Due to the impending arrival of EFILive's FlashScan V2 product, we are having a Runout Sale to clear our remaining FlashScan V1 stock.

This is not any normal runout sale, it is the first stage of a whole new pricing and licensing scheme for the entire EFILive FlashScan range of products.

The following price changes are effective from Monday September 18, 2006 until stocks run out.
The EFILive FlashScan Commercial product has been reduced from $849.00 to just $549.00
The EFILive FlashScan Personal product is no longer available.
The EFILive Personal to Commercial upgrade has been reduced from $150 to just $50.00.:D


We all know the feeling of making a purchase and then seeing that item discounted the following week. While one expects market fluctuations over time, any sizable and immediate discount is always disappointing, especially when there is little chance of recovering the discount. At EFILive we pride ourselves on delivering innovative solutions and we believe this solution is no exception.
To mitigate recent discounts, EFILive is offering all customers who purchased the following FlashScan V1 products between 18th August 2006 and 17th September 2006 (inclusive) the following:
FS-Personal: One complimentary PCM License valued at $99.
FS-Personal to Commercial upgrade: One complimentary PCM License valued at $99.
FS-Personal AND FlashScan Personal to Commercial upgrade: Three complimentary PCM Licenses valued at $297.
FS-Commercial: Three complimentary PCM Licenses valued at $297.The additional licenses can be added to your existing FlashScan V1 cable, or if you choose to upgrade to FlashScan V2 when it is available, the license(s) can be added to your FlashScan V2 cable. This value-add offer MUST be exercised before December 18 2006. To receive your additional license(s) please contact your reseller.

Note: Licenses cannot be transferred from FlashScan V1 to FlashScan V2 cables. Please choose carefully the option that is right for you.

EFILive FlashScan is widely recognized as the industry standard in PC based, scanning, data logging, and tuning for GM's OBDII performance vehicles. EFILive continues to enhance the FlashScan range of products, increasing the value of your purchase through regular FREE software updates. Coupled with great customer service, responsive forum support and a first class reseller network, your investment in EFILive FlashScan will continue to grow in the weeks, months and years ahead.

Please note: Products purchased during the runout sale will incur higher upgrade fees than products purchased prior to the runout sale.

Regards
Paul Blackmore
EFILive Limited

Man I could absolutely puck.

That is such a deal, yet I can't do it due to lack of funds. :(

Any lay aways? :D


Are the distributors also gonna warrant these new prices or are all items strictly bought through you all for this?

Finally, just how long is this sale anticipated to last?


C-ya

wait I thought we COULD transfer our licenses to the V2 if we upgraded to V2?? So my 4 licenses on my V1, if I upgrade to V2, will be worthless? :(

ben

SoCal Diesel will honor all the new pricing levels. :D

I am with Ben on this.. I thought we could move license over??? what gives??

This is kinda good and bad...
SoCal Diesel will honor all the new pricing levels. glad I bought mine this week....

One thing I still don't get is you say you cover GM's OBDII performance vehicles BUT you don't cover the 96 LT1 OBDII Camaro

EFILive FlashScan is widely recognized as the industry standard in PC based, scanning, data logging, and tuning for GM's OBDII performance vehicles. EFILive continues to enhance the FlashScan range of products, increasing the value of your purchase through regular FREE software updates. Coupled with great customer service, responsive forum support and a first class reseller network, your investment in EFILive FlashScan will continue to grow in the weeks, months and years ahead.

Regards
Paul Blackmore
EFILive Limited

Personally I wouldn't transfer my licenses over except maybe the one for my truck. I dont' want to fill up the slots on two pieces of hardware.

Since I don't own EFI Live yet, I'm a little confused on the V1 versus the V2. What will actually change?

Will it be an upgradeable feature, or will the V1 just become obsolete?

Personally I wouldn't transfer my licenses over except maybe the one for my truck. I dont' want to fill up the slots on two pieces of hardware.
V2 will not have a limit on the number of licences you can have on one cable, at least that's what they told me.

wait I thought we COULD transfer our licenses to the V2 if we upgraded to V2?? So my 4 licenses on my V1, if I upgrade to V2, will be worthless? :(

ben

The original post is I made was not clear on V1->V2 license transfers (sorry). This quote from our V2 price list (not released yet) explains it in more detail.

(Please note, the term PCM license will change to VIN License for FlashScan V2, since the licenses are not really for just PCMs.)

