big cities and poor depressed areas, which I live far away from.

In 10 years in the house I am in we have never had any trouble, and I don't forsee any in the near future either.

I drive a long way to work in my trade so i don't have to deal with the POS's in society.

The problem is if you shoot them you will get in trouble, the best thing you can do is kill them so you do society a favor......):h

I put mine in the garage and have never had a problem.

i live in one of those places too - very little crime - but you still get the bored teens on meth tho. When i used to live in the city, i used to just drive heaps so no one messed with them, but i gues thats just giving up. you couldn't do it with a diesel really. but a coil grounded to the frame sure F's with people tryin to get in your rig.

If all the theft deterrent systems are questionable, would LoJack be a good investment?