: What's the most affordable type/brand of building?
flyin99 09-10-2006, 03:14 PM Way too many options out here........Mortons, Walters, Olympia,Miracle Truss etc. .....what are you guys building or already have?
Morton priced me a 36'x72'x12' for $71,000 in August.........does that sound about right? I had some contractors tell me they could stick build it for 50K............It's driving me crazy on which direction to take here.........
2fast2 09-11-2006, 12:30 PM Not too sure about that price, except that it is more than double what I paid for a 48 by 60 by 12 (13.5 center) not including concrete and site prep. Mine isn't insulated. I had mine done 3 years ago this November.
Morton did a really nice job with mine, but I can't really comment on the other ones. Every time I look at somebody's metal building (now that I own one) I notice how mine seems better built... but maybe they saved a lot of money in the process.
Plus, material costs have gone way up. And Morton is like the Chinese menu, you just keep adding items and the price goes up.
Consider sky lites if you go Morton. I'm really glad I did. I put them only on one side of the roof ridge, so I don't see them from the house, but they really help with interior light and I don't need lights switched on during the day for most projects.
2fast2 09-11-2006, 12:33 PM BTW, find a contractor that will stick build you a building that size and have it done in less than 2 weeks.
And find one that will give you the warranties Morton offers.
For me, local contractors were out of the question due to my time constraints. My Morton experience went great.
YMMV.
AndrewFessler 09-11-2006, 12:54 PM I built mine myself and when done, should have about $12-14k in it.
30x56x12
3 - 10x10 overhead doors
1 - walk door
5" - 4,000 PSI cement (in two weeks)
no windows
shingled roof
1' eaves and sofit.
100 amp service
http://duramax.onlinedesk.net/photos/index.php?album=%2Fpole-barn%2F&image=IMG_3149.JPG
2fast2 09-11-2006, 04:53 PM I put a 200 amp service in mine, because it had to be a separate service from the house due to distance. There was no difference in charge for a 100amp or 200 amp service except for the bigger panel box.
Can't have too much power, whether truck or electrical!
7m34life 10-01-2006, 07:15 PM I just had a 40 X 80 with H beam red iron put up for $70k with concrete.
The same building with 6in perlin would have cost us around $60k.
jmg343 10-02-2006, 12:46 AM I built mine myself and when done, should have about $12-14k in it.
30x56x12
3 - 10x10 overhead doors
1 - walk door
5" - 4,000 PSI cement (in two weeks)
no windows
shingled roof
1' eaves and sofit.
100 amp service
http://duramax.onlinedesk.net/photos/index.php?album=%2Fpole-barn%2F&image=IMG_3149.JPG
Great job! Thats a sweet looking shop!
_nar_ 10-02-2006, 01:12 AM andrewfessler-Real nice. Took lots of pictures too, neat to see it go up. Did you just figure out what you'd need and order it, or was that a building kit?
AndrewFessler 10-02-2006, 11:05 AM The basic structure is a kit from http://www.carterlumber.com/ .
http://www.carterlumber.com/Content/docs/0262_006.pdf
I priced what I wanted from 3 different lumberyards (not Lowes or HomeDepot) and then compared the item list to see how close they were. (6x6s for corners and 4x6 for remaining posts.)
Once I picked the yard, I got the plans they used to calculate what materials were needed. I then made what changes I wanted from that plan, added my 3 10x10 doors, the headers, extra posts needed for them, and then the materials needed to frame in some windows I already had. I double checked their calculations and found a number of mistakes.
I then made changes on my own to door placement and figured out where I wanted my posts. I did make a minor mistake in that in that my doors will be 10x10 but the actual opening will be 9'x9" wide because I forgot to take into account that I was going to put a 2x6 against each post to protect it.
The height is shortened too because the guy who was helping me measure for the height of the doors didnt correctly add the thickness of the cemement to the measurement before marking for the door header. :( I have thought about redoing it, but then I'd have to do a lot more work of tearing out the door frame and re-cutting the top metal over the doors.
_nar_ 10-02-2006, 10:42 PM There's always a couple little things like that you forget. Turned out pretty nice though...
hdroadkingc 10-05-2006, 07:57 PM Try Hansen Pole buildings. I bought there kit and put it put myself. Its a 30x60x18 insulated. I will post pic tomorrow.
Dmax Fan 10-07-2006, 06:18 PM Morton is the best I have seen. We have them on the farm.
Dmax Tim 10-09-2006, 08:15 PM I'm pricing 30X60X14 for my dad right now and the kits prices vary $3000.
I also priced a 60X104X14 w/ 12' leanto on one whole side for an enclosed arena/ horse stalls and the kit price was $31,000.