License Transfers From V1 To V2 Cables

PCM Licenses from V1 cables cannot be transferred to VIN Licenses on V2 cables. If any customer requires PCM licenses to be transferred, then the donor V1 cable must be returned to EFILive prior to the V2 recipient cable being shipped. EFILive will transfer the PCM licenses from the V1 cable to VIN Licenses on the V2 cable. All shipping fees are to be paid by the customer. EFILive will not charge for the V1->V2 transfer service.
It is not yet confirmed if the license transfers will only be available via EFILive or whether the EFILive reseller network will also be able to perform the transfers.
Obviously the transfer issue does not effect EFILive FlashScan Workshop customers.

Regards
Paul

Any lay aways? :D

Not from EFILive, but maybe a reseller might do that for you.

Are the distributors also gonna warrant these new prices or are all items strictly bought through you all for this?

Yes, these prices are available from our resellers from Monday.

Finally, just how long is this sale anticipated to last?

How long is a piece of string? (Yeah I know, twice as long as half a piece of string). Depends how many customers purchase our runout stock. EFILive keeps hundreds of units in stock (we've got 500 V2 units just arrived and we need to make room...) so it might last 'til Christmas.

Regards
Paul

Blacky,

Thanks for clearing up the Licensing transfer from V1-V2.

Guys,

I have updated my web site to reflect the latest pricing. These shipments will begin on Monday.

Since I don't own EFI Live yet, I'm a little confused on the V1 versus the V2. What will actually change?

Will it be an upgradeable feature, or will the V1 just become obsolete?

V1 will no longer be manufactured, it will be fully supported for at least the next 12 months probably longer. There is an upgrade path.

To upgrade from V1 to V2:
if you purchased V1 prior to Sep 18, 2006 will cost $399 ($299 if you purchase in the first month of V2 sales).
If you purchased V1 on or after Sep 18, 2006 will cost $399 ($299 if you purchase in the first month of V2 sales) plus $150 to cover the runout discount. Note, that the runout discount is $300 ($849 down to $549), but you will only pay an extra $150 when upgrading to V2 so you still save $150 if you eventually decide to upgrade to V2. If you don't upgrade to V2 then you'll pocket the full $300 discount.Regards
Paul

One thing I still don't get is you say you cover GM's OBDII performance vehicles BUT you don't cover the 96 LT1 OBDII Camaro :nutkick: Ouch I hear ya! There's not much we can do about that right now. It's not because we don't want to support them but because we will be lynched by the LBZ guys (and the LS2 guys) if we stop work on their tuning tool to go back and do the 96/97 F-Bodies. When GM stops churning out new controllers every other year we might get a chance to go back and catch-up.

One tiny piece of good news is that V2 will eventually support scanning for OBDI vehicles.

Regards
Paul

V2 will not have a limit on the number of licences you can have on one cable, at least that's what they told me.

Close, it is actually limited to 220 licenses and 120 streams - even the almighty Infineon CPU has its limits. Well that's not true, we could have fitted over 8,000 licenses into it but we'd prefer to keep the memory for new firmware features :)

Regards
Paul

so if we do the "upgrade" to V2, we get to keep V1? Or send V1 back to you and we get V2 in exchange??

:think: i think i will have to re-read this when i'm awake....

so if we do the "upgrade" to V2, we get to keep V1? Or send V1 back to you and we get V2 in exchange??

You keep your V1. They are no good to us and if we required you to send them back we'd only be throwing them in the bin. I couldn't see all those V1's get tossed away when they are still very useful, even if they only get used as a spare Scan Tool :)

Regards
Paul

So which site sponser that sells this wants to offer me a law-away option good for a couple months? :D

Seriously, would any of the supporting site sponsors that are distributors of EFI Live willing to do this for me?


Thanks, EFI Live, this is a phenominal deal!! Hopefully (said with every finger and toe crossed) something will work out for me on this.


C-ya

So is the license deal the only difference from v1 to v2?

go figure... i bought mine 8-10-06

Since I don't own EFI Live yet, I'm a little confused on the V1 versus the V2. What will actually change?

Will it be an upgradeable feature, or will the V1 just become obsolete?


V2 does a whole lot and more. V2 can operate as a standalone logger, flasher and reader. It can log up to whatever a 2 GB SD disk can hold and more

Check here for an overview of V2

http://www.efilive.com/overview_flash2.aspx

Great, mine just got here Monday 9-11-06 $890 bucks later and I read this. WTF:mad: This sucks!

