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Old 01-14-2011, 01:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Axle Wrap- Traction bars or anti wrap/ Torque arm?

I need some help on deciding which one is better for my application. I need to fix my axle wrap problem. In the sand/snow It gets real bad some times. I hate having to stop and try again. Right now the truck has 2.5 block and the over loads on in the rear. When I install my Deaver springs I will be adding some anti wrap device.

I am leaning towards the Torque arm, Kinda like the one WFO sells.
http://www.wfoconcepts.com/cr/Torque-Arms/4140/3857

I like how they can be tucked up out of the way. Traction bars seem to hangs down low. Only Con I can come up with for the Torque arm is that it is not bolt on.

Any thought or experiences with either one of these? I see more people on here running traction bars than anything else. Are they more for straight line go fast?
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I have traction bars on my truck and deavers. They do work well and I built them myself for cheap. I have had my eye on the WFO Torque Arms for a while now though. I can't seem to find any pictures of one installed on a 2500hd to see how they look. I like the fact that there is a shackle up front to eliminate binding because I do get some binding with my setup. Hopefully someone will chime in that has WFO's torque arms and give us some more info.
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Yeah, I can see the binding of traction bars. I guess I should point out that I'm looking for off road performance.
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Ive built something jsut like the WFO bar for my rock crawler and it works well in that application but closer you can welded it to the center of the diff, the better. in order to do that with WFO setup, your gunna have to triangulate some tubing across the frame for the shackle to mount to. It would take a decent amount of fab work to get setup right and runnin in a weekend.

I just got all my parts here to build a set of traction bars that connect to the u-bolt plate on the axle and then run up and connect to the frame. it uses johnny joints and derlin bushings to keep wear to a very small minimum as well as give you good flex without binding/creaking. Im a avid off roader in my truck and am not worried about these bars off road at all. Im more worried about my t-bar drop bracket than anything
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I think I have seen these before. Could you post some pics? Will they interfere if you want to do an airbag setup?
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I think I have seen these before. Could you post some pics? Will they interfere if you want to do an airbag setup?
Shoot me your email and ill send some pics. The ones i built wont interfer with an airbag setup
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Split spring pack take out overloads reuse stock spgs. Install Caltracs with the air bags slightly inflated with QA1 adjusted shocks-costly part- see if that smile comes on then. It's the shocks and Caltracs make it arrow straight for a low cost fix. Did it works real nice. Just watch the Caltracs in rocks of course but you did say sand and snow so....
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I use caltracs with air bags it works great.My axle wrap was terrible, I also destroyed 3 drivelines.The caltracs solved all my problems plus the hook up is unreal.
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Split spring pack take out overloads reuse stock spgs. Install Caltracs with the air bags slightly inflated with QA1 adjusted shocks-costly part- see if that smile comes on then. It's the shocks and Caltracs make it arrow straight for a low cost fix. Did it works real nice. Just watch the Caltracs in rocks of course but you did say sand and snow so....

I did just say snow/sand. They still have to be atleast some what up out of the way. I have plenty to worry about on the bottom of this thing. T bars need to be the least of it.

That does sound like a good setup. I need to get some dealers and some traction aid. Shocks other than bilstiens are next on the list when I do new kings up front. I should take out the overloads right now to get me by but I don't know if it will help much since I have blocks in there also. Need to start with some new springs as a foundation and build from that.
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