We've got a Walter and a K steel building too.
duramax 2001 10-11-2006, 11:04 AM Check with your local tax accessor. I went with a Pole style building because the "stick" build garage style was going to be considered a different tax code and cost almost double the taxes.
Steel frame building was even more as they considered it commercial....
Something to atleast consider before you buy...:think:
hdroadkingc 10-12-2006, 01:33 PM Here are the pictures of my shop. It is a Hansen Pole building. 30x60x18.
www.hansenpolebuildings.com
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AndrewFessler 10-12-2006, 02:52 PM [quote=hdroadkingc;1348352;]Here are the pictures of my shop. It is a Hanson Pole building. 30x60x18.
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That is a nice tall building too. How much did the insulation cost you?
I am now thinking of at least putting styrofoam insulation on my west wall (the weather comes from the west).
FF_Opie 10-12-2006, 03:55 PM I don't know about your area but Morton and Astro have about a 10% discount in the winter due to the weather slowing down business. If I ever do another building that will be what I do. Last one I did was a Menards building, it is fine but I paid a guy to put it up. That took away from the savings I could of had. They good thing about those guys is it gets put up so quickly.
hdroadkingc 10-12-2006, 03:57 PM I got the wall insulation from Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reflective-Insulation-Vapor-Barrier-Easy-Install-SAVE_W0QQitemZ330038244249QQihZ014QQcategoryZ63894 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
_nar_ 10-12-2006, 11:21 PM That's one of the nicest wooden built buildings I've seen. :thumb:
Dmax Tim 10-14-2006, 07:51 PM I am now thinking of at least putting styrofoam insulation on my west wall (the weather comes from the west).
PM me and I'll give u the number of a shop that has good price on foam, and cut to size.
AndrewFessler 10-14-2006, 09:24 PM I got the wall insulation from Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Reflective-Insulation-Vapor-Barrier-Easy-Install-SAVE_W0QQitemZ330038244249QQihZ014QQcategoryZ63894 QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Did you install it before you put your siding up?
I wont be able to do mine that way if I use this stuff.
Price seems reasonable.
hdroadkingc 10-15-2006, 12:38 AM Yes. Just tacked it to the purlins and put the siding over it. If you already have the siding up, you may not be able to use it. You may try that foam insulation. My boss had it done to a pole building he has and he was happy with it.
6.6 Dmax 10-18-2006, 07:30 PM Just had a 50X100 64 metals building put up with waynes skirt and 2 12x12 overheads and a 30' HiFold door put in.....concreted with drains and restrooms office and everything...we have around 75K in it...but man is it awsome looking.
bugthug 10-18-2006, 09:22 PM I just had a 30x48x12 pole building built. it has 2 10x10 overhead doors ,all poles are 6x6 and the trusses are on 3 foot centers. It has 1 foot overhang on all sides and seemless gutters and it was about 18,000.00.
AndrewFessler 10-19-2006, 09:53 AM I just had a 30x48x12 pole building built. it has 2 10x10 overhead doors ,all poles are 6x6 and the trusses are on 3 foot centers. It has 1 foot overhang on all sides and seemless gutters and it was about 18,000.00.
Does that price include cement? What type of roof? Shingled or metal?
Ruben Z 10-19-2006, 10:35 AM Jesus for what you guys are talking about, all those prices seem way to high. Is everything just that much more expensive up North?
Idle_Chatter 10-19-2006, 11:53 AM I just put a deposit down on an engineered steel house "kit" from Heritage Buildings in N. Little Rock. 1700 sq ft. with an attached garage and the complete dry-in kit is being manufactured in Salt Lake City for delivery in about 8 weeks ($41K)
http://www.heritagebuildings.com/steel_homes/springhill/1a.asp
bugthug 10-19-2006, 08:36 PM My Roof and sides are metal 45 year warranty. The price is without concrete. The builder is going to pour and finish it for me next spring for me for 1200.00. I am going with 4000 psi with fiber mesh and that is 84 a yard need almost 25 yards.
I went with a 200 amp service. Bought a 1000 foot spool of 12/2 last night for 200.00.
I was gonna go with the radient heat in the floor then I remembered I drive chevys so I wont be laying under them so I went with forced hot air.
2fast2 10-19-2006, 10:04 PM 12/2 is twice that here, for a thousand foot spool. Dang. Maybe I should road trip up to PA and load up for myself and my electrician buddy!
7m34life 10-20-2006, 07:11 AM My Roof and sides are metal 45 year warranty. The price is without concrete. The builder is going to pour and finish it for me next spring for me for 1200.00. I am going with 4000 psi with fiber mesh and that is 84 a yard need almost 25 yards.