:drinking: Joey

Great, mine just got here Monday 9-11-06 $890 bucks later and I read this. WTF:mad: This sucks!

:drinking: Joey

You're eligible for 3 extra PCM Licenses now (worth $297), plus 2 extra licenses (worth $199) if/when you upgrade to FlashScan V2. Throw in the 2 licenses that are already on V2 and you'll end up with 7 extra licenses. collectively, they are worth $693 and will allow you to tune another 7 trucks, cars or Allison transmissions

Now if you don't need extra licenses I understand that's probably not much of a deal, but its the best offer we've got.

Regards
Paul

So when we upgrade within 12 months of release, we pay $299 for Version-2, and it has two licenses with it, right? But it is not really two licenses, because once we use the V-2 on the same ECM, or TCM, or PCM, we lose a license, right? So we then have two devices that work on the same vehicle. V-1, and V-2 on the same truck uses a license on both.:eek:

And for those of us that was told we would be taken care of if we buy Version-1, just got screwed because we bought a month ago.:(

V1 will no longer be manufactured, it will be fully supported for at least the next 12 months probably longer. There is an upgrade path.

To upgrade from V1 to V2:

if you purchased V1 prior to Sep 18, 2006 will cost $399 ($299 if you purchase in the first month of V2 sales).
If you purchased V1 on or after Sep 18, 2006 will cost $399 ($299 if you purchase in the first month of V2 sales) plus $150 to cover the runout discount. Note, that the runout discount is $300 ($849 down to $549), but you will only pay an extra $150 when upgrading to V2 so you still save $150 if you eventually decide to upgrade to V2. If you don't upgrade to V2 then you'll pocket the full $300 discount.Regards
Paul


The way I read this, and correct me if I am wrong. Is that you dropped the price $300 for the V1 and are gonna charge $300 for the upgrade. So what is the big deal? It's not a savings if you are gonna have to give the $300 you saved right back??

Sure is sounding like a hen house in here!


IMO they are still offering a product WAY less than anything the competition has. Oh wait, there is no competition so they are doing everyone justice by not charging $


1500 out the gate cause I'll guarantee they'd still be selling them just about as fast. Everything that is obtained with the purchase(s) is still worth every penny IMO. If some of you all don't agree, are you willing to try something else otherwise? I doubt it. So suck it up, they are doing their best and making phenominal products better everyday and offer unsurpassed support plus they are still offering great incentives as far as dollar value goes. it may not be the most ideal compensation but its still hundreds of dollars worth of incentives. I'd LOVE more than anything to be able to capitalize on this deal but I simply can't cause I don't have the funds right now. A month or so that may be different but not right at this moment. Hopefully this last supply of V1s sell out slow for my sake. :D ;)

Thats my $.02


I'll step down off my little box now. :D




BTW, if anyone wanting to step up to the V2 that doesn't want to keep their V1 stuff and wants to sell it cheap, let me know please. :D

The way I read this, and correct me if I am wrong. Is that you dropped the price $300 for the V1 and are gonna charge $300 for the upgrade. So what is the big deal? It's not a savings if you are gonna have to give the $300 you saved right back??
You missed part of it! No. one, the upgrade is not mandatory, and no. two, those that do up grade and got the $300 discount has to pay a total of $450 for it. So they will be paying a grand total of $1,000 for the Version-1 and Version-2, while the rest of us will be paying a grand total of $1,150, if we bought the V-1, then upgrade it to V-2 So you can look at it two ways,

#1 We (Those that bought prior to the sale date listed!) got ripped off,

or

#2, the ones buying now gets a much better deal.:(

I would like to weigh in on this if I can.........:eek:

Ross and Paul at EFI-LIVE did not have to build a software package for the LB7/LLY trucks, they did not have to support Allison, they did not have to offer DSP2..........but guess what ........ THEY DID.......:ro)

They gave everyone here an opportunity to do it themselves or have someone else do the tuning for them for free or for a price.

They expanded choices for all of us.

Now they have upped the ante and upgraded hardware and a bunch of you have complaints about it..........-:t -:t -:t

How about we do a lot less complaining and a lot more thanking for what we have........:exactly:

I think we all got a deal..........especially when we are all driving trucks worth $40-50K..........:)

JMHO........

I guess I should say something here after reading the announcement by EFILive that they are reducing the price on the EFILive V1.

