First, let me say that Greg L really puts together a super nice filter package. He pays a lot of attention to detail, and his service is great.


I'm getting ready to install my frame mounted filter kit this weekend, and am debating on the rock guard. There is nothing wrong with it...it just seems as if the filter would be easier to see and service without the guard. Greg makes the kit so that the guard is an optional part of the installation. On previous posts, I saw that a few were concerned about rocks hitting the filter bowl, but it sure seems unlikly to me. The filter assembly is well protected by the frame rails. Has anyone had problems with filter damage from items thrown by tires?

I've had my filter mounted for a year now, and I have no stone guard, been through all the back roads at deer camp and the federal land back roads and have had no problems with the filter getting damaged. I think the stone guard is a nice touch but not a necessary.

My Stanadyne FM100 pre filter (http://community.webshots.com/photo/77018086/78004387qBpOPB) is frame mounted and it's been through two upstate NY winters. I also added the see through bowl option (http://www.reliableindustries.com/inv/stan/partinfo.php?search_for=29899). I've thought about making a guard but so far I haven't had any problems without it.
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I have the add-on filter from racor (RK32313 kit made by racor) - the guard that they offer is very heavy duty and doesn't restrict viewing or servicing of the filter itself.

I purchased mine from oregon fuel injection (http://www.oregonfuelinjection.com). They have a pdf on their website that shows a pic of this guard.

Whether you go with this filter kit or Greg's the guard seems like pretty cheap insurance - the racor one is pretty burly and is only $36.

- jeff

I put the actual Racor guard on mine and I don't have a problem visualizing the bowl either. Mine doesn't get taken into real bad off road, but I figure it's cheap insurance, same as the WIF sensor and heater in it.

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Oregon fuel injection has free shipping for orders over $250. The racor fuel filter kit is over that amount...


-jeff

They might have free shipping but you still have to buy the rock guard for $36. My kit is $295 with rock guard and if you don't want it I will knock off $15.


The rock guard was added because I had several request for one.





Greg

I went with the rock guard for extra assurance too. Purchased mine from:


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2004 GMC 2500HD Ext. Cab, Long Box ,Duramax (LB7)/Allison; GMC bed liner;Air Lift Super Duty air bags; Michelin LT265/75-R16 LTX M/S ; Luverne Running boards; Bilstein shocks; Delvac 1300; Isspro gauges; Racor frame mount fuel pre-filter.


Towing a 2004 Everest 291L 5<SUP>th wheel</SUP>

Thanks for the replies. Greg's rock guard is very similar to Racor's, and is pretty heavy guage metal. I'll probably put it on for the simple reason that VaderDmax mentioned. Racor's clear bowl seems very tough to me, and I suspect it would take a pretty good blow with a rock to damage it.

Greg, do you sell a filter bowl wrench that will fit the RK32313 kit?


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Mike,


I got my filter wrench from Greg. It's made by Racor and is set up on one end for the bowl, and the other end loolks like it's for the WIF sensor on the OEM filter.

Zeeb,


Thanks. I'll be ordering one from Greg...

On a kinda related topic, how hard was it to install this filter with the WIF and heater?

Should not take more than and hour to do. Includes instructions with color pictures for the wire-ring.





Greg

Just so you guys can use a 'heavy duty' rock guard as a comparison, I want to attach what my dad built for his '03 Dmax. His age old addage is "if bad sh!t is gonna happen, its gonna happen to me, and usually a long ways from home!" He hounted his in the 'Nicktane spot' . He cut his line so its in the pre-OEM configuration. Yes its /14 and 3/8 plate steel and fully covered so that nothing can touch the filter without dropping the hinged box. "She aint so pretty for looks, but she's hell for stout!"





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Thanks LanduytG, with hearing all these horor stories of injector problems it is something on my to-do list...

On a kinda related topic, how hard was it to install this filter with the WIF and heater?

It's a pretty easy job. My only problem was that there were more pink wires on my truck than in the picture in the directions to hook up the heater, so it was just a little time consuming figuring out exactly which wire to hook into. No big deal, though. It is a very nice kit.

BTW, the small end of the filter wrench does NOT fit the OEM WIF sensor.

BTW, the small end of the filter wrench does NOT fit the OEM WIF sensor.


I hadn't tried it, but as I said, it looked like that might be what it was for. Do you know what the small end is for?

BTW, the small end of the filter wrench does NOT fit the OEM WIF sensor.


I hadn't tried it, but as I said, it looked like that might be what it was for. Do you know what the small end is for?

I assumed that is what it was for also, but when I changed my OEM fuel filter yesterday, I tried it & it didn't fit. I imagine that it fits some other type of Racor filter or sensor.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Confused.gif

deadfurrow,


thanks for the info, I wasn't sure what was involved with it. Does it require a lift pump? I keep reading about them and not sure if/why it is being used.

The Racor does not need a lift pump.

Greg

My only problem was that there were more pink wires on my truck than in the picture in the directions to hook up the heater, so it was just a little time consuming figuring out exactly which wire to hook into. No big deal, though.


I had the same problem, and to this day, I am still not positive I picked the correct wire. What did you do to determine which wire was the correct one.