I went with a 200 amp service. Bought a 1000 foot spool of 12/2 last night for 200.00.
I was gonna go with the radient heat in the floor then I remembered I drive chevys so I wont be laying under them so I went with forced hot air.
So all in all you will have 3300 in your concrete. That's not too bad.
kklonghorns 10-30-2006, 03:42 PM I have seen some of those isulated building panels that work really nice.They are very strong, and will pay for them selves in energy savings in a very short time. They are also fast and easy to build.
As for Morten I have not been to impressed with their work.
kklonghorns 10-30-2006, 03:43 PM My Roof and sides are metal 45 year warranty. The price is without concrete. The builder is going to pour and finish it for me next spring for me for 1200.00. I am going with 4000 psi with fiber mesh and that is 84 a yard need almost 25 yards.
I went with a 200 amp service. Bought a 1000 foot spool of 12/2 last night for 200.00.
I was gonna go with the radient heat in the floor then I remembered I drive chevys so I wont be laying under them so I went with forced hot air.
who is doing your building?
Dmax Tim 11-01-2006, 10:19 PM Jesus for what you guys are talking about, all those prices seem way to high. Is everything just that much more expensive up North?
we've also got a little higher snow load on our trusses than down south.
):h
Also a lot of our lumber comes from down there too.
I can buy all the materials for a 30X60X14 pole barn, 12X12 opening, no door, painted metal, 6X6 posts for $7300.
fastjohnny 11-07-2006, 07:53 PM DMax Tim, where are you buying?
duramaximizer 11-14-2006, 01:09 AM Oh .... Morton Buildings rock........... We have had one since 91.... it still looks like new. We had to replace a piece of steel do to a snowmobile trailer flying into it during a wind storm, and the new piece of steel matched the 10 year old piece exactly when the fly crap was taken into consideration.
Mortons rock there build qualty, materials, and efficency seem 1st rate. Dad said if he ever had to do it again, or put on an addition, (like we have talked about) he would have morton come back and do it.
they may or may not be the most affordable, but they did an awesome job on ours and I would highly recomend them to anyone.
kklonghorns 11-14-2006, 06:20 PM Ive seen two many of their rooves collapse under snow becuse they only use half the trusses they should and half the roof perlins which also means their metal only gets half as many screws as it needs..... o wait they are still stuck in the 18'th century as they still nail their steel fast.
duramaximizer 11-14-2006, 11:45 PM Well, we don't get a ton of snow, and the snow we do get falls off because of the pitch of the roof. Also our building is heated all year round. Our steel hasn't fallen off yet, it is still tight to the building, and it still hasn't faded since 91. Too bad our house has had to have a roof and sideing put on it since then. BTW I saw an add where they were using stainless steel screws in the last year or 2.
How many trusses should be in a 60 foot long building, and I can tell you how many ours has.
hdroadkingc 11-15-2006, 11:48 AM Well, we don't get a ton of snow, and the snow we do get falls off because of the pitch of the roof. Also our building is heated all year round. Our steel hasn't fallen off yet, it is still tight to the building, and it still hasn't faded since 91. Too bad our house has had to have a roof and sideing put on it since then. BTW I saw an add where they were using stainless steel screws in the last year or 2.
How many trusses should be in a 60 foot long building, and I can tell you how many ours has.
How many. I have a hansen pole building and I have 6 trusses in a 60' long building but they are doubled trusses.
2fast2 11-16-2006, 09:57 AM Wow.
I guess kklonghorns doesn't have much regard for Morton. I am VERY happy with mine. Build quality is better than any other similar buildings I have seen. The materials, construction quality, timeliness of building erection (oops probably shouldn't use that word, but that is the word) and warranty all made me go with Morton, and happy I did.
And I'd go back to them first and wouldn't look elsewhere unless I had a bad feeling or sticker shock, or some similar reason.
I'm with duramaximizer, Morton rocks.
kklonghorns 11-30-2006, 04:56 PM Well, we don't get a ton of snow, and the snow we do get falls off because of the pitch of the roof. Also our building is heated all year round. Our steel hasn't fallen off yet, it is still tight to the building, and it still hasn't faded since 91. Too bad our house has had to have a roof and sideing put on it since then. BTW I saw an add where they were using stainless steel screws in the last year or 2.
How many trusses should be in a 60 foot long building, and I can tell you how many ours has.
a 60 ft. building should have 16 trusses and if it has an attic it should have 32.
hdroadkingc 11-30-2006, 09:44 PM a 60 ft. building should have 16 trusses and if it has an attic it should have 32.
That would depend on how the building is engineered.
kklonghorns 12-24-2006, 02:42 PM I beleive in no less than the best.
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