I believe that EFILive is a bargain even if it cost $1700. It's abilities to datalog, tune, swap operating systems, and program Allisons is so much better than anything else out there that it's "useful value" to me is very high.

This is why I have deliberately pushed EFILive. When I find a good product, I have always told everyone.

But more to the point, I feel providing an unlocked racing tune to my customers is very valuable as well. Certainly nothing on the market today can touch the combo of a racing tune + EFILive at $849.

According to the EFILive announcement, anyone who has bought recently will be given additional licenses. So that will sweeten the pot even more.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I know some folk are a little miffed that EFILive is now available for less money, and I can understand that. It's human nature. But if you look at what you received for the money, I believe everyone did get a bargain, and they have received a "head start" over the future buyers. With a tool like this, experience is worth alot.

V2 will not be released for awhile yet. The V2 will have alot of "standalone" functionality that V1 does not. But V1 will always be able to git-er-done on LB7's and LLY's. V2 will be a big improvement (and a necessary one) over V1 since V1 cannot support the new Bosch computers or CAN interfaces in the latest cars and trucks.

The future of hotrodding involves dealing with digital engine controllers. What's funny is some of the folk who were the most "afraid" of doing their own programming are now some of the real hotshoes with EFILive. I'm proud of all of you for taking the time and risk to step into the future with EFILive.

Guys, at first glance you may not understand the whole price restructuring but it all works out the same in the end.

V1 used to be $849.00 An upgrade to V2 in the first 30 days of release is $299.00.

$849.00 + $299.00 = $1148.00

V1 is now $549.00. An upgrade with a $549.00 V1 to V2 will cost $599.00

$549.00 + $599.00 = $1148.00

All V1's sold at $549.00 have their serial numbers recorded as such.

For those of you that bought at $849.00 in the last 30 days EFILive is giving you 3 licenses ( at $99.00 each) to make up the difference between $549.00 and $849.00. However your serial number will now be treated as if you purchased at $549.00 and if you decide to upgrade to V2 at a later date you will pay $599.00 for the upgrade just as anyone else would that purchased at $549.00.

Clear as mud? :D

Cool down a little fellas...It happens all the time when a product gets update. I upgraded my Juice to Hot, ya know drop $225 send out your box for a few weeks and your done. Know they do it for $100 and just give you and unlock code...........

Looks like I'll be spending $550 I didn't count on this month:D

The way I read this, and correct me if I am wrong. Is that you dropped the price $300 for the V1 and are gonna charge $300 for the upgrade. So what is the big deal? It's not a savings if you are gonna have to give the $300 you saved right back??

Guys, at first glance you may not understand the whole the price restructuring but it all works out the same in the end.

V1 used to be $849.00 An upgrade to V2 in the first 30 days of release is $299.00.

$849.00 + $299.00 = $1148.00

V1 is now $549.00. An upgrade with a $549.00 V1 to V2 will cost $599.00

$549.00 + $599.00 = $1148.00

All V1's sold at $549.00 have their serial numbers recorded as such.

For those of you that bought at $849.00 in the last 30 days EFILive is giving you 3 licenses ( at $99.00 each) to make up the difference between $549.00 and $849.00. However your serial number will now be treated as if you purchased at $549.00 and if you decide to upgrade to V2 at a later date you will pay $599.00 for the upgrade just as anyone else would that purchased at $549.00.

Clear as mud? :D


That is basically what I said right?:)

So if I was to buy V1 right now for my LB7, I wouldn't really have to upgrade to V2 or am I wrong there too?:cool:

That is basically what I said right?:)

So if I was to buy V1 right now for my LB7, I wouldn't really have to upgrade to V2 or am I wrong there too?:cool:

No need to upgrade to V2 if you don't want to. ;)

So when we upgrade within 12 months of release, we pay $299 for Version-2, and it has two licenses with it, right?

The $299 deal is only for the first month only (not 12 months).

V2 comes with 2 licenses.
- plus two more if you upgrade from V1 Commercial.
- plus three more if you purchased V1 Commercial in the past month.

So you could get anywhere from 2 to 7 licenses - depending on your circumstances.

Regards
Paul

What a cluster Censored !


This is more confusing then a whores first day in the convent. :D

Paul, I think it would be wise to allow your resellers to transfer licenses from V1 to V2, as shipping costs to/from Australia would be very expensive, and time-consuming.


Guy, thanks for laying out the prices like that....it was very confusing originally.