Thanks Greg,


Not to sound totally stupid but why does others require one and why would someone choose one that does? I would think less to break w/o the pump.

My only problem was that there were more pink wires on my truck than in the picture in the directions to hook up the heater, so it was just a little time consuming figuring out exactly which wire to hook into. No big deal, though.


I had the same problem, and to this day, I am still not positive I picked the correct wire. What did you do to determine which wire was the correct one.





I had the same pink wire confusion. Took a bit more than the hour or so Greg talks about, but when you're doing something for the first time and don't want to mess up a spendy truck, well...


Any way, I posted some pics of my install including one of the UHFP and the pink wires in question. As well as which ones to use. It's about the 7th post on this thread:


http://dieselplace.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7365&amp;KW=Racor+install

My only problem was that there were more pink wires on my truck than in the picture in the directions to hook up the heater, so it was just a little time consuming figuring out exactly which wire to hook into. No big deal, though.


I had the same problem, and to this day, I am still not positive I picked the correct wire. What did you do to determine which wire was the correct one.

If I remember correctly, & I think Zeeb mentions it in his link above, the wire to tap into is a smaller guage than the other pink wires. After studying the picture & comparing it to some of the larger wires in that wiring loom, + the location of the wire in the loom, I'm 99.9% sure I got the right one.http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Ermm.gif It hasn't been below 40 degrees here since I installed it, so I don't even know how I could test it to see if I got the correct wire. The filter didn't seem warm when I checked it on a cool morning, so I don't think the heater is constantly on.

My only problem was that there were more pink wires on my truck than in the picture in the directions to hook up the heater, so it was just a little time consuming figuring out exactly which wire to hook into. No big deal, though.


Thanks for all the comments on this. I'd be very interested in getting a schematic of the wiring harness that Greg and Racor use. Greg, do you have one that you could post? I'd prefer to have my heater on a toggle switch that I can control. I believe that otherwise, it runs anytime its below 30-40 degrees. Not a big deal, but it will draw around 20 amps, and if its not needed, I'd just as soon turn it off.


I installed everything but the wiring harness yesterday. I'd give Greg's kit a full thumbs up! http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/smileys/Thumbs Up.gif The kit is very well thought out. I took my time, and it took around 2.5 hours. For those thinking about it, here are a few tips that worked good for me:


1. Run the fuel tank down towards empty. Doing that and running the front of the truck on ramps allowed me to lose only about 1/2 cup of fuel when I cut the line. I was ready for a bath, but only a very small amount came out.


2. I protected the frame rail rust inhibitor (from fuel) by putting a garbage bag in place between the frame rail and fuel line. That way when the fuel came out, the bag protected the frame rails.


3. The filter bracket was touching the metal brake line that runs to the rear axle along the top of the frame rail. I was able to gently form the brake line down where the filter bracket was installed so that nothing rubs.


4. Greg has a nice powder coat finish on the brackets. I wanted to match the frame rails, so I also sprayed them with 3m undercoating. It matched the OEM wax very well.


5. Everybody has their own opinion on valves, but I installed a ball valve on the input of the filter. I think this will help if I change it with a full tank.


6. Greg provides hoses that fit over the OEM steel line perfectly. The Racor hose he provides slides over the steel line in a snug way that is just right.


7. Finally, I pre-filled the filter before installing it. I did not have to any other air bleeding. I started the truck, and it loped one time, and that was it!


I'm sure its in my head, but the truck seems to run smoother. Either way, I'm glad I put the filter on.

Should not take more than and hour to do. Includes instructions with color pictures for the wire-ring.





Greg





Greg,


Can you tell me if this is needed? I would like to get it for added benefit. Do you use it with your stock filter?

Not sure how how to post a pdf. If someone can tell me I will post them.





Greg

I can host it for you if you can not upload it to the DP.

Greg wrote: Not sure how how to post a pdf. If someone can tell me I will post them





Put the PDF file on your server that you run your business from. Then post a link to the file in the post here.

I forgot that I already had the install instructions on my server. So here is a link to them.

Frame Mounted Racor Fuel Filter Installation Instructions (http://www.lubespecialist.com/gmracor.PDF)

I have circled the pink wire in the opicture that you hook up too. If you flip the fuse block up you will see what is in the picture.

GregEdited by: LanduytG

Greg...thanks for posting the instructions. Do you happen to have a diagram for the wiring harness itself? I'd like to add a switch to the heater circuit, and having a schematic or drawing of the pin outs of the harness would make it easier.


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Roegs
Sorry but I don't, if you give me a call though I can help you out.
Greg

Greg,


At what temp does the heater come on--I am assuming there is an approximate temp at which it is set.


BTW: I installed the kit and plumbed it right after the CAT kit--did not cut any lines--works great.

Comes on around 35*.

Greg

Also installed Greg's filter kit -- excellent package and service. Thanks Greg!


On the "which pink wires" question, I seem to remember that there's a legend on the fuse block that indicates "HTR" or something like that for the proper set of pink wires--I don't remember seeing 2 sets of them, but the legend should confirm that you're at the right set. Also, someone eariler asked how you can tell you got the right ones--the installation instructions tell you to test for voltage across the heater connector. You got volts you got it right!