No need to upgrade to V2 if you don't want to. ;)


Ok, one more question, been to EFI site, and it is also clear as mud, but what is V2 gonna give me with one truck, that the V1 which everyone has now and seems to be working fine.

What is my motivation to upgrade ever? Will it become obsolete as the upgrades keep coming?

Blacky,

I'm quoting this from your web site:
"Customers may upgrade any Personal or Commercial license from FlashScan V1.2 to FlashScan V2.0 for $399*. All PCM licenses will be transferred from your FlashScan V1.2 interface to the new FlashScan V2 interface. You must return your existing FlashScan V1.2 interface to EFILive to be eligible for the FlashScan V2 upgrade price."

How much of this has changed?

TIA.

Here's some perspective from EFILive's point of view.

Pricing the upgrades at $299 in the first month (which includes at least two licenses values at $198) is the absolute lowest price for which we can manufacture, package, and distribute FlashScan V2, without going backwards.
We did that, not because we had to but because we believe it is the right and fair thing to do - and we try to be fair in everything we do. Existing customers have supported us by buying our product. So we'll give something back by not gouging where we could have. We put the minimum price on a V2 upgrade that we could while being responsible enough not to go broke, which would leave everyone in the soup.

We have tried our utmost to offer compensation in terms of licenses in lieu of just missing out on the discount prices. I'd love to give refunds to everyone but then we'd go broke and be out of business and no one would get any quality programming tools or updates for their diesels. And Ross and I would be living in cardboard boxes (well smaller cardboard boxes than we live in now, anyway).

If anyone really thinks they have been hard done by and wants to discuss the upgrade options in greater detail, please feel free to contact me directly at paul@efilive.com.

P.S.

Some good news: With FlashScan V2, the licenses will be configured to only use one license per ECM/TCM combination. :)

Some bad news: we can't retrospectively go back and apply that V1 licenses because V1 does not support licensing multiple controllers on one license :(

So if you do have an oportunity to get extra licenses make sure you allocate them to your new V2 interface, they will be more useful there.

Regards
Paul

I agree 100% - just trying to sort out the logistics of it.
Paul

Paul, I think it would be wise to allow your resellers to transfer licenses from V1 to V2, as shipping costs to/from Australia would be very expensive, and time-consuming.


Guy, thanks for laying out the prices like that....it was very confusing originally.

Ok, one more question, been to EFI site, and it is also clear as mud, but what is V2 gonna give me with one truck, that the V1 which everyone has now and seems to be working fine.

What is my motivation to upgrade ever? Will it become obsolete as the upgrades keep coming?

Sorry, the site is out of date (especially the stuff about V2) and is being updated over the weekend.

EFILive will be releasing "EFILive V8" software mid to late next year. That version of the software is currently being designed to support FlashScan V2 only. It will have many more features and options that are just not possible with FlashScan V1. So I guess you could call it obsolete then, but really it will be no more obsolete then than it is now - it will still do everything then that it can do now. (sounds confusing, I hope you get the idea).

FlashScan v1 will continue to be supported for at least 12 months and probably longer. There will be a number of free updates to the V7 software for V1 and V2 customers over the next 6-8 months.

Regards
Paul

One tiny piece of good news is that V2 will eventually support scanning for OBDI vehicles.

Regards
Paul

:drop_mout :ro) :hug: so how long before us old schoolers get to reak this benefit? will this just be a scanning thing to check codes and so forth or will we be able to tune?
sorry:offtopic: but im just really curious!!!!

The EFILive guys corrected me. I forgot about the fact that they are giving existing V1 Commercial customers two additional free licenses with the V2 upgrade .

V1 Commercial used to be $849.00 An upgrade to V2 in the first 30 days of release is $299.00.

$849.00 + $299.00 = $1148 (minus the value of 2 free licenses valued at $198) = $950. Total of 4 licenses installed in V2.

V1 Commercial is now $549.00. An upgrade with a $549.00 V1 to V2 will cost $299.00 in the first 30 days + $150 (Total $449)

$549.00 + $449.00 = $998.00

Phew, time to start drinking.

:drinking:

Blacky,

I'm quoting this from your web site:
"Customers may upgrade any Personal or Commercial license from FlashScan V1.2 to FlashScan V2.0 for $399*. All PCM licenses will be transferred from your FlashScan V1.2 interface to the new FlashScan V2 interface. You must return your existing FlashScan V1.2 interface to EFILive to be eligible for the FlashScan V2 upgrade price."

How much of this has changed?

TIA.

The $399 is still accurate (although we will discount that to $299 in the first month).
All licenses can be transferred by EFILive. Hopefully we can figure out a way to get the resellers to also be able to perform that task. That will remove the significant shipping costs and time delays associated with returning it to OZ or NZ.
Personal and Commercial customers do not need to return their FlashScan V1 cable to upgrade - they keep it and continue to use it as a spare/backup.
Workshop customers must return their workshop cable. That can be done *after* they receive their V2 cable to prevent any downtime.

Regards
Paul

:drop_mout :ro) :hug: so how long before us old schoolers get to reak this benefit? will this just be a scanning thing to check codes and so forth or will we be able to tune?
sorry:offtopic: but im just really curious!!!!

Just Scanning.

Most (not all) OBDI controllers use EEPROMS (not flash memory) and they are not programmable via the OBDI port. To reprogram them requires removing the chips and having access to a chip burner. EFILive won't be supporting tuning the OBDI vehicles in the forseeable future (and I can see along way into the future on this one if you know what I mean).

However, you will get all the benefits of our state of the art scan tool (which is getting a major facelift and performance boost in EFILive V8) for use with logging/scanning with GM OBDI vehicles.

Regards
Paul

Paul,
I purchased the commercial version on Aug. 13th. Am I eligible for the extra licenses or anything?

Thanks, Steve

The $399 is still accurate (although we will discount that to $299 in the first month).
All licenses can be transferred by EFILive. Hopefully we can figure out a way to get the resellers to also be able to perform that task. That will remove the significant shipping costs and time delays associated with returning it to OZ or NZ.
Personal and Commercial customers do not need to return their FlashScan V1 cable to upgrade - they keep it and continue to use it as a spare/backup.
Workshop customers must return their workshop cable. That can be done *after* they receive their V2 cable to prevent any downtime.

Regards
Paul

So at this point commercial users need to return the V1 to you to get the licenses transferred to V2 if we have extra licenses in V1. Otherwise we have a new V2 with 2 new licenses and our old V1 with however many licenses it has enabled?

Paul,
I purchased the commercial version on Aug. 13th. Am I eligible for the extra licenses or anything?

Thanks, Steve

Yes, because you purchased the Commercial version, you get two extra Licenses if/when you upgrade to V2 - that's 4 in total on your V2 upgrade.

Regards
Paul

So at this point commercial users need to return the V1 to you to get the licenses transferred to V2 if we have extra licenses in V1. Otherwise we have a new V2 with 2 new licenses and our old V1 with however many licenses it has enabled?

I'm still working on a way to allow you to transfer the licenses yourself - that is by far the best option. If I can figure* it out before V2 is released that is what I will do. Failing that, you will need to return it to either EFILive or a reseller nearest you to have them changed over.

I'm still hopeful of getting the first option working....

* "figure it out" means to get around the security designed into V1 which was designed to prevent exactly this type of transfer from occuring. Basically I'm trying to hack the security of our own product - who would've thought I'd ever be doing that.:rolleyes:

Regards
Paul

Why should we thank someone for a service we paid for. The thank you was the purchase price

Nicolas Joseph Cugnot did not have to invent the automobile, but guess what? He did, and How many of you are giving thanks? Heck, most probably thought it was Henry Ford that invented it. (But he was more then one hundred years late.)

Tony, you make it sound like Ross, and Paul did it out of love for us. They did it for one reason. (To make money! And there is nothing wrong with that. it it wasn't because they love you!)

I would like to weigh in on this if I can.........:eek:

Ross and Paul at EFI-LIVE did not have to build a software package for the LB7/LLY trucks, they did not have to support Allison, they did not have to offer DSP2..........but guess what ........ THEY DID.......:ro)

They gave everyone here an opportunity to do it themselves or have someone else do the tuning for them for free or for a price.

They expanded choices for all of us.

Now they have upped the ante and upgraded hardware and a bunch of you have complaints about it..........-:t -:t -:t

How about we do a lot less complaining and a lot more thanking for what we have........:exactly:

I think we all got a deal..........especially when we are all driving trucks worth $40-50K..........:)

JMHO........

I'm still working on a way to allow you to transfer the licenses yourself - that is by far the best option. If I can figure* it out before V2 is released that is what I will do. Failing that, you will need to return it to either EFILive or a reseller nearest you to have them changed over.

I'm still hopeful of getting the first option working....

* "figure it out" means to get around the security designed into V1 which was designed to prevent exactly this type of transfer from occuring. Basically I'm trying to hack the security of our own product - who would've thought I'd ever be doing that.:rolleyes:

Regards
Paul

Either way I'm upgrading. Thanks Paul. You guys :ro)

The EFILive guys corrected me. I forgot about the fact that they are giving existing V1 Commercial customers two additional free licenses with the V2 upgrade .

V1 Commercial used to be $849.00 An upgrade to V2 in the first 30 days of release is $299.00.

$849.00 + $299.00 = $1148 (minus the value of 2 free licenses valued at $198) = $950. Total of 4 licenses installed in V2.

V1 Commercial is now $549.00. An upgrade with a $549.00 V1 to V2 will cost $299.00 in the first 30 days + $150 (Total $449)

$549.00 + $449.00 = $998.00

Phew, time to start drinking.

:drinking:
I was going to correct you on the price, but don't have to now.
Thanks for clearing things up.

So if I understand it correctly. I will get 4 new licenses with my Commercial V-1.2 upgrade to V-2, right? And that will be good for 4 vehicles, due to the fact that I will not need to use a license for the TCM, right again?

If this is correct, then I apologize for the harsh words.

Why Would I Wanna Buy Another Product That I Absolutely Cannt Operate :eek: :rolleyes: :D

I was going to correct you on the price, but don't have to now.
Thanks for clearing things up.

So if I understand it correctly. I will get 4 new licenses with my Commercial V-1.2 upgrade to V-2, right? And that will be good for 4 vehicles, due to the fact that I will not need to use a license for the TCM, right again?

If this is correct, then I apologize for the harsh words.

Yes, that is correct. In addition to the 4 licenses, if you purchased the commercial version of EFILive in in the last month (Aug 18 2006 - Sep 17 2006) you'll get another 3, making a total of 7 Licenses.

P.S. No need to apologise for the harsh words. Everone has a right to say what they think. If folks don't like something about EFILive (product, pricing or anything) if they don't speak up it won't get changed/fixed.

Regards
Paul

Why Would I Wanna Buy Another Product That I Absolutely Cannt Operate :eek: :rolleyes: :D

I'm sure you will have no trouble figuring it out. After all, you figured out the whole caps lock thing. :D

So, if I own one (1) truck, how many "licenses" do I need? No, I'm not going to tune my neighbor's or friends' trucks, so multiple licenses do nothing for me unless it will also tune my wife's '01 5.3L Tahoe... I don't think it will.

I see no future new truck purchases, so would V1 suit me just fine with my '05 LLY?

Just when I'm about to take the plunge, this comes along. :confused:

With V1 you'll need two PCM licenses if you have an allison (one for the engine and one for the Allison).
With V2 you can combine the engine and trans onto one VIN License.

Yes, EFILive can tune your Wife's Taho if it uses Operating System 12208322 which I think it does. PM me the VIN and I'll check for sure.

Regards
Paul

I just ordered V1. Say I flash both my ECM & TCM, using both licenses (with the V1 cable). What happens if/when it becomes possible to move the licenses from the V1 cable to the V2? Do they get changed from modue licenses to VIN licenses, freeing one up? I assume that the VIN license only applies to one pair of modules, so if I where to tune a second ECM and TCM (for whatever reason), that module pair would use another license?

Thanks

I'm sure you will have no trouble figuring it out. After all, you figured out the whole caps lock thing. :D

And it took him just 3 years:ro)

I just ordered V1. Say I flash both my ECM & TCM, using both licenses (with the V1 cable). What happens if/when it becomes possible to move the licenses from the V1 cable to the V2? Do they get changed from modue licenses to VIN licenses, freeing one up? I assume that the VIN license only applies to one pair of modules, so if I where to tune a second ECM and TCM (for whatever reason), that module pair would use another license?

Thanks

That's a very good questionand one that I had not considered until you brought it up. It makes sense to do what you suggest, but I'm not sure if it is possible. When I figure it out I'll post back here with the "results". If you haven't heard back from me in a week - send me a PM to remind me.

Regards
Paul

LOL...stump the efi live guys.

LOL...stump the efi live guys.

The older I get, the easier it is!

i love you guys (in a non-queer way)

in a non gay sorta way, sheep humper :sheephump